Is Wood undroppable?

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:13 pm

He really is struggling at the moment and offering so little to us as a team in almost any capacity. I know there is a lot going on with Covid and injuries, but no matter how poor his form is he starts every game.

It's been a while since he looked like the Chris Wood of old and last night there was service into and around the box, but he didn't get to any of them, except the early one he headed way over.

I desperately want him to regain his form and we know what he is capable of, but how long can we persist when we are struggling like this?

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:18 pm

Not sure, but nobody in their right mind would drop him against Leeds.

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:21 pm

Norman wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:18 pm
Not sure, but nobody in their right mind would drop him against Leeds.

Just said exactly that to my eldest lad.

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:27 pm

Guller Bull wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Just said exactly that to my eldest lad.

Tell your son he has a dad who talks sense.

In a way, the same could be said for Lennon and after he's started and scored, you can't really drop him either.

Which fits perfectly for Cornet to start on the bench and come on in the second half.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:32 pm

Norman wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:18 pm
Not sure, but nobody in their right mind would drop him against Leeds.

Maybe, but when was his last good game?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:37 pm

Even out of form, he looks the only one ( currently available) capable of putting the ball in the back of the net with any sort of regularity that will keep us up.

He looks bereft of any sort of confidence.
He probably needs a tap to get the cogs going again, although without Cornet we look a side incapable of carving out a chance for him, I can't think of too many half chances in the last 4 or 5 games, never mind genuine misses..

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:38 pm

Is he eckerslike. Currently offering nowt to the team.

A waste of a place imo.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:38 pm

dropping Wood isn't straight forward, he wins so many defensive headers from opposition corners it would be dangerous to lose that.......BUT he needs to start scoring

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:42 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:37 pm
Even out of form, he looks the only one ( currently available) capable of putting the ball in the back of the net with any sort of regularity that will keep us up.

He looks bereft of any sort of confidence.
He probably needs a tap to get the cogs going again, although without Cornet we look a side incapable of carving out a chance for him, I can't think of too many half chances in the last 4 or 5 games, never mind genuine misses..

Didn’t Mee and Tarkowski have header chances yesterday? We’ve several players every bit as likely to score as Wood.

Personally, I want Cornet to play on Sunday and I wouldn’t mind McNeil and Lennon alongside.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:44 pm

Average 15 goals for 4 seasons in the top flight. He will equal or better this.
It will help when Dwight stops wasting his time on the right side and starts doing what he does best , skinning defenders and putting excellent crosses for Chris to convert

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:50 pm

Footballers need confidence.

He'll get one, then a brace, then he's off.

Could have had two last night... all down to confidence.

Undroppable? Hell yeah !!!

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:51 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:44 pm
Average 15 goals for 4 seasons in the top flight. He will equal or better this.

Doesn't look that way at the moment with 3 in 16, but I hope you are correct.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:53 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:50 pm
Footballers need confidence.

He'll get one, then a brace, then he's off.

Could have had two last night... all down to confidence.

Undroppable? Hell yeah !!!

He scored a cracker against Brentford and was hoping that would kick-start him, but it didn't seem to happen.

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:54 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:50 pm
Footballers need confidence.

He'll get one, then a brace, then he's off.

Could have had two last night... all down to confidence.

Undroppable? Hell yeah !!!

He's had droughts before and then gone on scoring streaks again. And as I say, you'd never drop him for the next game anyway.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:09 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:32 pm
Maybe, but when was his last good game?

When was the teams last good game? Brentford for both.

what_no_pies · Post by **what_no_pies** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:11 pm

His goal return has been brilliant for us but nobody is immune to some constructive criticism and here's mine.

He's very streaky. Even when he's in good goalscoring form his general play (particularly hold up play) is seriously lacking and considering his stature it should be a strength but it's showing no signs of improvement. For such a big lad he gives defenders an easy game too often. Doesn't put himself about anywhere near enough for a giant triangle - often he doesn't even compete for winnable headers. I watch him closely and so often I can't help but think how much harder he could make the game for the defenders. That's my main frustration with him. When he's not hitting the net its really hard to excuse. Of course his limitations are why we have him putting the numbers in for Burnley and not a bigger club.

He contributes defensively, has proven a reliable source of goals over 4 seasons and has come through lean spells before so he deserves more patience than some other players. We know Dyche has patience with his favourites and that's been a feature of our success so despite his shortcomings were better off getting behind him.

Stick with him I say.

He's clearly a confidence player too so I genuinely believe we have a big role to play in helping him turn it around.

He absolutely deserves a song for starters. Nobody is gonna convince me that any player wouldn't get a lift from hearing their name and some appreciation from their supporters. That's our job and we're not performing either.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:14 pm

No choice with our injuries, however just like we are not going to suddenly start winning, its highly unlikely he will start scoring

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:19 pm

I take it JRod is injured again ? Whenever he starts to look sharp he gets a niggle . Though past his best ,a fit JR offers far more in and around the box than a woeful out of form Wood. Perhaps Lennon may get a real resurgence and almost force us to attack

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:21 pm

No he isn't, however we probably don't have the luxury of resting him, although it might be exactly what both parties need.

Wood's past record has to be factored in, but he just can't buy a goal for love or money right now.

Mind you neither can most of the other strikers, and therein lies our problems.

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:21 pm

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:19 pm
I take it JRod is injured again ? Whenever he starts to look sharp he gets a niggle . Though past his best ,a fit JR offers far more in and around the box than a woeful out of form Wood. Perhaps Lennon may get a real resurgence and almost force us to attack

Last I heard, he'd tested positive for Covid.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:23 pm

I would have given the young lads in the U23s a chance by now, but they all appear to be injured at the moment.
Chris is having a really bad run, but without an obvious replacement we have to back him.
All the issues are inside his head, it's a confidence thing, he hasn't suddenly become a bad player, but only he can sort it out, not even Sean can.

I agree with WNP, but I'd add he needs someone working off him CLOSELY. He is no good isolated, he needs someone to knock the balls down too, and to play a quick pass inside the area, to create a chance for him. The way we have set up and played, of late, just doesn't suit him. Unless we get braver, and get bodies in the box to create space and pick up loose balls, he will continue to struggle.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:30 pm

Norman wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:21 pm
Last I heard, he'd tested positive for Covid.

Ah ,fair enough ,cheers

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:36 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:13 pm
He really is struggling at the moment and offering so little to us as a team in almost any capacity. I know there is a lot going on with Covid and injuries, but no matter how poor his form is he starts every game.

Wouldn't have started last night had everyone been fit

what_no_pies · Post by **what_no_pies** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:55 pm

Vydra makes Wood look a better player incidentally so the insistence with sticking with Chris Wood makes Vydra's most recent omissions really puzzling.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:57 pm

what_no_pies wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:55 pm
Vydra makes Wood look a better player

Are you serious?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:58 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:37 pm
Even out of form, he looks the only one ( currently available) capable of putting the ball in the back of the net with any sort of regularity that will keep us up.

He looks bereft of any sort of confidence.
He probably needs a tap to get the cogs going again, although without Cornet we look a side incapable of carving out a chance for him, I can't think of too many half chances in the last 4 or 5 games, never mind genuine misses..

At the moment, I’d argue he absolutely DOESN’T look the only one capable of putting the ball in the back of the net. His free header last nite that went high and wide from a position you’d normally back him to score from epitomising his form over the last four months or so. That was a very good chance created by a side without MC.
I agree his confidence looks shot, and he will only see a return of that by getting a couple and he can only do that by playing.
He’s had the tap in you speak of, but it didn’t help him at all.
I dunno what’s wrong with him, but he looks a long way off scoring, and his body language isn’t all that either.
As for being undroppable, id say no, but it’s not my call. SD players out of form don’t normally get dropped. A breach of discipline may result in a ‘rest’, but a lack of goals and other contributions to the game I’m afraid won’t result in him being dropped.

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:58 pm

2 of the best partnerships under Dyche:

Wood and Barnes
Wood and Vydra

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:04 pm

I got tore down on here for suggesting he offers very little without goals, I think we're now starting to see this.

I cut him some slack early season and suggested he was possibly tired from the International games, he's had a break now with the COVID games being called off and still looks absolutely shot of any confidence or ability.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:57 pm
Are you serious?

I think he means that when paired up in the second half of last season, we played really well offensively and looked quite dangerous going forward. It was a very good partnership and looked promising.

Vydras lack of goals then is no worse than Woods lack of goals now.

Anyway, we can forget Vydra…. He’s not fancied and he’s not the future and that’s fair enough as he doesn’t take enough chances I get that. He will be off before long. My personal feelings on it is that he should’ve had a longer spell in the side to further develop his partnership with Wood, but that won’t be happening now so best to look elsewhere I reckon.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:17 pm

Theres something not right between Dyche and Wood IMHO, something will give and I think Wood may well seek pastures new which is such a shame as he is our best forward when on top of his game.

claretgimmer · Post by **claretgimmer** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:58 pm

If your name is Sean surname Dyche then no he isn`t droppable, he`s got the photos must have ?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:17 pm

claretgimmer wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:58 pm
If your name is Sean surname Dyche then no he isn`t droppable, he`s got the photos must have ?

As I've posted, Wood would have been on the bench in the recent postponed games so therefore is droppable.

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:17 pm
As I've posted, Wood would have been on the bench in the recent postponed games so therefore is droppable.

Do you know who would have been upfront?

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 9:26 am

He was out drinking past midnight in Manchester last night so I hope he's not playing.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 9:36 am

Would you not work on Monday, if you were out drinking Saturday night?

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 9:44 am

I don't drink, but considering it's a professional sportsman and it's 38 hours from a game and he and the team are under scrutiny, I would say it wasn't his best idea.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:07 am

If he controls his drink like he does a football, then he will have been plastered.

Bet he didn't score either.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:11 am

He looks great on those crappy SpreadEx short videos that the club post on Facebook.

Unfortunately, he’s been worse than garbage on the pitch where it actually matters.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:57 am

Norman wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:19 pm
Do you know who would have been upfront?

Jay, he was meant to start at Leicester too with Cornet, as Wood was out of form, before picking up an injury on the Thursday, which gave Wood a reprieve.

Then we went on a bit if a run where we we're scoring goals and picking up a few points, looking a lot better ( in the most part due to Cornet)
Maybe Mr Dyche wants to give the Cornet and Jay partnership another go, they're the more technical footballers with better movement regards up top, Jay can run the channels well, and looked a lot better on his brief run out v West Ham than Woid did in the previous hour.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:02 am

Yes...he will score one then get a bagful.Keep the faith.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:17 pm

The Enclosure wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:02 am
Yes...he will score one then get a bagful.Keep the faith.

I thought that after Brentford...

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:46 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:17 pm
Theres something not right between Dyche and Wood IMHO, something will give and I think Wood may well seek pastures new which is such a shame as he is our best forward when on top of his game.

I think any forward, when in long term awful form , it’s bound to get a bit tetchy with the gaffer . The faith SD has shown shows it ain’t that bad tbf. Though it’s not helped at all the niggles /covid etc that JR has had matched with Cornets injury absences, leaving him little choice but to go with Wood. Wood is technically quite limited and totally needs a good cross ratio. With the decline of JBG and the switching of Dwight it really doesn’t help Woody .

BFC88 · Post by **BFC88** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:01 pm

I always have sympathy with our strikers with the sheer lack of creativity in our side. They are left to feed on scraps or create their own chances. Midfield is the biggest problem. Give Chris Wood the service and yes he will miss a few but i've no doubt he will score goals. He's proven it season on season.

Hope we really go at leeds tomorrow, a win could transform our season.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:03 pm

BFC88 wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:01 pm
I always have sympathy with our strikers with the sheer lack of creativity in our side. They are left to feed on scraps or create their own chances. Midfield is the biggest problem. Give Chris Wood the service and yes he will miss a few but i've no doubt he will score goals. He's proven it season on season.

Hope we really go at leeds tomorrow, a win could transform our season.

We create quite a lot of good chances but often don't take them

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:57 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:03 pm
We create quite a lot of good chances but often don't take them

We did against utd, we just went 3 games with only 1 shot on target in total.

As stated earlier, Wood needs players around him, to create space and chances. We just don't get enough bodies in the box, through a negative attitude that has pervaded the team. Until we here yeah LOL not even 34 change that Chris will continue to struggle.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:59 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:57 pm
We did against utd, we just went 3 games with only 1 shot on target in total.

As stated earlier, Wood needs players around him, to create space and chances. We just don't get enough bodies in the box, through a negative attitude that has pervaded the team. Until we here yeah LOL not even 34 change that Chris will continue to struggle.

That's the problem - shots on goal. So that stat is meaningless to the point about not taking our chances. The best chances against Man United weren't on target.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:11 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:42 pm
Didn’t Mee and Tarkowski have header chances yesterday? We’ve several players every bit as likely to score as Wood.

Personally, I want Cornet to play on Sunday and I wouldn’t mind McNeil and Lennon alongside.

Cornet, McNeil and Lennon up front: three wingers, eh. I remember in the late 70s, we hammered Sunderland away in the FA Cup with three wingers up front: Morley, Kindon and James.

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:13 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:57 am
Jay, he was meant to start at Leicester too with Cornet, as Wood was out of form, before picking up an injury on the Thursday, which gave Wood a reprieve.

Then we went on a bit if a run where we we're scoring goals and picking up a few points, looking a lot better ( in the most part due to Cornet)
Maybe Mr Dyche wants to give the Cornet and Jay partnership another go, they're the more technical footballers with better movement regards up top, Jay can run the channels well, and looked a lot better on his brief run out v West Ham than Woid did in the previous hour.

I can't see Lennon being dropped now. Leeds' defence is extremely weak - very open and perfect for players with pace.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:15 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:59 pm
That's the problem - shots on goal. So that stat is meaningless to the point about not taking our chances. The best chances against Man United weren't on target.

Over the past few seasons hasn't our chances scored to Expected Goals been one of the best in the PL. We don't tend to create many chances hence the lower number of goals scored. Last season some were bemoaning the lower number of goals we'd scored yet it was only three less than when we qualified for Europe in 7th.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:18 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:15 pm
Over the past few seasons hasn't our chances scored to Expected Goals been one of the best in the PL. We don't tend to create many chances hence the lower number of goals scored. Last season some were bemoaning the lower number of goals we'd scored yet it was only three less than when we qualified for Europe in 7th.

I'm not on about the past seasons. I'm on about this season. We've missed too many golden opportunities in the last few months.