January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Lancasterclaret]

Yes but, we are still a boat without the right paddles and we are heading down the river!

What do you want them to do?

Orsic was a player who would defo improve us, probably a lot better than we have already, and it would have been a huge coup to get him

They did everything they could, and the player had a change of heart, despite having the chance to play in the premier league (his dream apparently) and a doubling of wages

Seriously, what else could we do?

[Wokingclaret]

What do you want them to do?

Orsic was a player who would defo improve us, probably a lot better than we have already, and it would have been a huge coup to get him

They did everything they could, and the player had a change of heart, despite having the chance to play in the premier league (his dream apparently) and a doubling of wages

Seriously, what else could we do?

I'm sure they did, but we've left it all too late to recover from a big disappointment. Unless a rabbit comes out of the bag, it's probably cost us.

[Jakubclaret]

Any players change of heart is largely dictated by money if you offer enough money the change of heart pulls off into the opposite direction.

[HahaYeah]

Rabbits come out of hats - It's cats that come out of bags

[Hedontplayforyou]

Was looking forward to seeing him against Watford , hopefully the board have more targets lined up. Do you think this is completely over Tony?

[BurnleyFC]

Im not going to get worked up about some bloke i had never heard of until 2 weeks ago.

Plenty of players have turned us down in the last 10 years, not many have done much better.

This is a good point. I’d never heard of him either until a few weeks ago.

As for the Zagreb ‘Ultras’ pulling the strings and calling the shots, give me strength.

[ClaretTony]

Was looking forward to seeing him against Watford , hopefully the board have more targets lined up. Do you think this is completely over Tony?

I’d be amazed if it wasn’t given the announcement from Dinamo.

[jedi_master]

We all just need to accept this, there’s no point dwelling in the slightest.

I’m confident we had a Plan B.

[kendalianclaret]

I'm sure they did, but we've left it all too late to recover from a big disappointment. Unless a rabbit comes out of the bag, it's probably cost us.

How have we left it to late, when they pulled the plug today.

[Lancasterclaret]

I'm sure they did, but we've left it all too late to recover from a big disappointment. Unless a rabbit comes out of the bag, it's probably cost us.

"We've left it too late"

We are not at fault here. We had him in the bag, and he changed his mind

Now unless someone showed him a pic of someone chucking up under the culvert, we are blameless here

[Conroy92]

Very disappointing but can't blame Burnley. Focus on getting WW over the line and a CM. Would love to see us make a big move for Fofana.

[Hedontplayforyou]

I’d be amazed if it wasn’t given the announcement from Dinamo.

Presumably Alan and co will be running round frantically now looking for alternatives , it was looking rather positive too I must say.

Beyond the realms of possibility that they’ve tried to get more money from us or structure the deal better, or indeed play him tomorrow ….or is that clutching at straws

[Wokingclaret]

Not laying any blame, but only two and a half days for Plan B to kick in. Tick Tick

[kentonclaret]

We all just need to accept this, there’s no point dwelling in the slightest.

I’m confident we had a Plan B.

Let's hope so. Even Boris had a Plan B.

[Woodleyclaret]

Our chairman had done well do far ,he could not have predicted the player bottling at the last minute. Alan was a Wall Street trader this won't faze him and we will move to new targets

[Somethingfishy]

Under normal circumstances yes. We are dealing with a Balkan mentality here. Fiercely loyal kind of people. He's a Croatian playing for a Croatian club. You'd think with him doubling his wages it is a no brainer but I'm not sure in this case. I just don't think it is as cut and dried as we were previously made to believe.

I sensed it yesterday. Knew it was coming with the time it was taking.

[mkmel]

Yes, but our Ultras were sitting in the Bob Lord stand drinking cocoa.

[Lancasterclaret]

The huge positive from this is there won't be any threads suggesting he plays left back or centre half

[ClaretTony]

I sensed it yesterday. Knew it was coming with the time it was taking.

Didn’t appear people at the club did

[BurnleyFC]

Our chairman had done well do far ,he could not have predicted the player bottling at the last minute. Alan was a Wall Street trader this won't faze him and we will move to new targets

I don’t personally blame Alan Pace, but whether he was a successful Wall Street trader or not is irrelevant when it comes to football.

More successful businessmen than Alan Pace have failed when it comes to owning a sports team.

[Indecisive]

Started this January expecting very little…

This week found myself actually getting a bit excited about football again…

Now preparing myself for no new players…

Think it’s the hope that kills you

[ClaretTony]

Our chairman had done well do far ,he could not have predicted the player bottling at the last minute. Alan was a Wall Street trader this won't faze him and we will move to new targets

With no disrespect but I’m not sure Wall St and dealing with transfer windows are quite the same. Pace admitted to being shocked a year ago at the involvement of agents.

[ClaretTony]

Started this January expecting very little…

This week found myself actually getting a bit excited about football again…

Now preparing myself for no new players…

Think it’s the hope that kills you

I don’t think the window will close without at least one signing.

[RVclaret]

I don’t think the window will close without at least one signing.

One signing (if it’s Weghorst) just isn’t good enough unfortunately and we will be relegated.

[Wokingclaret]

I don’t think the window will close without at least one signing.

Sadly, one won't be enough.

[Firthy]

I don’t think the window will close without at least one signing.

Not sure a straight replacement for Wood will be enough to keep us up. At least we'll have Cornet back but neither will improve our midfield problems and lack of pace. Time to pull that rabbit out of the hat.

[Paul Waine]

Our chairman had done well do far ,he could not have predicted the player bottling at the last minute. Alan was a Wall Street trader this won't faze him and we will move to new targets

I'm pretty sure Alan Pace never sat on a trading desk. Yes, he has many years experience as an investment banker, but not as a trader. I'm sure that his experience will have included some deals "getting away from him" when he was on the point of closing the deal.

Pity Orsic has got away from Burnley on this occasion. It's a big positive that we have a chairman who is prepared to pursue these deals.

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[Lancasterclaret]

I'm not sure that we have a viable back up plan this late in the day

I don't think I can repeat this enough, everything was done, and the player had a change of heart

[Boss Hogg]

I don’t think just one signing will improve us enough to prevent the drop. Replacing Wood is one thing but we desperately need creativity and above all an improved CM.

[IWOODLOVETT]

Given the press releases, it seems that the stumbling block was his availability. We wanted the player immediately but DZ wanted his help to win their league and preserve their Euro status. This would appease their sinister Ultra fanbase, who would probably accept the player leaving in the summer.
I wonder if any sort of agreement was reached for Burnley to have first refusal on a transfer then (if we survive the drop).

[Papabendi]

Didn’t appear people at the club did

you have summed up part of the problem.

[RVclaret]

I'm not sure that we have a viable back up plan this late in the day

I don't think I can repeat this enough, everything was done, and the player had a change of heart

Well it isn’t really clear yet, according to CT’s sources it’s a rug pull by Dinamo after everything was agreed. Others have suggested a change of heart from the player.

Agree after spending so much time on this deal to get it so advanced I doubt we have another anywhere near close.

[ClaretTony]

One signing (if it’s Weghorst) just isn’t good enough unfortunately and we will be relegated.

I was only responding to a post suggesting there would be none. I never suggested it would be good enough.

When the window opened I was hoping for more than swapping a Premier League proven goalscorer for a striker who hasn’t played in England previously. At best really it leaves us where we were when it opened.

I hoping we can at least get the third one in before Monday night but it’s looking a push now I would think.

[tiger76]

Any players change of heart is largely dictated by money if you offer enough money the change of heart pulls off into the opposite direction.

By all accounts he would have received higher wages at Burnley, so what this is down to I don't think it's purely about money.

And it appears AP did everything he could to get this one over the line, these things happen time to move onto other targets.

[Funkydrummer]

If the club have pulled it under pressure from the fans, then I would have thought the player
would be pretty aggrieved, not to say disgruntled. Which club would want a player on their
books who didn't want to be there ? You can't really force a player to play to his utmost ability
for you if he doesn't want to be there.

On the other hand, if the player has pulled the plug that's a different story altogether.

[ClaretTony]

Well it isn’t really clear yet, according to CT’s sources it’s a rug pull by Dinamo after everything was agreed. Others have suggested a change of heart from the player.

Agree after spending so much time on this deal to get it so advanced I doubt we have another anywhere near close.

It was my thought from the way it was announced that it was the club’s decision, not from any sources, but subsequent info suggests otherwise.

[Newcastleclaret93]

One signing (if it’s Weghorst) just isn’t good enough unfortunately and we will be relegated.

Yep we needed an absolute minimum of two before we sold Wood.

Just signing Weghorst effectively take us to where we were before the window started.

Not good enough at all

[RVclaret]

By all accounts he would have received higher wages at Burnley, so what this is down to I don't think it's purely about money.

And it appears AP did everything he could to get this one over the line, these things happen time to move onto other targets.

Therein lies the problem, are there really ‘other targets’ at this late stage?

[Papabendi]

If the club have pulled it under pressure from the fans, then I would have thought the player
would be pretty aggrieved, not to say disgruntled. Which club would want a player on their
books who didn't want to be there ? You can't really force a player to play to his utmost ability
for you if he doesn't want to be there.

On the other hand, if the player has pulled the plug that's a different story altogether.

If the club is under instruction from the fans, then surely no one good ever leaves. Must be a dream to a fan of such a club.

[NewClaret]

Well it isn’t really clear yet, according to CT’s sources it’s a rug pull by Dinamo after everything was agreed. Others have suggested a change of heart from the player.

Agree after spending so much time on this deal to get it so advanced I doubt we have another anywhere near close.

I suppose the “AP travels to Croatia” stories (if true) would suggest it was the player that changed their mind and he travelled to try to persuade him. I can’t see why he’d travel if the club were being stubborn.

That said, if it were the players choice I can’t see why they would not say so. The statement reads much more as though it was a club decision.

I agree though, highly I’ll likely we were pursuing other options if this deal were as finalised as we expected.

[NewClaret]

Yep we needed an absolute minimum of two before we sold Wood.

Just signing Weghorst effectively take us to where we were before the window started.

Not good enough at all

An upgraded position I would say. But yes, I do think we need more than that in reality.

[tiger76]

Therein lies the problem, are there really ‘other targets’ at this late stage?

Well if we don't then that would be remiss, as deals can and often do fall through, so it's usually wise to have a back-up option just in case.

The next few days will tell us all we need to know, but as fans we have to hope something develops.

[Indecisive]

I don’t think the window will close without at least one signing.

Yeah I guess the other one looks likely. Can’t help feeling like we’ve had the rug pulled though.

It looks like a good replacement at half the price… but again it’s if we can get it over the line.

We really could do with a creative player coming in, but bar the Ramsey link, i just can’t see where it’s going to come from.

Will be there behind the team next week whatever the next couple of days brings.

[elwaclaret]

There is still the possibility that the club wanted him for Sunday and this is a smokescreen, until after the game, but it’s unlikely.

The team over there must be pulling theit hair out with frustration, but if it’s dead, there is no time to morn; we still need another to fill the same gap.

I’ve been quiet on this but really expected this one to happen after getting so close. Next.

[claptrappers_union]

It looks like it’s one of those where the timing just wasn’t right. Player was open to the move, club open to sell, but with a title challenge in focus, they want to keep him… for now.

I dont think we’ve heard the last of Orsic

[ClaretAL]

Pretty much what we already know but more on Ramsey

https://insidefutbol.com/2022/01/29/bur ... on/546672/

[ElectroClaret]

I don’t think just one signing will improve us enough to prevent the drop.

I'm bloody sure it won't.
CM needs reinforcing desperately, or we'll start next season in the Championship.

[RVclaret]

Yep we needed an absolute minimum of two before we sold Wood.

Just signing Weghorst effectively take us to where we were before the window started.

Not good enough at all

And with our games piling up from here on its a guarantee we pick up a few knocks from being unable to rotate. We also know another injury to Cornet makes us look like a league one team. It’s now desperate that we bring in at least 1, ideally 2 as well as Wood’s replacement.

[williamjblazkowicz]

Real shame to see this fall through but certainly looks like we've tried everything we can to get it to happen. If Orsic would have doubled his wages coming to us (combined with the opportunity of PL football) and he or his club say no then what can we do? I would hope that with the expansion of our scouting network that we have multiple targets, obviously ordered by preference. There have been stories in the media that we "missed out" on Carroll (lol). While I believe we may have had some interest, he was likely not our top choice and, he knowing that, opted to commit elsewhere. Let's hope that we have other players we like that we can make late bids for. A lot of activity doesn't happen until the last 24-48 hours of the window. You never know.

[Papabendi]

Well if we don't then that would be remiss, as deals can and often do fall through, so it's usually wise to have a back-up option just in case.

The next few days will tell us all we need to know, but as fans we have to hope something develops.

Two options. You set a deadline for completion with the aim of giving yourself enough time to move on if it fails. Or you let the opportunity run its course and run other opportunities simultaneously. It remains to be seen if we have at least done the latter.