CLARETS V Weeds MATCH THREAD

[joey13]

1 win in 17 says it all

[Vegas Claret]

I'm not even annoyed, another truly abysmal performance that was 100% expected. Attitude was dreadful, Dyche looked perplexed. Nowhere but down from here imho

[IanMcL]

Garlick is the root cause of the current playing squad being so short on contract. Easier to play a contract out, when within striking distance.

Look forward to winning the FA Cup.

[ClaretAL]

We can't even make a pass at the moment, league 2 stuff rather than Premier league at the minute.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

I bet Cornet wonders what the f.ck he has come Burnley for.

Hes the only player looking like scoring the rest look absolutely awful.

I would play Collins instead of Mee next match hes been shite today as well as Tarks.

[tarkys_ears]

We wont beat Huddersfield

I don't think we can.

[tiger76]

Still just 2 points off safety.

Too early for panic.

Maybe! but just look at our results against this around us, we've only beaten Brentford, and they had a lot of their regulars missing that day.

Where are the wins coming from if we can't beat the likes of Leeds.

Plus you have seen our next few fixtures, I doubt we'll be only 2 points adrift come February, even with Watford's dire form.

3 soft goals conceded again, why do we now have such a soft spine, when in the past that was the bedrock of our survival.

[Somethingfishy]

Cork lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol and numptys on here call Brownhill

ALL the midfielders we have are simply not up to standard. Westwood the best of a bad bunch. Powder puff the lot of em.

[tarkys_ears]

I bet Cornet wonders what the f.ck he has come Burnley for.

He's come here to demo his skills in the PL.

Honestly, when we go down, he will no doubt have a release clause and being with us will be absolutely no bad thing. If you can shine in this shower of ****, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if a top 6 came in for him!

[bfcjg]

Let's prepare for next season,father time caught up with squad, lack of investment, lack of tactical flexibility, tired framework, tired excuses.

[ElectroClaret]

I bet Cornet wonders what the f.ck he has come Burnley for.

He won't be staying, if/when we drop.

[tiger76]

We wont beat Huddersfield

I don't think we can.

Didn't expect to beat Huddersfield anyway, they are on a decent run in the Champ, however it might be a useful guide as to how we'll fare WHEN we drop, which we undoubtedly will now.

[claretgimmer]

I really hope Pace doesn`t give Dyche a transfer budget in January, better spent paying off his stupidly offered contract and getting fresh eyes, fresh ideas and maybe a manager who might get us to play a modicum of football because I for one won`t be renewing whilst Dyche stays in charge, there`s only so much dross a fan should be expected to put up with.

[HyperClaret]

1 win in 17 says it all

Not to mention our having the worst rate of points per game in the entire top 4 divisions

OR the fact that our team last match had the combined oldest age we have ever put out in the Prem...

[ewanrob]

He has to go, any other club and he would be long gone.

We need to know, and quickly, if he fancies another crack at the Championship. I suspect he won’t so we simply have to part ways.

We've just given him a mind boggling contract, agree with your sentiment. Let's see how ruthless the Americans can be if they see it slipping...

[alf_resco]

Dyche played a blinder over his contract negotiations.
Gonna cost Pace a fortune to ditch him.

[minnieclaret]

My biggest disappointment tactically has to be Lennon down the middle with Dwight & JBG wide. When he first broke through we were all assured that CM would be his position eventually. With his ability to beat a man these last two games were the perfect opportunity to give him a go. Now I sense we’ll never know.

[ClaretMov]

Not good enough - Dyche has shown he can turn Championship players into a Premier League team, but we’ve stood still for far too long.

And now quickly turning premier league player's into championship one's.......TIME TO MOVE ON FROM DYCHE

Football with no plan B and haven't moved on with the same tactics that don't work

[evensteadiereddie]

I’ll always love Sean Dyche, but the performances are rancid, and the form is terminal.

I want him charge of us for next season though as we’re going down and he knows how to get promoted. I almost wish I could just fast forward past all the impending defeats and just get to next August and the prospect of a decent campaign down there.

Well said, jedi. A bit of perspective at last.
I'm not sure we're down yet but we've known a season like this was a matter of when not if. If the worst comes the worst, we've had a decent run in the PL and if matters don't improve by, say, the end of February, we plan for the Championship with Dyche, of course, in charge.

[Luppy]

The final two substitutions were simply baffling. Cork and Westwood were absolutely dire today, Dwight non existent. Stephens had to come on and try to calm things down in the middle - instead we move our main threat out wide. Then take Wood off whilst we are playing long ball and we don’t win a single challenge for the remainder of the game. Just baffling.

I’m a Dyche fan but that was blind faith today - and sadly we are going down. You go behind in a game we cannot lose and don’t have a touch of any note in the final third for the remainder of the game. Just awful

[Colburn_Claret]

When we were successful the good players infected the weaker, now the weaker infect the strong.
Nowhere near good enough, no excuses.
Injuries, match fitness, so what. Our attitude is all wrong, and on all the evidence SD is unwilling, or incapable of doing
anything about it.

[scouseclaret]

So bad, it’s actually quite comical.

Brings on Cornet down the middle, gets us back in the game albeit with a brilliant free kick and then decides to stick him on the left. Since I don’t think he touched it.

Not so much where Cornet was playing. The problem is that since we went behind, every time we won the ball at the back, we launched it forward, they headed it away and went on another attack. So predictable it’s embarrassing.

Easy to blame Dyche, and he is responsible for the tactics, but we’re paying the price for years of underinvestment. That was apparently the oldest team we’ve ever fielded in the PL. We’ve been clinging on for the last 4 seasons except one, and you can’t carry on like that without strengthening the team.

At least we’ve got Cornet to fund the rebuilding job next season!

[RVclaret]

Cash in on Dwight now while we have a touch more bargaining power rather than in the Champ

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Whos going to watch this shite in the championship, Garlick and Dyche out please and asap

[NickBFC]

Said elsewhere, we are in terminal decline. Aging squad, lack of fresh ideas, a stubborn manager. We need to look ahead, regardless if we stay up or not, this squad needs a huge overhaul of personnel and tactics. It's just too outdated in the modern game. Of course SD will go down as a Burnley legend, and rightly so, but nothing lasts forever. I believe it is time to freshen everything up. Its been a very painful 12 months watching the team gradually losing all of the attributes they worked so hard to gain.

Edited to say, the previous regime are very much to blame too. That is water under the bridge, change has to start now.

[HyperClaret]

Also with my bit said about our terrible form at the moment, I really don't think that parting ways with Dyche would be of any help at all. He has made it clear every season that he has wanted more money to work with for transfers, and has been working miracles since the beginning. You can't expect him to get results put of our current team, because they are simply not up to the standard.

[Andreshotboots]

You've seen further evidence today why our home crowds are 4000 down..

[SGr]

I learned my lesson from calling for Dyche’s head in 2018. It won’t benefit us, we won’t get anyone better whether we go down or not and it’ll cost a fortune. Forget Dyche.

It’s the fact we still employ players like Jack Cork in 2022 that gets me.

[Somethingfishy]

The final two substitutions were simply baffling. Cork and Westwood were absolutely dire today, Dwight non existent. Stephens had to come on and try to calm things down in the middle - instead we move our main threat out wide. Then take Wood off whilst we are playing long ball and we don’t win a single challenge for the remainder of the game. Just baffling.

I’m a Dyche fan but that was blind faith today - and sadly we are going down. You go behind in a game we cannot lose and don’t have a touch of any note in the final third for the remainder of the game. Just awful

I said it before. Stephens for McNeil was the change. Solidify the middle whilst taking an uninterested player off. Wood (as poor as he was again) had to stay on as a focal point. Changing like for like is a Dyche thing though. He has little tactical imagination. Predictable. If anything it made us more unbalanced and worse off too.

[alf_resco]

I've got 90 quid's worth of Villa (a) tickets I want to get refunded. Anyone know how I go about it?

[Somethingfishy]

Also with my bit said about our terrible form at the moment, I really don't think that parting ways with Dyche would be of any help at all. He has made it clear every season that he has wanted more money to work with for transfers, and has been working miracles since the beginning. You can't expect him to get results put of our current team, because they are simply not up to the standard.

Who signed the players that are not up to standard?

[willsclarets]

Who signed the players that are not up to standard?

Do you think he'd sign a 34 year old Lennon if he'd had 20-30 million to spend on a winger?

[Somethingfishy]

The acid test for me is the summer. Obviously it depends what division we are in as to what we do but realistically either way it is a chance to get rid of some of the dross and rebuild. If Cork gets another contract it really is time to pack in.

[Somethingfishy]

Do you think he'd sign a 34 year old Lennon if he'd had 20-30 million to spend on a winger?

The same Lennon he never wanted to let go despite him giving us absolutely nothing the first time?

[Dannyh1882]

I'm 47 years old and loved this club since the age of 6! For the first time in my life I'm embarrassed to be a Claret! Sean Dyche has become an old girlfriend I used to love but now can't remember why I liked them in the first place infact I'm starting to hate him! I can tell you his fine detailed close margins after match interview without listening to it already! It's boring and tedious Dyche just like your Football, lack of tactics and team selection! Time for change now! You are judged on the present not the past just like everyone else is!

[LS7]

Watford’s next 2 games will be interesting, v Newcastle and Norwich

[Somethingfishy]

Wait for it...how much mention of details and margins are we going to get?

[Somethingfishy]

"leeds were hungrier and had that edge" Why Sean? Why do we never have it?

[matucana]

Dyche played a blinder over his contract negotiations.
Gonna cost Pace a fortune to ditch him.



Not necessarily so. At the time of signing it was reported in some of the football press that SD wanted just one season's salary to be payable as compensation in the event of being headhunted. Equally BFC wanted a similar settlement in the event of a dismissal. Presume some common ground was found.

[AlargeClaret]

"leeds were hungrier and had that edge" Why Sean? Why do we never have it?

Because we’re sh1t , and have no
Midfield

[davetheclaret]

My biggest disappointment tactically has to be Lennon down the middle with Dwight & JBG wide. When he first broke through we were all assured that CM would be his position eventually. With his ability to beat a man these last two games were the perfect opportunity to give him a go. Now I sense we’ll never know.

Been saying it for weeks give McNeil a free role, change the formation to allow him to go forward, id also like to see Collins come into the side by playing a 3 at the back, but Dyche wont change from his 442

[Cirrus_Minor]

We have been relying every season for Dyche to perform his routine miracle but this has been harder and harder as the squad has not been improved. In my opinion this year he an even tougher task. I think all the talk around the takeover improved expectations but the investment in players has been far too little too late. We are not down yet and I always keep the faith in our manager but good as he is he can’t plat fog. But moving him out would seal our relegation.

[Somethingfishy]

We have been relying every season for Dyche to perform his routine miracle but this has been harder and harder as the squad has not been improved. In my opinion this year he an even tougher task. I think all the talk around the takeover improved expectations but the investment in players has been far too little too late. We are not down yet and I always keep the faith in our manager but good as he is he can’t plat fog. But moving him out would seal our relegation.

Absolute sentimental bunkum. Not saying we should pot him but we are hardly in a state of affairs that bodes well for us avoiding relegation WITH him are we?

[evensteadiereddie]

Realistic, bud, not sentimental. Which miracle worker have you got in mind to replace Dyche ?

[Somethingfishy]

Absolute sentimental bunkum. Not saying we should pot him but we are hardly in a state of affairs that bodes well for us avoiding relegation WITH him are we?

Did you decide not to read that bit?

[Newcastleclaret93]

We have been relying every season for Dyche to perform his routine miracle but this has been harder and harder as the squad has not been improved. In my opinion this year he an even tougher task. I think all the talk around the takeover improved expectations but the investment in players has been far too little too late. We are not down yet and I always keep the faith in our manager but good as he is he can’t plat fog. But moving him out would seal our relegation.

This squad has over half a billion invested into it in wages and transfer fees.

Something has to change, the players certainly don’t care anymore and to be honest why would they? Half of the squad is out of contract in 6 months.

[evensteadiereddie]

I did but that's hardly a ringing endorsement of SD , is it ? So you'd keep him on then even if we go down ?



I know I would.

[Jakubclaret]

I did but that's hardly a ringing endorsement of SD , is it ? So you'd keep him on then even if we go down ?



I know I would.

The criticisms are being based upon performances & results over a longish period of time now it’s hardly knee jerk!

[evensteadiereddie]

"the players certainly don’t care anymore " - and you know this how exactly, newcastle ?

[Newcastleclaret93]

"the players certainly don’t care anymore " - and you know this how exactly, newcastle ?

Watching the game and seeing there reactions, quite clear to see from the lack of effort.