Provoking the crowd.

[Vegas Claret]

Absolutely ridiculous from the referee. The only think the player did was confront the idiot who pushed him.

Thankfully the bloke who aimed a pie at an Everton player when we played there recently missed although the pie did land on the pitch. I believe he was picked up on CCTV.

There is no justification for the player responding in the way some do but I don’t think fans can be aggrieved when they are dishing it out.

I've always wondered why some people believe that because they are in a footy ground they can do whatever they want without fear of reprisal. I hope the powers that be make examples of these idiots, long ruined the game for me.

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It does suggest that your "I wouldn't get away with it" is highly inaccurate though.

I doubt I would get away with it if my actions were witnessed by thousands of people, and on national TV... So pretty accurate I would suggest
Many get away with the same thing because they are not witnessed, or no evidence can be found, which isn't the case in the one specific case being discussed

[aggi]

I doubt I would get away with it if my actions were witnessed by thousands of people, and on national TV... So pretty accurate I would suggest
Many get away with the same thing because they are not witnessed, or no evidence can be found, which isn't the case in the one specific case being discussed

Fair point. Whenever TV cameras accidentally happen on gesticulating fans everyone knows that those fans are always arrested. It's a little known fact that the whole Arsenal away end was arrested on this day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liV3LwrLOZU

[Backofthenet]

Fair point. Whenever TV cameras accidentally happen on gesticulating fans everyone knows that those fans are always arrested. It's a little known fact that the whole Arsenal away end was arrested on this day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liV3LwrLOZU

If you read Rileybobs comments at post 4, which is what I've based my comments on, if I was stood on the pitch doing the self same thing towards those arsenal fans, what do you suggest would happen to me?

[Devils_Advocate]

If you read Rileybobs comments at post 4, which is what I've based my comments on, if I was stood on the pitch doing the self same thing towards those arsenal fans, what do you suggest would happen to me?

If you ran on the pitch and did a sliding tackle on Zaha you'd get arrested so by your logic you'd expect Ben Mee to get arrested for doing the same thing.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Rightly or wrongly fans are there to enjoy themselves and can have a few pints before the game. They could easily be in an “easily provoked” state and if a player looks at them and encourages them onto the pitch, banning that fan for life and maybe jailing them is highly unfortunate if it was the player who provoked it. Yes the player may have cause, but they are highly paid professionals, they have to rise above it.

So I’m in the “Zaha has to be sent off for it” camp. Or where does it end?

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If you ran on the pitch and did a sliding tackle on Zaha you'd get arrested so by your logic you'd expect Ben Mee to get arrested for doing the same thing.

If it was a fair tackle, other than being on the pitch, arrested for what?

[Devils_Advocate]

If it was a fair tackle, other than being on the pitch, arrested for what?

Potentially assault if you put in this kind of tackle and the "being on the pitch" is the operative word.



Ive seen lots of fans gesture at opposition fans in the way Zaha did directly in front of police and not been arrested. Its the "on the pitch" bit which is making the difference between you, Zaha or Tarks making his tackle

[aggi]

If you read Rileybobs comments at post 4, which is what I've based my comments on, if I was stood on the pitch doing the self same thing towards those arsenal fans, what do you suggest would happen to me?

Well you'd be attested as it's an offence for fans to go on the pitch.

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Potentially assault if you put in this kind of tackle and the "being on the pitch" is the operative word.



Ive seen lots of fans gesture at opposition fans in the way Zaha did directly in front of police and not been arrested. Its the "on the pitch" bit which is making the difference between you, Zaha or Tarks making his tackle

I said fair, tackle.... Just the ball

[Backofthenet]

Well you'd be attested as it's an offence for fans to go on the pitch.

I don't doubt that... But threatening behaviour as well

Zaha is legally on the pitch, so sec 5 POA I would suggest

[Devils_Advocate]

I said fair, tackle.... Just the ball

Yes but by your logic you would expect Tarks to be arrested for this tackle because you would get arrested if you ran on the pitch and did it.

***spoiler alert*** Tarks didnt get arrested

[aggi]

I don't doubt that... But threatening behaviour as well

Zaha is legally on the pitch, so sec 5 POA I would suggest

This seems to have ended in something of a dilemma. It doesn't count if it's fans doing it in the stands (I'm not really sure why) and obviously it can't be anything but players doing it on the pitch so you've basically got a proposition that can never be proven.

[Backofthenet]

This seems to have ended in something of a dilemma. It doesn't count if it's fans doing it in the stands (I'm not really sure why) and obviously it can't be anything but players doing it on the pitch so you've basically got a proposition that can never be proven.

I don't think I've said it doesn't count if fans do it
The rest of your post I don't understand, sorry.