January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Newcastleclaret93]

Good result today.

Now it’s time for the owners to back the team up. 7 days to go and 3 signings needed.

I might be cautiously optimistic but I’m hoping for Lauriente, Ramsey and guirassy.

[dandeclaret]

One man’s cautiously optimistic is another man’s fantasy island.

[ClaretAndJew]

Fantasy island? More like fantasy universe.

[claretblue]

One man’s cautiously optimistic is another man’s fantasy island.

the planes, the planes!

[COBBLE]

One midfielder that I wouldn't mind being given a chance to shine is Dele Ali from Spurs.

This might be in our favour as it would take time to integrate him into their team.

[Row Z]

This might be in our favour as it would take time to integrate him into their team.

Not to mention he's been rubbish for a number of seasons. He's had a few different clean slates under new managers and still can't get on the pitch.

[KateR]

French league player links - This weekend.

Seko Fofana played 90 minutes in the 2-0 home defeat to Marseille
Armand Laurienté played 90 minutes in the 4-2 away defeat at Nantes
Angelo Fulgini played 90 minutes in the 2-1 home win against Troyes
Ludovic Ajorque played 90 minutes in the 4-3 away defeat at Bordeaux
Serhou Guirassy was an unused sub as Rennes lost 2-1 away at Clermont Foot

so high odds for new players coming in with at least one name starting with A, F, L and S, G unlikely but AC fits in the pattern.

[Vegas Claret]

Jack Fitzwater..........sadly FC Murder of Newcastle are also linked...........as are Watford. Whoever wrote and checked the article is ******
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... water.html

[elwaclaret]

Jack Fitzwater..........sadly FC Murder of Newcastle are also linked...........as are Watford. Whoever wrote and checked the article is ******
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... water.html

Pretty lazy Journalism… the second half is part of an earlier story about Watford wanting him… with the headline statement changed to make Newcastle fans look to me, or they’ve suddenly joined the race, but more likely they had no news for the space so rehashed their article with Murder inc want everyone…

[Vegas Claret]

Pretty lazy Journalism… the second half is part of an earlier story about Watford wanting him… with the headline statement changed to make Newcastle fans look to me, or they’ve suddenly joined the race, but more likely they had no news for the space so rehashed their article with Murder inc want everyone…

I mean, it doesn't take much to confuse me but this had me bamboozled !!

[mkmel]

Me no comprendez also

[Pearcey]

According to Fabrizio Romano, Ramsey will leave Juventus this week. Villa are favourites with the bookies.

[NewClaret]

According to Fabrizio Romano, Ramsey will leave Juventus this week. Villa are favourites with the bookies.

How many Ramseys do they need? Not as though they’re short of attacking talent.

[Pearcey]

How many Ramseys do they need? Not as though they’re short of attacking talent.

The Ramsey they have looks a player doesn’t he. The Athletic have an article about Aaron Ramsey and how he’s struggling to find a club.

[Steddyman]

Jack Fitzwater..........sadly FC Murder of Newcastle are also linked...........as are Watford. Whoever wrote and checked the article is ******
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... water.html

Because defence is the first priority. Of course!

[elwaclaret]

The Ramsey they have looks a player doesn’t he. The Athletic have an article about Aaron Ramsey and how he’s struggling to find a club.

The longer this goes the more likely I think it becomes. Palace rejecting the chance to have him and the clock running. Aston Villa seems a little random (after Palace decided they don’t need him). I think given the straight choice of staying at Juve not playing, or a chance to show the Premier league that he’s still has the ability to win a big contract from someone in the summer. I cannot see any kind of permanent deal from Burnley, but a subsidised loan would seem to suit all parties, at the moment.

[NewClaret]

The Ramsey they have looks a player doesn’t he. The Athletic have an article about Aaron Ramsey and how he’s struggling to find a club.

He looks a fantastic player.

Don’t think Villa need another 10 though. They’d be better investing in some of their top youth prospects.

[Pearcey]

Because defence is the first priority. Of course!

I’d imagine with today’s technology that we’d be able to negotiate multiple deals at the same time.

[arise_sir_charge]

Because defence is the first priority. Of course!

I love the idea that we have to sign players in the specific order of priority.

Do we sign a young promising centre half, no we don’t need one, let’s wait until we need one (summer most likely) and see who we can sign then!

This is one of the reasons our squad is in the shape it is.

[burnley007]

It'll be interesting to see if there has been any progress by this time next week, or whether we're still clinging onto flight paths and sightings in Tesco!

[Mala591]

If Lingard/Ramsey etc (or any other potential ‘top quality’ loan player) wants to play regular PL football until the end of the season then they must decide if they think they can ‘displace’ a member of the squad they are considering.

No point in them signing a loan deal for a top team and not getting any game time.

Not something that Pace or Dyche can use (too openly) as a selling point when trying to make loan signings but it IS the reality of our current situation and possible loan signings (however unlikely) should take this into account when making their decision.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I love the idea that we have to sign players in the specific order of priority.

Do we sign a young promising centre half, no we don’t need one, let’s wait until we need one (summer most likely) and see who we can sign then!

This is one of the reasons our squad is in the shape it is.

I would argue the complete opposite, the reason we are in the position we are now is because we don’t prioritise the positions that need strengthening.

How long have we been crying out for a CM and RM? It’s at least 24 months if not longer. Collins was a great signing but in reality if them funds were prioritised better we would most likely not be sitting bottom of the table.

[beddie]

Hopefully we will sign a couple but to me it’s on the basis that they come straight into the team, we have to shake things up.

[arise_sir_charge]

I would argue the complete opposite, the reason we are in the position we are now is because we don’t prioritise the positions that need strengthening.

How long have we been crying out for a CM and RM? It’s at least 24 months if not longer. Collins was a great signing but in reality if them funds were prioritised better we would most likely not be sitting bottom of the table.

You buy the players you need or are likely to need when you can. Maybe we’d not identified a suitable CM but knew Collins was worth snapping ip, same with Roberts.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You buy the players you need or are likely to need when you can. Maybe we’d not identified a suitable CM but knew Collins was worth snapping ip, same with Roberts.

Yes but we didn’t need Collins or Roberts in the summer even thought both good signings.

We desperately needed a CM and RM.

[dibraidio]

I would argue the complete opposite, the reason we are in the position we are now is because we don’t prioritise the positions that need strengthening.

How long have we been crying out for a CM and RM? It’s at least 24 months if not longer. Collins was a great signing but in reality if them funds were prioritised better we would most likely not be sitting bottom of the table.

We've signed Brownhill and Stephens in the last 24 months. Clearly somebody at Turf Moor thinks that they're good enough.

I really don't understand why we've not made right wing a priority with so few options but now I'd say that RW and replacing Wood and Vydra are more important than CM just because of our lack of goals and options.

[Rileybobs]

Yes but we didn’t need Collins or Roberts in the summer even thought both good signings.

We desperately needed a CM and RM.

We didn’t desperately need a CM and RM in summer. We had 4 senior CM’s and 2 RM’s in our squad. Your opinion that they are substandard may be valid, but we weren’t in desperate need for signings in these positions.

[Newcastleclaret93]

We didn’t desperately need a CM and RM in summer. We had 4 senior CM’s and 2 RM’s in our squad. Your opinion that they are substandard may be valid, but we weren’t in desperate need for signings in these positions.

But that’s not an argument though? We had 2 RBs on the books and 4 cbs. Yet we prioritised that position over CM and RM. Technically we only had 1 RM in the summer as well, we signed Lennon as the second RM.

[AlargeClaret]

I’m thinking a high end cm or winger and Cornet and Taylor back ( plus Roberts) should give some service to the likes of Vydra and Jay,who if started are good enough ( imo) if they’re given service ( which they’re utterly starved of)

[Rileybobs]

But that’s not an argument though? We had 2 RBs on the books and 4 cbs. Yet we prioritised that position over CM and RM. Technically we only had 1 RM in the summer as well, we signed Lennon as the second RM.

I wouldn’t say we prioritised those positions. Players became available in those positions who we wanted to buy, in the knowledge that Tarkowski and Bardsley will not be at the club beyond the end of this season. There is nothing to suggest that the club bought these players at the expense of a CM or RM.

[ClaretAL]

The club cant win! The opportunity arose to take an up and coming centre back with a very good background and pedigree, our current first team squad age profile was high and we had the CB position pairing out of contract in 12 months. So we took the option to buy now rather than in and around a media fanfare that we have now which would have escalated any prices. The club did well in my opinion

[Newcastleclaret93]

The club cant win! The opportunity arose to take an up and coming centre back with a very good background and pedigree, our current first team squad age profile was high and we had the CB position pairing out of contract in 12 months. So we took the option to buy now rather than in and around a media fanfare that we have now which would have escalated any prices. The club did well in my opinion

Great signings no arguments there at all.

Just saying it’s left us in a position where we are bottom of the table in January looking for a the targets we should have gone for in the summer.

[dermotdermot]

I’m thinking a high end cm or winger and Cornet and Taylor back ( plus Roberts) should give some service to the likes of Vydra and Jay,who if started are good enough ( imo) if they’re given service ( which they’re utterly starved of)

Vydra probably won’t be playing again for a couple of months. We literally have ONE striker who rarely scores a goal. If we sign one or two, we stay up. If we don’t, we are down without a doubt.

[quoonbeatz]

Great signings no arguments there at all.

Just saying it’s left us in a position where we are bottom of the table in January looking for a the targets we should have gone for in the summer.

Quite the juxtaposition.

[Dark Cloud]

Yes but we didn’t need Collins or Roberts in the summer even thought both good signings.

We desperately needed a CM and RM.

I have to say I get the point here. I've said several times on here that we clearly recruited 3 excellent first team squad additions in the summer and fair play to Alan and Co for that. BUT it was obvious that we desperately needed to strengthen in CM and by failing to do so we have put the future of those excellent signings in doubt because none will want to play in the Championship if they can help it. By selling Wood we have compounded the problems as we're now desperately light up front. I wasn't really sorry to see Wood depart when you look at the money offered, but it needs reinvesting extremely sharpish in a quality replacement. CM should have been the number one priority in the summer and yes picking up Collins and Roberts inadvertently along the way was fine, but it appears we took our eye off the most pressing issues. (IMO)

[Newcastleclaret93]

I have to say I get the point here. I've said several times on here that we clearly recruited 3 excellent first team squad additions in the summer and fair play to Alan and Co for that. BUT it was obvious that we desperately needed to strengthen in CM and by failing to do so we have put the future of those excellent signings in doubt because none will want to play in the Championship if they can help it. By selling Wood we have compounded the problems as we're now desperately light up front. I wasn't really sorry to see Wood depart when you look at the money offered, but it needs reinvesting extremely sharpish in a quality replacement. CM should have been the number one priority in the summer and yes picking up Collins and Roberts inadvertently along the way was fine, but it appears we took our eye off the most pressing issues. (IMO)

I think you have worded what I was trying to say very well. I agree with all the above.

[KlyBfc]

Had we not taken Collins or Roberts when we did there’s a strong chance certainly with the former that we’d never have signed them. When players come available to us we have to act or we will miss out. We’ve seen before what happens when we dilly dally / be cautious. We haven’t the luxury that others have as to pick and choose and wait as we will usually be out bid/priced if others get involved at a later date.

We definitely need
Cf
Cm/AM
RW
Or at least 2 that can play across the front line this window. We probably won’t get them.

[Top Claret]

Rumours are that Newcastle are now pushing for Tarkowski and that he could force the move, if so lets hope its for a similar amount they paid for Wood

[Newcastleclaret93]

Rumours are that Newcastle are now pushing for Tarkowski and that he could force the move, if so lets hope its for a similar amount they paid for Wood

Looking more likely now by the sounds of it.

Very concerning that we are debating selling him.

[RVclaret]

Where are these rumours coming from re. Tarkowski? Nothing online.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Looking more likely now by the sounds of it.

Very concerning that we are debating selling him.

What has been said and by who to make it look more likely ?

[Selby Claret]

Cash plus Wood probably

[kentonclaret]

Looking more likely now by the sounds of it.

Very concerning that we are debating selling him.

Selling your main source of PL goals last season and a key member of a central defensive partnership to a relegation rival would be uncomfortable to say the least, but of course these are not normal times. Our somewhat precarious financial situation coupled with the unlimited Saudi riches swelling the Newcastle coffers come into the equation.

[Quicknick]

If we sell Tarkowski, let's hope Collins doesn't get injured.

[Newcastleclaret93]

What has been said and by who to make it look more likely ?

No one was really talking about it other than just rumours over the last few weeks,

However I believe the following places have mentioned it in the last few days.

The Sun
Pundit arena
Luke Edwards
The express

Could all just be paperwork but seems to be gathering momentum that Tarks is a key target for them this window.

[claretonthecoast1882]

No one was really talking about it other than just rumours,

I believe the following places have mentioned it in the last few days.

The Sun
Pundit arena
Luke Edwards
The express

Could all just be paperwork but seems to be gathering momentum that Tarks is a key target for them this window.

I am sure he is a target, but it could be said 1000 times an hour by each of those listed and it doesn't make it more likely to happen.

[Guller Bull]

https://punditarena.com/football/andrew ... s-burnley/

[RVclaret]

https://punditarena.com/football/andrew ... s-burnley/

That's really not saying anything new other than we've got Collins in case Tarkowski leaves, which I really can't see happening unless Newcastle come in with a ridiculous amount, maybe over 25m.

[Lancasterclaret]

I read that to mean that Tarks has a huge release clause, and its up to Newcastle to pay it if they want him

And for us, its up to us to replace, or assume that Mee, Collins, Long and Thomas is enough

[Guller Bull]

It is a link though