January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[RicardoMontalban]

The level of delusion is astounding if we can’t broker a deal with Andy Carroll’s wage demands

At this point it’s pretty clear your devotion to alternative facts is actually deliberate.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

The level of delusion is astounding if we can’t broker a deal with Andy Carroll’s wage demands how the hell are any terms going to be acceptable to whatever Ramsey wants.

Yeh we are all gutted we ‘didn’t meet’ Carroll’s wage demands!

[RVclaret]

League one team? Really?

Our points per game without Cornet is 0.4 and goals per game 0.3 (or there or there abouts). We’ve been really poor when he’s been injured, take Norwich at home / Newcastle away for example.

[Elizabeth]

We will get over this morning’s disappointing news once the sudden change in developments sinks in. Hopefully to be replaced with good news over the next 2-3 days.

[ClaretTony]

The level of delusion is astounding if we can’t broker a deal with Andy Carroll’s wage demands how the hell are any terms going to be acceptable to whatever Ramsey wants.

What makes you think we even made an offer for Carroll?

[Papabendi]

The club missed a trick in not bringing back Clive Holt on retainer to get this deal over the line. I'm led to believe he's fluent in Croatian which would have helped no end

Big number required on the rider

[clarethomer]

The more I read that he’s reluctant to join, wants a move to Palace, etc. the less I want him anyway.

I’d rather we go with players who want to be here. It could be toxic to introduce some who don’t.

We had all these stories with Cornet. He was off to the bundesliega because that was his preference etc.

I wish people would stop taking everything at face value when it comes to the media. Sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong.

If he comes, he wants to be here and if he doesn’t come, then we won’t have a player who doesn’t want to be here.

[Wokingclaret]

One thing I will say, these two deals have been too in the open, we've left it open for other clubs to bid or a change of heart.

Aston Villa seem to do it well, nothing and then announce


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[Jakubclaret]

What makes you think we even made an offer for Carroll?

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[ClaretTony]

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[ClaretTony]

One thing I will say, these two deals have been too in the open, we've left it open for other clubs to bid or a change of heart.

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Rarely can you keep a deal quiet now although we've done well with the Weghorst move, that only came to light in the last few days.

[Lancasterclaret]

One thing I will say, these two deals have been too in the open, we've left it open for other clubs to bid or a change of heart.

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More to do with Villa not having to worry about money that

[ClaretTony]

More to do with Villa not having to worry about money that

I don't think so

[Paul Waine]

I just hope Weghorst isn't already reading some of the comments on here about is possible inclusion in the Burnley squad, ie not an improvement on Wood, not good enough, (maybe you mean the clubs business isn't) but remember he isn't English and might not understand the meaning exactly, or we may discourage him from signing then we will really be back at square one minus Wood.
I think the negativity towards the club by some posters is terrible, but in fairness if we signed Ronaldo the same posters would be complaining that we hadn't signed Sane and Mane as well.
I am sure if the moaners want to invest there own money in these signings i'm sure the club would be happy to accept, lets let them get on with their business and understand that these disappointments do happen onwards and upwards with the Clarets.

Hi kendalian, Wout Weghorst is Dutch. Nearly all the Dutch speak English. I'm sure WW will find it very easy to understand what's being posted on this mb. The only thing that might confuse, a little, is the occasional typo and "unconventional" grammar.

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[Milltown1882]

Rumours Alan is keeping the interest in Croatia and going for Kristijan Lovrić. 26, 1 cap for Croatia.

[Paul Waine]

Nearly 5000 posts, 100 pages and not one signing, amazing

As a group the posters on here have become remarkably proficient at filling the pages. Nothing more.

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[Lancasterclaret]

Rumours Alan is keeping the interest in Croatia and going for Kristijan Lovrić. 26, 1 cap for Croatia.

Yeah, but not sure if the source is anything to write home about though

I guess it could be true, he was linked with Celtic last year but nothing more than that

[jedi_master]

Rumours Alan is keeping the interest in Croatia and going for Kristijan Lovrić. 26, 1 cap for Croatia.

If you go to the shop for a loaf of bread but forget what you went for and bring back a tube of Pringles, you have a better evening than you would have done with the bread.

[RVclaret]

Will Lancaster on twitter reckons Orsic turned us down because of the worry he wouldn’t fit the 4-4-2 role and doesn’t care about money. Not buying that.

[KRBFC]

The only issue is why has it taken 29 days for Orsic deal to be close to completed? send the 10 million bid for him on January 1st and we aren't in this position. Why is Pace flying to Croatia on January 29th and not the first week of January?

Do we just get strung along by clubs for 4 weeks? put 10 million euros on the table and give them a 2 week deadline otherwise we move onto another target.

[CaptainKirk]

This is doing my head in!!!!!!!!
Finding myself having a look every few minutes to see if anything is confirmed yet but just seeing page after page of nothing!
Getting more and more convinced that neither will ever sign

Only half believed it at the time but now preparing myself for the crushing disappointment that will come with an entire window resulting in an even smaller squad than we started with.

[ClaretTony]

Will Lancaster on twitter reckons Orsic turned us down because of the worry he wouldn’t fit the 4-4-2 role and doesn’t care about money. Not buying that.

I think people are just making things up now

[Milltown1882]

The only issue is why has it taken 29 days for Orsic deal to be close to completed? send the 10 million bid for him on January 1st and we aren't in this position. Why is Pace flying to Croatia on January 29th and not the first week of January?

Do we just get strung along by clubs for 4 weeks? put 10 million euros on the table and give them a 2 week deadline otherwise we move onto another target.

Look at the clubs across the division it’s always like this. There should either be no transfer window or it should be a short period of time like a week.

[RicardoMontalban]

As a group the posters on here have become remarkably proficient at filling the pages. Nothing more.

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On a message board, fancy that! In fairness there has been plenty to discuss, if not celebrate.

[Roosterbooster]

Will Lancaster on twitter reckons Orsic turned us down because of the worry he wouldn’t fit the 4-4-2 role and doesn’t care about money. Not buying that.

My neighbour's dog reckons Mrs Dyche overcooked the omelette

[KRBFC]

Look at the clubs across the division it’s always like this. There should either be no transfer window or it should be a short period of time like a week.

I don't care about other clubs, I'm talking specifically Burnley, why the last minute rush around? I can understand being patient in the long summer window but we're absolutely desperate for strengthening with our PL lives on the line and it takes us 4 weeks to finally put 10 million euros on the table.....

[Rowls]

Doesn't the Queen post on a thread once it gets to 100 pages?

[KRBFC]

let Orsic turn us down 2 weeks ago, fine but what now? we look ****** with the same fans making the same excuses when it was Lansbury or was it Dorrans, Stephens, Bryson (and we were relegated with no adequate cover for Marney who did his ACL).

[Culmclaret]

….Burnley and transfer windows: the triumph of hope over experience

[HahaYeah]

A few drama queens have been posting long before that.

[Quickenthetempo]

The Croatian journalist suggested he was giving his info to Will Lancaster and Alex James to report over here.

[Aclaret]

Doesn't the Queen post on a thread once it gets to 100 pages?

No but she may like a post !

[jedi_master]

let Orsic turn us down 2 weeks ago, fine but what now? we look ****** with the same fans making the same excuses when it was Lansbury or was it Dorrans, Stephens, Bryson (and we were relegated with no adequate cover for Marney who did his ACL).

You need to let the window play out before killing the club.

If the situation looks the same close of play Monday, you’ll have everyone on board with your opinion.

I like to think we have a Plan B to Orsic, the club isn’t under the same management (for better AND worse) that it was during the previous transfer window fiascos. If Pace starts firing up a fax machine now, fair play he deserves the criticism that will be coming his way, let’s just see what happens first.

[Lancasterclaret]

You need to let the window play out before killing the club.

If the situation looks the same close of play Monday, you’ll have everyone on board with your opinion.

I like to think we have a Plan B to Orsic, the club isn’t under the same management (for better AND worse) that it was during the previous transfer window fiascos. If Pace starts firing up a fax machine now, fair play he deserves the criticism that will be coming his way, let’s just see what happens first.

If we sign no one, then yeah

The reality isn't matching the rhetoric spread by far too many posters (including sensible ones) but we do need to bring in at least one more wide man*

*that is assuming that Weghorst is coming

[LaLigaClaret]

Rumours Alan is keeping the interest in Croatia and going for Kristijan Lovrić. 26, 1 cap for Croatia.

Hope this is a possibility. Lovric right forward left winger or other forward positions. Free scoring. Aged 26 Celtic and Dynamo Kiev interested last summer but wouldn't pay fee of £3.5m. Kiev no longer interested and Celtic bought someone else. Not linked with other clubs as far as I am aware.

[KRBFC]

You need to let the window play out before killing the club.

If the situation looks the same close of play Monday, you’ll have everyone on board with your opinion.

I like to think we have a Plan B to Orsic, the club isn’t under the same management (for better AND worse) that it was during the previous transfer window fiascos. If Pace starts firing up a fax machine now, fair play he deserves the criticism that will be coming his way, let’s just see what happens first.

I do not care about nearly signings and excuses(we've all heard before), to date we've sold our main striker for £25m and have 1 potential incoming likely. If only fans making excuses gave us league points, we'd be fighting top 4.

I went to bed excited and guess what, it's the same old same old, we've seen it all before.

[jedi_master]

If we sign no one, then yeah

The reality isn't matching the rhetoric spread by far too many posters (including sensible ones) but we do need to bring in at least one more wide man*

*that is assuming that Weghorst is coming

If Weghorst doesn’t sign then it’s a disaster, so I’m taking that as a given. Orsic was always a ‘nice to have’ in comparison to a proper replacement number 9. It is vital he is sorted immediately.

The team needs some craft and guile though, which Orsic would have provided. It might now be loans only bar Weghorst, which I’m personally fine with - they just need to be the right ones.

If we signed Weghorst permanently and then got the likes of Ramsey and Origi on loan (to allow us to push Cornet wide) then we’d be laughing.

[Lancasterclaret]

If Weghorst doesn’t sign then it’s a disaster, so I’m taking that as a given. Orsic was always a ‘nice to have’ in comparison to a proper replacement number 9. It is vital he is sorted immediately.

The team needs some craft and guile though, which Orsic would have provided. It might now be loans only bar Weghorst, which I’m personally fine with - they just need to be the right ones.

If we signed Weghorst permanently and then got the likes of Ramsey and Origi on loan (to allow us to push Cornet wide) then we’d be laughing.

I'm more gutted about Orsic than I would be about Weghorst tbh

But just Weghorst wouldn't be a disaster, but it wouldn't be great

Thing is, at this stage, that is what we have to prepare ourselves for

[RVclaret]

Di Marzio on SSN again just mentioned negotiations are ongoing between Juve and Burnley for Ramsey.

[Pearcey]

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[tiger76]

The level of delusion is astounding if we can’t broker a deal with Andy Carroll’s wage demands how the hell are any terms going to be acceptable to whatever Ramsey wants.

Were we ever interested in Carroll? and I'm sure if we'd have genuinely wanted him we'd have signed him, but don't let that stop you making up stuff it's amusing to read.

Regarding AR not for me, too long in the tooth, and too much doubt over his fitness, we need guys who can play straight away.

[Selby Claret]

Lovric seems unlikely on the basis that his wife plays in Croatia too - unless we sign them both….

Money does tend to talk

[Pearcey]

I’m not selling this yet just in case……..

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[LaLigaClaret]

Were we ever interested in Carroll? and I'm sure if we'd have genuinely wanted him we'd have signed him, but don't let that stop you making up stuff it's amusing to read.

Regarding AR not for me, too long in the tooth, and too much doubt over his fitness, we need guys who can play straight away.

I think we were interested but only as a back up to getting another main striker but agree with you I think he would get injured in a heartbeat, only come on in a cameo role, not good enough for the PL and I'm glad we didn't sign him.

[Top Claret]

Plan A, plan B. Burnley now looking at another Croatia player.
Lets not sign any old Tom, Dick or Harry just for the sake of it

[Pearcey]

Plan A, plan B. Burnley now looking at another Croatia player.
Lets not sign any old Tom, Dick or Harry just for the sake of it

I suspect our scouts looked at a number of players in Croatia if they were out there. I’m not sure the link to Lovric is strong though.

[ClaretTony]

I think we were interested but only as a back up to getting another main striker but agree with you I think he would get injured in a heartbeat, only come on in a cameo role, not good enough for the PL and I'm glad we didn't sign him.

I think when Wood went we extended the list of potential strikers and added some for short term, as you would in January. I believe he was a long way down the list.

[Top Claret]

Hi kendalian, Wout Weghorst is Dutch. Nearly all the Dutch speak English. I'm sure WW will find it very easy to understand what's being posted on this mb. The only thing that might confuse, a little, is the occasional typo and "unconventional" grammar.

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Unconventional grammar

Thats to throw him of the scent then he doesn't know we think that he's a donkey

[KlyBfc]

Today is the reason I didn’t allow myself to get excited by Orsic or even watch the clips about him . Whilst I fully understand that transfers are a difficult thing to complete due to the different variables involved (non more so than humans). It seems / feels that this happens a lot to our club. Maybe it’s more common than I realise (I’m sure it is) but as Burnley fan it really is frustrating and disheartening. It feels an almost regular occurrence.

The facts are as it stands the team bottom of the league is a lot weaker than it was at the start of the transfer window. In my opinion we needed a minimum of 2 midfielders and 1 striker prior to Wood leaving to have a fighting chance of staying up. Instead with a little over 2 days left we have gained non and lost 1.

[Gordaleman]

I only have the same information as everyone else out there that journalists are saying.

Even you must be concerned that it took 6 days to negotiate a £7m deal that ended in failure.

6 days for a small deal when we have just had 25m given to us upfront.

Of course I'm concerned but that doesn't mean I go around spreading unproven hearsay and blaming the club, when it's clear that Burnley and Alan Pace in particular, tried very hard to get it over the line.