January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Downhamclaret]

Just been talking to Ronny reppo he said he will avalible

[ksrclaret]

Imagine the throbber meltdown if we don't sign Weghorst.

Hehehe yes it would so be worth losing our only other prospect of a signing and getting relegated so we could witness some people on the internet being a bit cross.

[ClaretTony]

If we can’t attract him whilst we are a PL team there ain’t a hope in hell of us doing that in a league below.

I think we did attract him and he wanted to come. Surely this one is his club pulling the plug.

[KRBFC]

Surely no chance with their face saving operation now already completed.

Dinamo win tomorrow, we offer a little more, player forces move. I don't see us just accepting this surprise announcement, Pace will likely be straight on the phone to his agents asking all types of questions and trying to force through the deal.

[jrgbfc]

Not sure what the player is supposed to do if the club pull the plug?

[Spijed]

I can’t afford to waste two articles

How close are we on the Weghorst signing?

[karatekid]

A few Quotes for balance:

We could all drive ourselves mad thinking about what could have been. But life happens the way it happens, and there's no point wishing the past was any different. It will always be what it was, and there's not a damn thing we can do about it.

There will be times when doors close. Accept it. That chapter ended for a reason and in due time you will understand why.

Everything happens for a reason. Wait on God and trust in Him. He wants the best for us. He wants to take us from glory to glory, and from victory to victory.

[RalphCoatesComb]

Could be:

1 Player changed his mind
2 Club wanted $ up front
3 Bad blue boys menace
4 Saudi interference

Any more?

It's a long way to go for your Pašta Fažol and Uber Eats won't carry Feines Venison Goulash with prunes any more

[Top Claret]

The Croats will know we are desperate and flush with the silly money we received for Wood.

Maybe they are playing us in the hope that we come back with a silly 11th hour offer. It makes sense for them to squeeze every last euro out of us for them to get the best possible deal

[bfcjg]

I can’t afford to waste two articles

I bet your shredder hates the transfer window

[ClaretTony]

Dinamo win tomorrow, we offer a little more, player forces move. I don't see us just accepting this surprise announcement, Pace will likely be straight on the phone to his agents asking all types of questions and trying to force through the deal.

Dinamo would look pretty silly if they allowed a deal to go through now after this morning’s announcement.

[Jakubclaret]

I think we did attract him and he wanted to come. Surely this one is his club pulling the plug.

I don’t know that much about transfers & I don’t claim to but with negotiating with the player for this long I don’t buy into the possibility that the club weren’t open to selling him at some point, somethings recently changed whether we weren’t offering enough money & the club got fed up with us or he was stringing us along in order to get a better deal from his current club, I don’t know. It’s 1 of them 2 possibilities.

[RVclaret]

Dinamo would look pretty silly if they allowed a deal to go through now after this morning’s announcement.

Agree. Let’s hope we have some back ups. Is the third ‘potential’ you mentioned before a midfielder?

[quoonbeatz]

If we can’t attract him whilst we are a PL team there ain’t a hope in hell of us doing that in a league below.

As ever, a spectacular missing of the point.

[Papabendi]

Incredible how often we get done over with transfers. On running theme.

[Jakubclaret]

As ever, a spectacular missing of the point.

Please point out how relegation will make us a better selling point to the higher calibre player.

[ClaretTony]

Incredible how often we get done over with transfers. On running theme.

Every club does. It’s just that it’s not often as public as this.

[KRBFC]

Dinamo would look pretty silly if they allowed a deal to go through now after this morning’s announcement.

Money makes people look silly sometimes. How does the work permit stuff work? Do we need a work permit before the transfer deadline or can we get a work permit after the deadline providing details have been agreed?

[RVclaret]

Incredible how often we get done over with transfers. On running theme.

Just for perspective, Spurs got done over twice this week as Traore went to Barcelona and Diaz is set to sign for Liverpool at the last minute.

[KRBFC]

Agree. Let’s hope we have some back ups. Is the third ‘potential’ you mentioned before a midfielder?

It's Aaron Ramsey

[NewClaret]

Just for perspective, Spurs got done over twice this week as Traore went to Barcelona and Diaz is set to sign for Liverpool at the last minute.

Said the same thing to my son this earlier. It’s definitely not just us.

[ClaretTony]

Money makes people look silly sometimes. How does the work permit stuff work? Do we need a work permit before the transfer deadline or can we get a work permit after the deadline providing details have been agreed?

You would look a bit daft if you signed a player for whom you then didn’t get a work permit.

[bobinho]

Gutted, but what will be will be. We really need some luck atm.

We just have to get WW over the line and keep Tarks. That's the minimum now. Lingard on loan would be ideal and a swop to 343 of course.

Tarks is going nowhere. Never in doubt either. He’s off in the summer with a huge HUGE signing on fee that would normally have made up a transfer fee to us.

Oh. And Burnley will play 4, 4, effin 2. Sorry….

[willsclarets]

We've just stood still for years, and each window is more of a desperate struggle to get the right quality in. How time flies, it only feels like yesterday when we were lauding it over Brighton fans because we got Ashley Barnes on the cheap

[spt_claret]

Just for perspective, Spurs got done over twice this week as Traore went to Barcelona and Diaz is set to sign for Liverpool at the last minute.

Getting done over by Barca and Liverpool is somewhat different to getting done over by Zagreb and their hooligans.
I'm absolutely gutted by this. Striker (ideally 2), attacking midfielder/winger, and ball playing CM upgrade (ideally 2). We looked set for 2-3 of this, now at best 1.
I just hope it was the ultras rather than us messing around with upfront Vs instalments.
Lingard now looks much more necessary as a target.

[KRBFC]

You would look a bit daft if you signed a player for whom you then didn’t get a work permit.

I assumed there would be some kind of deal agreed ''providing he's granted a WP'' type thing which could then extend our deadline.

[RicardoMontalban]

I don’t know that much about transfers & I don’t claim to but with negotiating with the player for this long I don’t buy into the possibility that the club weren’t open to selling him at some point, somethings recently changed whether we weren’t offering enough money & the club got fed up with us or he was stringing us along in order to get a better deal from his current club, I don’t know. It’s 1 of them 2 possibilities.

For someone who claims to not know much about transfers you seem fairly confident in what’s caused this. And as ever it’s the club’s fault.

This looks like it’s been a fairly epic u-turn on Dinamo’s part. We may never know the reasons but once those fan pics appeared there definitely seemed a shift in stance from the Croatian side of things.

[Papabendi]

Every club does. It’s just that it’s not often as public as this.

Sorry, but we've been at this one for the best part of two weeks and it's been yanked a few days before the deadline. Why hasn't it been sorted before now? Naive from the club. It will only take a hiccup with our other target for this to be our most disastrous window yet (and that takes some doing).

[HahaYeah]

According to transfer expert Fabrizio Romano, Burnley are eager to finalise a deal for Ramsey before deadline day and the Serie A giants are open to let him leave.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... shman.html

[ClaretTony]

I assumed there would be some kind of deal agreed ''providing he's granted a WP'' type thing which could then extend our deadline.

I think there are clear criteria in terms of getting them and both Oršić & Weghorst are current internationals.

[quoonbeatz]

Please point out how relegation will make us a better selling point to the higher calibre player.

It wouldn't. What's that got to do with the post you replied to?

[thelaughingclaret]

Seems that Orsic has used us to get a better deal at Zagreb. Not the first time this has happened. He must be laughing right now. Don’t think for 1 minute he ever wanted to come to us, if he did he wouldn’t have signed a new contract with them. Played us like a fiddle.
If someone playing in Zagreb doesn’t want to come and play for us in the premier league, and if we can’t compete with croatian clubs on wages then it is worrying.

[jrgbfc]

It doesn't sound like Ramsey wants to come though.

[Colburn_Claret]

In real life '**** happens', no need to throw a wobbly, chuck your toys. Just accept it and move on.
It sounds very much like the problems occurred at the Zagreb end, and there is sod all AP or the club, could do to alter that.
They are prats for letting it go so long before the change of heart, but that is why you shouldn't celebrate until the ink is on the paper.
We should have had an alternative as back up, but again this falling through so late on, we could have taken our eye off the ball.

[Jakubclaret]

For someone who claims to not know much about transfers you seem fairly confident in what’s caused this. And as ever it’s the club’s fault.

This looks like it’s been a fairly epic u-turn on Dinamo’s part. We may never know the reasons but once those fan pics appeared there definitely seemed a shift in stance from the Croatian side of things.

Doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to work out what’s happened the club is up to its neck in debt & simply doesn’t have the financial clout to do successful business not with the targets we are targeting, if I’ve got £30 to spend on food shopping I swerve M&S & usually head towards farmfoods.

[willsclarets]

According to transfer expert Fabrizio Romano, Burnley are eager to finalise a deal for Ramsey before deadline day and the Serie A giants are open to let him leave.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... shman.html

They're desperate for him to leave, but he'd be taking a massive pay cut to join a relegation scrap from one of the biggest teams in Europe. It's a big blow to his ego and pocket. I suspect his agent will be holding out for something better. To be brutally Frank, he is better than us.

[RVclaret]

Seems that Orsic has used us to get a better deal at Zagreb. Not the first time this has happened. He must be laughing right now. Don’t think for 1 minute he ever wanted to come to us, if he did he wouldn’t have signed a new contract with them. Played us like a fiddle.
If someone playing in Zagreb doesn’t want to come and play for us in the premier league, and if we can’t compete with croatian clubs on wages then it is worrying.

Zagreb have NOT announced a new deal for Orsic. Just that he is staying for this season.

[Carport]

This to me smacks of the ultras having got to Orsic himself. It wouldn’t surprise me if he received threats but that is purely conjecture on my part!

[ClaretTony]

Seems that Orsic has used us to get a better deal at Zagreb. Not the first time this has happened. He must be laughing right now. Don’t think for 1 minute he ever wanted to come to us, if he did he wouldn’t have signed a new contract with them. Played us like a fiddle.
If someone playing in Zagreb doesn’t want to come and play for us in the premier league, and if we can’t compete with croatian clubs on wages then it is worrying.

I don’t see it that way at all. I read it as the club blocking the deal.

[Steddyman]

Agree. No going back. Move on.

What is it with people, has he hurt your feelings? Why waste the months of scouting we did to identify him as a player that is the right fit Burnley, then toss him aside when is move is blocked? We don't know why they blocked his move for sure, but likely related to the Ultras and not entirely his decison.

We should identify a short term loan now and still move for him in the summer.

[Spijed]

Doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to work out what’s happened the club is up to its neck in debt & simply doesn’t have the financial clout to do successful business not with the targets we are targeting, if I’ve got £30 to spend on food shopping I swerve M&S & usually head towards farmfoods.

So you don't think we'll get Weghorst then?

[Papabendi]

I don’t see it that way at all. I read it as the club blocking the deal.

Yesterday we could relax and don't believe everything you read. The time this was taking stood out to me as an issue. It was becoming very protracted.

[RicardoMontalban]

Doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to work out what’s happened the club is up to its neck in debt & simply doesn’t have the financial clout to do successful business not with the targets we are targeting, if I’ve got £30 to spend on food shopping I swerve M&S & usually head towards farmfoods.

Certainly one interpretation

[ClaretPete001]

What is it with people, has he hurt your feelings? Why waste the months of scouting we did to identify him as a player that is the right fit Burnley, then toss him aside when is move is blocked? We don't know why they blocked his move for sure, but likely related to the Ultras and not entirely his decison.

We should identify a short term loan now and still move for him in the summer.

Is that the case though...?

The policy of the club was to buy younger in order to retain value in the player. There is a reason why clubs are wanting to move on 30 year old players and it is because their value depreciates to zero with the length of the contract.

The club is storing up even more problems for itself if 29/30/31 year old players are their long term scouting objective.

I suppose the more rationale explanation is that this was quite unexpected and someone has leaked it to the media. It has then played out in the media because the timelines have been difficult for all parties - it being mid season etc.

[NewClaret]

What is it with people, has he hurt your feelings? Why waste the months of scouting we did to identify him as a player that is the right fit Burnley, then toss him aside when is move is blocked? We don't know why they blocked his move for sure, but likely related to the Ultras and not entirely his decison.

We should identify a short term loan now and still move for him in the summer.

I’m disappointed but the reason is that we’ve been done over. I don’t believe it’s on Orsic’s side, because why wouldn’t someone want a shot at the Prem at his age, but let’s also be realistic that yesterday he shot a “I’m staying” video when he could have pushed for the move to happen. On that basis, I think it’s a case of move on, in my opinion. Let’s look again and try and find players who really want to be here.

What’s to say we won’t get messed around again in summer?

[Jakubclaret]

Certainly one interpretation

When you are willing selling your best striker without getting into the release clause argument again & missing out on targets & being linked with the andy Carroll’s of this world it doesn’t look good, the clubs in a really bad shape in a financial sense because of the debt that’s been loaded, in an ideal world you would want owners just buying outright with their own capital or least a bigger cash injection but that’s another debate for another thread.

[BobSykes]

Would really cap off a shite Clarets weekend if Orsic pops up at Newcastle now on Monday... in no way am I suggesting that's possible but it would be the cherry!

[Steddyman]

Well, one thing this episode has shown, is that we are now able to identify foreign talent which bodes well for the summer. At least if we remain in the Premier League.

[Spijed]

being linked with the andy Carroll’s of this world it doesn’t look good

But we are likely to sign a clear upgrade on Chris Wood.

[onewillieirvine]

Good job this board wasn't about in the 60's I don't think we paid money for a player from Alex Elder in 1959 to Frank Casper in 1967 I've got faith in Mr Pace to come up with the goods.