January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[NewClaret]

No idea what their bid was, however surely we'd be better offloading some fringe players to generate funds, and free up wages to go towards any potential incomings.

Pope as 1st choice, and Hennessey as deputy should be ample to see the season out for us.

Say Hennessy got injured though, I wouldn’t fancy seeing the season out with no back up keeper

[tiger76]

Say Hennessy got injured though, I wouldn’t fancy seeing the season out with no back up keeper

Yes It's probably because it's a keeper, and that's the one area where you need decent cover, especially with the prospect of Covid lurking, I'd definitely consider selling Norris in the summer, particularly if we retain our PL status, he's unlikely to feature in our 1st team again, and he's only got a year remaining on his contract, depends a lot on whether we plan on bringing BPF back into the reckoning. when his loan stint at Sheff Wed ends.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Good god, Pulisic.

Lock the bloody thread someone.

[Zom Zom]

Good god, Pulisic.

Lock the bloody thread someone.

[boatshed bill]

No idea what their bid was, however surely we'd be better offloading some fringe players to generate funds, and free up wages to go towards any potential incomings.

Only a good idea if we can recall BPF in this window.

[NewClaret]

Only a good idea if we can recall BPF in this window.

I’d leave him there. Then next season, depending on how we get on, loan him to a Championship team to get more game time. I think there’s something there, but he needs experience.

[boatshed bill]

I’d leave him there. Then next season, depending on how we get on, loan him to a Championship team to get more game time. I think there’s something there, but he needs experience.

My thoughts entirely.
So we don't sell Norris.

[Petersa]

What is Waller like..he seems to play regularly for the U23s, havent seen him but if he is to have a chance as a pro then he needs a chance even as third choice.
On the flipside of that though I dont understand why Norris or Hennessy dont play ocaisionally for the 23s as an overage player to keep them match sharp

[ClaretMov]

I’d leave him there. Then next season, depending on how we get on, loan him to a Championship team to get more game time. I think there’s something there, but he needs experience.

We will probably need him ourselves next season in the championship if we get relegated and Pope is sold

[Targetman]

We will probably need him ourselves next season in the championship if we get relegated and Pope is sold

Or if Pope is crossing the road and gets knocked down by a car?

[Newcastleclaret93]

We will probably need him ourselves next season in the championship if we get relegated and Pope is sold

Very good point. You would like to think BPF would be starting for us next season if we are relegated

[NewClaret]

We will probably need him ourselves next season in the championship if we get relegated and Pope is sold

There’s a few on here who seem to think he won’t make it as a Prem GK. It’s such a hard position to play, there’s no guarantees but I think the potential is there with the right development.

I’m certain he’d make a very good Championship ‘keeper though. While I’d like to think we can sign some Prem ready players this window, we may be restricted to signing the likes of Hill, Vaughan, Neil, etc and having a good selection of the best young players out on loan, developing their game would be a massive step forward for us and protection against any relegation in future, where we’d undoubtedly lose players.

[MACCA]

Very good point. You would like to think BPF would be starting for us next season if we are relegated

You wouldn't like to think, I'd prefer Hennessy on what little I've seen of them both.

With the rebuild that would happen a solid experienced GK would be hugely beneficial to potentially 2 or 3 new lads in the back line.

[MACCA]

We need more info from Ben Wicks on these 2 players he's been informed we are signing, or at least someone else to mention their names so he can add an " hhmm interesting" comment without actually telling us the names and breaking his sources trust.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You wouldn't like to think, I'd prefer Hennessy on what little I've seen of them both.

With the rebuild that would happen a solid experienced GK would be hugely beneficial to potentially 2 or 3 new lads in the back line.

Good point, I just assumed we would let him go to lower the wage bill

[jojomk1]

Mail suggesting Everton looking to get Barkley back in Jan

Where are we going to pull a rabbit out of the hat for CM

[MACCA]

Good point, I just assumed we would let him go to lower the wage bill

Nah, think he would be ideal imo

[MACCA]

Mail suggesting Everton looking to get Barkley back in Jan

Where are we going to pull a rabbit out of the hat for CM

I think we will see how cut adrift we are come Monday, and that will have some bearing on our January transfer business and preparations for summer.

We would be stupid not to have an eye on being in the championship next season if its 0 points from the next 2, the games after these are

Leicester H
Arsenal A
Man Utd H
Liverpool H

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think we will see how cut adrift we are come Monday, and that will have some bearing on our January transfer business and preparations for summer.

We would be stupid not to have an eye on being in the championship next season if its 0 points from the next 2, the games after these are

Leicester H
Arsenal A
Man Utd H
Liverpool H

You would like to think they are already planning for it.

We are losing 11 players in 6 months they will have to fill out the squad from somewhere

[Hedontplayforyou]

If we are looking at two players on loan to go into the first team as reports suggest, I’m struggling to see where these players will come from. With covid depleting squads, apparently or genuinely , some of the names may be kept back to fill squads out in such scenarios.

Previously linked Ross Barkley would be a prime example, although if he’s been linked with Everton recently then I can’t see him choosing anyone else over them.

Lingard will more than likely end up at Newcastle, Van de Beek would be another I’d guess that will end up in the north east too. Not suggesting we’d get these but they are peripheral at United (a club who can afford to loan out)

Eddie Nketiah was the one I thought could have been linked with us, up until the fallout with Aubameyang, now he’s looking like the backup to Lacazette.
Curtis Jones from Liverpool would have been another potential for me however I don’t think we are the top of Klopps friends list at the moment plus I think he may be injured

So perhaps we will look to bring in players from abroad? Big decisions to be made in the next couple of weeks

[MACCA]

You would like to think they are already planning for it.

We are losing 11 players in 6 months they will have to fill out the squad from somewhere

I though we were a player short from summer of staying up, then grab 1 more in January ready for the rebuild in the summer for another Premier league season.

However our poor start, covid again , I can't see much in the way starting 11 Premier league quality players being purchased due to our current position.

Can we afford or are willing to pay big fees and wages when it's looking a strong possibility that we will go down, and if we can afford the former, will the players we had in mind be prepared to come now?

[Newcastleclaret93]

I though we were a player short from summer of staying up, then grab 1 more in January ready for the rebuild in the summer for another Premier league season.

However our poor start, covid again , I can't see much in the way starting 11 Premier league quality players being purchased due to our current position.

Can we afford or are willing to pay big fees and wages when it's looking a strong possibility that we will go down, and if we can afford the former, will the players we had in mind be prepared to come now?

This window could be seen as the one to renew the squad for the championship. I have seen we have been linked with the Sunderland midfielder etc…

[MACCA]

If we are looking at two players on loan to go into the first team as reports suggest, I’m struggling to see where these players will come from. With covid depleting squads, apparently or genuinely , some of the names may be kept back to fill squads out in such scenarios.

Previously linked Ross Barkley would be a prime example, although if he’s been linked with Everton recently then I can’t see him choosing anyone else over them.

Lingard will more than likely end up at Newcastle, Van de Beek would be another I’d guess that will end up in the north east too. Not suggesting we’d get these but they are peripheral at United (a club who can afford to loan out)

Eddie Nketiah was the one I thought could have been linked with us, up until the fallout with Aubameyang, now he’s looking like the backup to Lacazette.
Curtis Jones from Liverpool would have been another potential for me however I don’t think we are the top of Klopps friends list at the moment plus I think he may be injured

So perhaps we will look to bring in players from abroad? Big decisions to be made in the next couple of weeks

Does that not go against everything SD builds and stands for, getting in 2 loan players and thrusting them into the team?
Then to add in the are possibly foreign

I agree it'd be great to see it, but SD is very rigid with his set up, style and approach.
He has mentioned himself he isn't a fan of the loan market, and results suggests he isn't the best at utilising it either.

Be a very interesting couple of weeks though, and will possibly show whether we are digging out the boxing gloves, or hoisting the white flag.

[IanMcL]

Keep the prayer going.

[MACCA]

This window could be seen as the one to renew the squad for the championship. I have seen we have been linked with the Sunderland midfielder etc…

That would be the approach we might take after the Man Utd and Leeds results.
They'll be plenty of positives from doing it now.

Our assets are at peak price due to being in the Premier League and it being January, fees are always inflated.

We have 6 months to bed them in, get the "framework" etc into place.

We are still a Premier league club so will have more appeal as we will still mathematically have a chance of survival.

[Firthy]

The way things are going it's not unfeasible that we could get a draw at OT and wins against Leeds and Watford. Things would look completely different then and make any significant signings even more unlikely.

[RVclaret]

This window could be seen as the one to renew the squad for the championship. I have seen we have been linked with the Sunderland midfielder etc…

Surely we try to extend Vydra’s contract then, very good Championship striker. Him and Wood would be lethal.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Surely we try to extend Vydra’s contract then, very good Championship striker. Him and Wood would be lethal.

I think the players agent has made it clear over the last few years Vydra wants out.

I highly doubt he will be here longer than this season

[ecc]

If anybody's looking for arguments for closing down the Internet then best direct them to this thread.

Martial and Pulisic.

[warksclaret]

Not a rumour but I see Middlesborough are trying to secure a loan for Aaron Connolly of Brighton. I have seen him a few times-quite an aggressive attacker who has given us problems through his probing and running, when he has played against us. Bit similar to Vydra but a lot harder to knock him off the ball. With injuries and lack of form and pace I don't see Barnes featuring much more this season unless we are really struggling with injuries. Definitely an SD type of player and I would not be disappointed to see him join our squad

[ClaretMov]

Not a rumour but I see Middlesborough are trying to secure a loan for Aaron Connolly of Brighton. I have seen him a few times-quite an aggressive attacker who has given us problems through his probing and running, when he has played against us. Bit similar to Vydra but a lot harder to knock him off the ball. With injuries and lack of form and pace I don't see Barnes featuring much more this season unless we are really struggling with injuries. Definitely an SD type of player and I would not be disappointed to see him join our squad

5 goals in 47 game's......no thank you

[ecc]

NOT A RUMOUR, NOT A RUMOUR

Difficult to think of realistic targets as always in January and even more so given the current health crisis.

But, one right winger who is getting very little gametime is El Ghazi at Villa. Just nine appearances this season with only four starts. Last season he scored 10 in 28 PL games.

I'm thinking of a loan but I know it won't happen.

[Conroy92]

NOT A RUMOUR, NOT A RUMOUR

Difficult to think of realistic targets as always in January and even more so given the current health crisis.

But, one right winger who is getting very little gametime is El Ghazi at Villa. Just nine appearances this season with only four starts. Last season he scored 10 in 28 PL games.

I'm thinking of a loan but I know it won't happen.

I like El Ghazi and think he'd be a good player for us, problem is he seems to be at his best coming from the left, same as Dwight and if Dyches comments are anything to go by, Cornet is still planned for the left. I still think a CM and RM should be priority. We know Cornet and Wood can both score, they need more/better service.

[boatshed bill]

What is Waller like..he seems to play regularly for the U23s, havent seen him but if he is to have a chance as a pro then he needs a chance even as third choice.
On the flipside of that though I dont understand why Norris or Hennessy dont play ocaisionally for the 23s as an overage player to keep them match sharp

Waller is nowhere near ready for first team football.
Not sure of this, but I think he can still play for the U18s

[Iloveyoubrady]

Personally, I’d be against signing someone like el ghazi. Will cost a lot because he’s “proven” in the league. Problem is, he’s proven that he’s quite average in the league. Signings like cornet come with risk but potential reward when they turn into better players than a typical bottom of the prem winger like el ghazi who will never even recoup a transfer fee, never mind profit.

[warksclaret]

5 goals in 47 game's......no thank you

8 goals in 52 games for Brighton. So far this season in the PL Vydra, Barnes and Rodriguez have got one goal between them. Wish I had your blinding faith. Connolly is currently better than all three of these

[ClaretMov]

8 goals in 52 games for Brighton. So far this season in the PL Vydra, Barnes and Rodriguez have got one goal between them. Wish I had your blinding faith. Connolly is currently better than all three of these

If your going to quote "this season" in the premier league then Aaron Connolly has scored 0.......so again no thanks, and my blind faith ???? I've never said I'm happy with the Burnley forward line

[warksclaret]

Connolly is very much a fringe player, and only starts for Brighton if they have major injuries in their forward line.He has only started 4 games this season, and yes I admit not scored this season in the PL. From what I have seen of him though both for Ireland and Brighton he is a "nasty player" to play against. He is only 21 and someone who could well go on to better himself by going out on loan. Just thought he was worth consideration, and presumably if Middlesborough could afford him, we could, and it would be just a loan. Struggling to see Vydra, Barnes and Rodriguez getting the vital goals to keep us in the Prem (33 PL starts between them this season and one goal)

[ClaretMov]

Warks the problem is more the supply to the front line rather than the front line itself

[warksclaret]

Fully accept that, but the forwards, including Wood have also disappointed in a number of games, through lack of sensible running, getting into good positions, and their general hold up play, and taking chances when they have come. Infact doing all the good things Cornet does naturally

[ClaretAL]

Guys/Gals I accept little to nothing in the way of transfer rumours, but getting a little off topic here.

[clarethomer]

5 goals in 47 game's......no thank you

You can't rate strikers purely off this stat.

I think we put a lot of blame on how good/bad our strikers are but the supply they get is useless at times.

Brighton and Burnley have similar stats this season for their attacking

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When your midfield is deep in their own half a lot - there are few strikers that will score a high volume of goals.

[KRBFC]

There isn't many forward lines as static as ours

[boatshed bill]

"Big chances"??
Obviously these can be created (or not) by those on the end of passes into the danger area, so a pointless stat really.
How many crosses and forward passes been wasted due to a combination of poor anticipation and offsides?

[clarethomer]

The point being that you could look at all the stats you want and you can't say that a player is likely to be good/poor/indifferent for a club.

You just need to understand that any striker playing for us would struggle. You can't just look at a stat like goals and appearances and decide that is the reason why we should or shouldn't buy someone.

I don't know if Claret Mov is right or wrong in his assessment but I for one think we would dramatically increase our strikers return with better ability and pace which allows us to turn defence into attack and improve our supply.

[boatshed bill]

The point being that you could look at all the stats you want and you can't say that a player is likely to be good/poor/indifferent for a club.

You just need to understand that any striker playing for us would struggle. You can't just look at a stat like goals and appearances and decide that is the reason why we should or shouldn't buy someone.

I don't know if Claret Mov is right or wrong in his assessment but I for one think we would dramatically increase our strikers return with better ability and pace which allows us to turn defence into attack and improve our supply.

And having forwards with a little bit of anticipation?

[get stuck in tracy]

There isn't many forward lines as static as ours

No, there aren't

[clarethomer]

And having forwards with a little bit of anticipation?

they need something to anticipate too I guess

[boatshed bill]

they need something to anticipate too I guess

One of their jobs is to create angles, make themselves available for a pass.
Not fair to constantly blame the midfielders, not saying you are BTW.

[clarethomer]

One of their jobs is to create angles, make themselves available for a pass.
Not fair to constantly blame the midfielders, not saying you are BTW.

I know. We score when our wingers get decent crosses in - or our fullbacks overlap and stretch defences. We need defences to be afraid of pushing too high too and forcing us to sit too deep. We need to look beyond stats and see what is happening in the way we play at times and finding players that can make those marginal gains over the pitch.