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Post by Mala591 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:06 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:00 pm
I watched Cornet’s movement against Egypt and aligned with the fact that we already know that he can finish he looked like a centre forward to me
His coming short and hold up and link play is good
Sometimes he comes short and then peels off and goes in to the space he caused behind
His runs in behind are well timed rarely goes offside and he finds space as shown by the goals he’s scored for us
I agree, Cornet’s best position for Burnley FC is up front (alongside Weghorst)
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Post by Steddyman » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:08 pm

Why move Cornet out wide when he is bagging an average of 1 a game in attack? Makes no sense.
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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:10 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:08 pm
Why move Cornet out wide when he is bagging an average of 1 a game in attack? Makes no sense.
Doesn’t really seem comfortable or natural there. Scored an equal amount ‘per game’ when wide left and feel he’s better running at players. We haven’t really the side of his game yet to create chances for others. Point is if we signed Origi and Weghorst (purely speculating here) then you’ve got two natural goal scorers and strikers there. Cornet played most of his football for Lyon when he scored/assisted wide right.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:12 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:08 pm
Why move Cornet out wide when he is bagging an average of 1 a game in attack? Makes no sense.
I’m not sure people are factoring in the fact that a wide man for Burnley will spend most of his time tracking back and may not get into forward central positions
When you are mainly a provider that can work
If you’ve got a goal touch that’s a waste

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Post by summitclaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:53 am
Given Pace was adamant that he wanted Dyche to sign a new long term contract as manager, I’m not sure why you think he would now want a system change.
One win in 22 and overrun in cm most games maybe?

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Post by summitclaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:53 am
Given Pace was adamant that he wanted Dyche to sign a new long term contract as manager, I’m not sure why you think he would now want a system change.
One win in 22 and overrun in cm most games maybe? Plus hardly any strikers.

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Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:16 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:10 pm
Doesn’t really seem comfortable or natural there. Scored an equal amount ‘per game’ when wide left and feel he’s better running at players. We haven’t really the side of his game yet to create chances for others. Point is if we signed Origi and Weghorst (purely speculating here) then you’ve got two natural goal scorers and strikers there. Cornet played most of his football for Lyon when he scored/assisted wide right.
Can't see why we'd sign Origi and Weghorst, seemingly if the latter arrives we're no longer interested in the former.

Regarding Cornet we need to ensure he's in the game as much as possible, whether that's wide or up top.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:17 pm

Thinking about it, I don’t see WW as a wood replacement because if you think about it, we never really replaced Vokes! He appears more in that type of mould than a wood.

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Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:53 am
Given Pace was adamant that he wanted Dyche to sign a new long term contract as manager, I’m not sure why you think he would now want a system change.
Apart from anything else we don't have the players to play any other way. The way you get the most out of a limited budget is not to try and compete like for like but try and buy players who are expert within the system you have.

Otherwise you end up like Everton spending 100s of millions and ending up losing some of the biggest managerial names in football because they can't extract a tune from an orchestra comprised of drummers and banjo players.
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Post by LaLigaClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:19 pm

Wow just seen Dan Burn to Newcastle for £13m. Brighton have had Newcastles pants down with that one. I am not convinced Howe knows what he's doing which is good for us.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:21 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:10 pm
Doesn’t really seem comfortable or natural there. Scored an equal amount ‘per game’ when wide left and feel he’s better running at players. We haven’t really the side of his game yet to create chances for others. Point is if we signed Origi and Weghorst (purely speculating here) then you’ve got two natural goal scorers and strikers there. Cornet played most of his football for Lyon when he scored/assisted wide right.
I’ll give you that if we have 2 proper centre forwards and Cornet can be a goal scoring midfielder that’s a possibility
I can”t believe that we’d be lucky enough to have 2 centre forwards both bagging at this level in this run in
I’m working on the principle that he’s currently our biggest goal threat and if WW replaces Wood he’s the next option in a 442
If we go to different formations then there’s discussions to be had about other options

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Post by dermotdermot » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:21 pm

Whenever I hear the name Nixon, I always think of David Nixon. Does anyone else remember him? He was always pulling rabbits out of hats.
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Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:23 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:19 pm
Wow just seen Dan Burn to Newcastle for £13m. Brighton have had Newcastles pants down with that one. I am not convinced Howe knows what he's doing which is good for us.
Didn’t know much about Burn to be honest. I’ve just seen he’s 29 and I was expecting him to be a youngster!

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Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:23 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:56 am
Tony have you heard if anything else is on the horizon?

Can I stop refreshing Twitter every 10 mins
I would say going outside and interacting people without worrying what’s on the internet would probably do you some good.

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Post by dermotdermot » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:28 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:19 pm
Wow just seen Dan Burn to Newcastle for £13m. Brighton have had Newcastles pants down with that one. I am not convinced Howe knows what he's doing which is good for us.
Presumably that means that we won’t be losing Tarkowski in this window.

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Post by Bosscat » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:28 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:23 pm
I would say going outside and interacting people without worrying what’s on the internet would probably do you some good.
😂😂😂

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Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:29 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:23 pm
I would say going outside and interacting people without worrying what’s on the internet would probably do you some good.
:lol: I must admit, I did think yesterday what will these lot do when the window shuts

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Post by HahaYeah » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:29 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:21 pm
Whenever I hear the name Nixon, I always think of David Nixon. Does anyone else remember him? He was always pulling rabbits out of hats.
He was Basil Brush's buddy.

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Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:30 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:21 pm
Whenever I hear the name Nixon, I always think of David Nixon. Does anyone else remember him? He was always pulling rabbits out of hats.
Before my time so had to Google him, a magician by trade in the mould of Paul Daniels I guess.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:36 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:21 pm
Whenever I hear the name Nixon, I always think of David Nixon. Does anyone else remember him? He was always pulling rabbits out of hats.
That’s a long time ago

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Post by HahaYeah » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:37 pm

He was in black and white in our house.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:53 am
Given Pace was adamant that he wanted Dyche to sign a new long term contract as manager, I’m not sure why you think he would now want a system change.
I think you’re right
Although as we get better footballers, by which I mean we seem to be targeting better ball players rather than the strong physically & mentally British team player type of players then Dyche has the tools to adapt
The reason Dyche hasn’t been poached is that he’s tarred with the 442 long ball identity but he’s had no choice
Maybe he can adapt having more technical players at his disposal

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Post by KRBFC » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:38 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:19 pm
Wow just seen Dan Burn to Newcastle for £13m. Brighton have had Newcastles pants down with that one. I am not convinced Howe knows what he's doing which is good for us.
Not sure about that, good reliable experienced player is Dan Burn, done very well for Brighton.

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Post by dermotdermot » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:39 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:29 pm
He was Basil Brush's buddy.
I didn’t know that but, up to a point, you’re right. He first appeared on David Nixon’s show and apparently upstaged him to such an extent that he was given his own show. Well you learn something new every day.

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Post by enduroclaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:40 pm

I’m not expecting any transfer activity today.
The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints are pretty strict on working on Sundays.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:41 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:19 pm
Wow just seen Dan Burn to Newcastle for £13m. Brighton have had Newcastles pants down with that one. I am not convinced Howe knows what he's doing which is good for us.
Hard to work out the style of team Howe is trying to assemble
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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:42 pm

enduroclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:40 pm
I’m not expecting any transfer activity today.
The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints are pretty strict on working on Sundays.
We played last Sunday

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:42 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:38 pm
Not sure about that, good reliable experienced player is Dan Burn, done very well for Brighton.
If he’s better than they’ve already got which he is it’s an improvement for Newcastle & gives them the edge if he signs, I’m sure some people are purposely finding fault with Newcastles recruitment to feel better if we was in their position we would be doing everything we could to make sure it wasn’t us.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:43 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:42 pm
We played last Sunday
There you go again with Facts
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Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:44 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:42 pm
If he’s better than they’ve already got which he is it’s an improvement for Newcastle & gives them the edge if he signs, I’m sure some people are purposely finding fault with Newcastles recruitment to feel better if we was in their position we would be doing everything we could to make sure it wasn’t us.
There not the type of players, level or style that we were fearing they’d sign and Newcastle fans were hoping for or even expecting, though, are they

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:47 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:44 pm
There not the type of players, level or style that we were fearing they’d sign and Newcastle fans were hoping for or even expecting, though, are they
Any improvement is an improvement however incremental, in the position there are in they can’t attract too high of a calibre just yet.

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Post by Shaggy » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:50 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:38 pm
I think you’re right
Although as we get better footballers, by which I mean we seem to be targeting better ball players rather than the strong physically & mentally British team player type of players then Dyche has the tools to adapt
The reason Dyche hasn’t been poached is that he’s tarred with the 442 long ball identity but he’s had no choice
Maybe he can adapt having more technical players at his disposal
Dyche is a 4-4-2 long ball monger though. That’s his style the players he has signed targeted over a long period of time are what we have. Whether you like it or not that’s how it is.

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Post by LaLigaClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:51 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:42 pm
If he’s better than they’ve already got which he is it’s an improvement for Newcastle & gives them the edge if he signs, I’m sure some people are purposely finding fault with Newcastles recruitment to feel better if we was in their position we would be doing everything we could to make sure it wasn’t us.
Newcastle seemingly have lots of money but Burn is not worth £13m in my opinion. They originally bid £7m so there is clearly clubs adding a Newcastle premium going into valuations on players. They appear to be applying a scatter gun approach to their purchases and whilst they are adding numbers I am not convinced they will work together as a team.
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Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:53 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:21 pm
Whenever I hear the name Nixon, I always think of David Nixon. Does anyone else remember him? He was always pulling rabbits out of hats.
His assistant was Ali Bongo.

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Post by Shaggy » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:53 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:51 pm
Newcastle seemingly have lots of money but Burn is not worth £13m in my opinion. They originally bid £7m so there is clearly clubs adding a Newcastle premium going into valuations on players. They appear to be applying a scatter gun approach to their purchases and whilst they are adding numbers I am not convinced they will work together as a team.
The Harry redknapp approach. Keep signing players until it works

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Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:53 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:47 pm
Any improvement is an improvement however incremental, in the position there are in they can’t attract too high of a calibre just yet.
Agreed except that if you unsettle a group it works when a player is clearly worth his place, like Cornet for example.
So the team is still intact but with an obvious boost of quality
Chris Wood seemed odd and I’m not sure Burn is clearly better than they have, I’m not even fully convinced by Trippier, I know that’s blasphemy but defensively I’d rather have Roberts
Would Newcastle fans choose Wout Weghorst or Chris Wood
To me they’re getting a better squad but that doesn’t always equate to a better performing 11
They’d be wasting money if they didn’t have a limitless amount
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Post by Dodobdobodobo » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:54 pm

Looks like Joe Rothwell wants out of B******* and Cantwell from Norwich is on his way out of Carrow Road.
Wouldn’t mind either of these two or even both!!!

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Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:54 pm

Howe could sign Bonucci and Chiellini and play a system to make them look bad. Hopefully his woeful defensive organisation will carry on till the end of the season.

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Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:55 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:44 pm
There not the type of players, level or style that we were fearing they’d sign and Newcastle fans were hoping for or even expecting, though, are they
They'll have to build slowly though. They aren't going to attract the best players in the world in their current position.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:56 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:51 pm
Newcastle seemingly have lots of money but Burn is not worth £13m in my opinion. They originally bid £7m so there is clearly clubs adding a Newcastle premium going into valuations on players. They appear to be applying a scatter gun approach to their purchases and whilst they are adding numbers I am not convinced they will work together as a team.
If it gradually gets them out of trouble job done, you are probably right they are paying over the odds next season some will be moved on for the next stage of building, this season is all about survival for them nothing more. It’s a strategy paying over the odds to ensure PL retention it’s not guaranteed but it’s a gamble that can be afforded.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:02 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:50 pm
Dyche is a 4-4-2 long ball monger though.
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Post by LaLigaClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:03 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:56 pm
If it gradually gets them out of trouble job done, you are probably right they are paying over the odds next season some will be moved on for the next stage of building, this season is all about survival for them nothing more. It’s a strategy paying over the odds to ensure PL retention it’s not guaranteed but it’s a gamble that can be afforded.
Your right about what your saying but they have already spent £90m to date and next season they could still be in the Championship which would be an expensive disaster for them. Also if they are to attract even better players next season if they stay up they will have to spend astronomical amounts and move on a terrific number of players many of whom would be loss making. I think Howe will be gone if they don't start regularly winning. I am not convinced he actually has a true plan or vision going forward.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:04 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:29 pm
:lol: I must admit, I did think yesterday what will these lot do when the window shuts
Start a "Summer Window" thread.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:06 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:04 pm
Start a "Summer Window" thread.
They already have I’ve seen reference to us getting Orsic in the summer, if we stay up
If we stay up he can f@@k off

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:06 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:54 pm
Howe could sign Bonucci and Chiellini and play a system to make them look bad. Hopefully his woeful defensive organisation will carry on till the end of the season.
They looked pretty solid against us and Leeds to be fair?

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:09 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:03 pm
Your right about what your saying but they have already spent £90m to date and next season they could still be in the Championship which would be an expensive disaster for them. Also if they are to attract even better players next season if they stay up they will have to spend astronomical amounts and move on a terrific number of players many of whom would be loss making. I think Howe will be gone if they don't start regularly winning. I am not convinced he actually has a true plan or vision going forward.
We are talking about millionaires/billionaires here (not sure on exact wealth) who quite clearly don’t give a sh1t about spending money, I was reading up on them as well, for a variety of reasons they’ll be ok with FFP something to do with the dates & when the rules kick in & their turnover. This season & next season for them will be night & day I think.

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:09 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:06 pm
They looked pretty solid against us and Leeds to be fair?
It’s not like we caused them any bother to be honest. A couple of clean sheets don’t mask the fact that his managerial defensive record is dire. Maybe he’s learnt from his mistakes but that remains to be seen.

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:10 pm

Hypothetically
If we didn’t sign WW
and we now gave Newcastle £50 million for Trippier Wood & Burn would we be any more likely to stay up

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:11 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:21 pm
Whenever I hear the name Nixon, I always think of David Nixon. Does anyone else remember him? He was always pulling rabbits out of hats.
That’s a name to conjure with. :D
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