Cressida Dick.

[SalisburyClaret]

Let’s hope there’s a proper independent enquiry into her tenure and the corrupt organisation she presided over

[tiger76]

Let’s hope there’s a proper independent enquiry into her tenure and the corrupt organisation she presided over

Hmm! 2 hopes of that Bob Hope and no hope, mind you if she knows where the bodies are buried she could cause embarrassment to some in the establishment as Dominic Cummings is currently doing.

[Bordeauxclaret]

You do wonder just how right wing you have to be to think that Johnson is a green socialist buffoon

The kind with a posting history of Top Claret?

[what_no_pies]

I heard she's opening a detective agency with Ed Balls.

They're going to call it Cressida & Ed.

[joey13]

Bit of one thing and a lot of another. There is other news besides a birthday cake. Its not a possible imminenet Nuclear war is it exactly? Our Media seem to think so. I do agree though shocking from the PM.

If he lies about parties , what do you think he does about the important issues .

[aggi]

The mayor needs removing now.

Given that the alternative had to step down from the police and crime committee for breaching Coronavirus rules the other options are pretty limited.

[SalisburyClaret]

It’s a sad day for the Lion and the Wardrobe

[basil6345789]

I think London is almost impossible to police, so many gangs, so many people with mental health and other issues, international crime, a pathetic judiciary that looks as though it actually encourages crime, football gangs taking up resources especially on the underground. It is a cesspit of a city and I think beyond help.

Welcome to globalisation

[Lancasterclaret]

Oh good, the posters with the, er, "interesting" views on other races have arrived

[Quicknick]

I think London is almost impossible to police, so many gangs, so many people with mental health and other issues, international crime, a pathetic judiciary that looks as though it actually encourages crime, football gangs taking up resources especially on the underground. It is a cesspit of a city and I think beyond help.

I lived in London for almost 25 years in a high-crime area and despite being out and about most of the time, saw very little crime. I used the underground regularly and only once saw football fans misbehaving on it. I think London is a great place to live, about as far removed from your notion of ''a cesspit of a city'' as it's possible to be.

[IanMcL]

I wish Johnson would bloody go and be replaced by a proper Tory, not the green socialist buffon we have at the moment.

Now that would give you something to complain about Ian

[bfcjg]

I lived in London for almost 25 years in a high-crime area and despite being out and about most of the time, saw very little crime. I used the underground regularly and only once saw football fans misbehaving on it. I think London is a great place to live, about as far removed from your notion of ''a cesspit of a city'' as it's possible to be.

If you live in a high crime area but see very little crime it is either cyber crime or you subconsciously avoid streets hou know you'll get mugged or attacked on.
I was chatting with an M&E consultant last year who was moving his operation and family to Cheshire from London as he was sick of the crime in part. Perhaps I just take my opinion from what I see on tele, read in the paper and people I communicate with. I have just checked on line and London isn't in the top ten areas for crime so perhaps I should alter my jaundiced view.

[SouthLondonexile]

With the MET’s unbelievable timing to decide to investigate the parties at No10 - just before the Sue Gray report was due to be published suggests their interference in our democracy.
You may also recall they - Cressida Dick - said at first she could see no reason why the Gray report should not be published fully, then mysteriously changed her mind next day.
This led to the report being released with large parts of it missing, in order it was said that any future prosecutions would not be compromised.
This was a woman who claimed she would police without fear or favour in her decision making ;with regard to policing No 10 parties has been anything but that.
You may also recall that when the parties first came to light, the MET said there was insufficient evidence for them to investigate.
She has paid the price for being equivocal in this matter.

[SouthLondonexile]

And this is the reply I have been waiting for. If anyone knows what’s really going on, what’s really needed, it’s someone with boots on the ground.

Everyone seems hell bent on crucifying Dick, but a serving officer telling us that she’s decent should be enough for all of us shouldn’t it?

She may be a decent person but she is in charge of a police force who were given notice to change by the Macpherson report into the METs handling of the murder of Stephen Lawrence. We are still waiting for that change to the way it polices human beings from all walks of life in the capital.

[TsarBomba]

She may be a decent person but she is in charge of a police force who were given notice to change by the Macpherson report into the METs handling of the murder of Stephen Lawrence. We are still waiting for that change to the way it polices human beings from all walks of life in the capital.

How do we ‘police human beings from all walks of life’?

[evensteadiereddie]

"but a serving officer telling us that she’s decent should be enough for all of us shouldn’t it?"


Well, no, because pretending all is well has not helped , and will not help, the Met to change, improve and become a force to be proud of, will it ?
As many on here have said, CD may well be a decent person but some aspects of the MET have become an embarrassment on her watch.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Hopefully there will be less flashers joining the rank and file now

[evensteadiereddie]

How do we ‘police human beings from all walks of life’?

Well, for a start, you get rid of officers perpetuing a culture of racism and/or sexism and who think and act as if some human beings don't actually matter.

A copper nicknamed "The Rapist" by his buddies over his sexual preferences is allowed to carry on as an officer and put in a position where he can murder a young lass ?

You couldn't make it up.

[fatboy47]

How long does it actually take to ask a few people about a party and issue a fine?

Local plod did it here in a couple of days...strange that this is taking so long....or maybe not.

[evensteadiereddie]

"Would you please be kind enough to fill in a questionnaire concerning the Downing St. parties, honestly and with no conferring ?"

Ffs. Corrupt as well as incompetent.

[claretandbluesky]

Just love to see all the critics take on the role of police officer, a thankless and often dangerous task in a society that sees grievance everywhere, and where the cosy middle class legal profession does everything to make its job next to impossible.

[claretandbluesky]

It used to be social workers, then teachers but it is now the police that have the most thankless task of all. No way you can win in this victim oppressive culture. Everyone is firing at them. Shame they didn’t aim at the real culprits, the legal profession.

[nil_desperandum]

Just love to see all the critics take on the role of police officer, a thankless and often dangerous task in a society that sees grievance everywhere, and where the cosy middle class legal profession does everything to make its job next to impossible.

Not sure what that has to do with competence (or otherwise of Dame Dick.)
( Two close family members are in the Lancashire Constabulary, so I do understand the point you make)

[fatboy47]

Just love to see all the critics take on the role of police officer, a thankless and often dangerous task in a society that sees grievance everywhere, and where the cosy middle class legal profession does everything to make its job next to impossible.

It's the racists, homophobes, sexists and murderers amongst the police being criticised...it's not a generalisation....unlike your blanket assertion about the legal profession.

I'm not a fan of Jimmy Savile...but I don't hear all the other DJs bleating because he's been vilified.

[TsarBomba]

Well, for a start, you get rid of officers perpetuing a culture of racism and/or sexism and who think and act as if some human beings don't actually matter.

A copper nicknamed "The Rapist" by his buddies over his sexual preferences is allowed to carry on as an officer and put in a position where he can murder a young lass ?

You couldn't make it up.

Yep, officers face misconduct investigations and potential criminal proceedings if concerned in such behaviour. That has always been the case.

[Pearcey]

Old but gold!

https://youtu.be/9tsVJjE0qAw

[Lancasterclaret]

Just love to see all the critics take on the role of police officer, a thankless and often dangerous task in a society that sees grievance everywhere, and where the cosy middle class legal profession does everything to make its job next to impossible.

Or as its known to all us plebs, making sure that the laws are applied fairly to all

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Seems they will employ any Tom Dick or Harry

[rufus lumley]

Juliet Bravo could do a job down there.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Yep, officers face misconduct investigations and potential criminal proceedings if concerned in such behaviour. That has always been the case.

Sadly the one Eddie refers to who was known as “The Rapist” by former colleagues was accused of indecent exposure three times prior to murdering that poor girl.
It’s not difficult to see what people have little faith in the process.

[JohnMac]

A copper nicknamed "The Rapist" by his buddies over his sexual preferences is allowed to carry on as an officer and put in a position where he can murder a young lass ?

You couldn't make it up.

Genuine question - Do you believe that nickname would have been heard by Senior Officers? Would it have even been heard outside of a particular shift or group of similar ranked people?
.I don't know but suspect the failings may have been made by people other than Senior Officers.

Failings in vetting will likely be a non Police organisation, even the Armed Forces are outside of their recruiting process nowadays, it is contracted out to civilians.

[jos]

She probably is a decent person but has been completely ineffective. Her decision-making, going back to her leadership of the Brazilian lad's "accidental" execution operation all those years ago and up to the Met's current institutionalised racism, misogony, corruption and so on has been disastrous.

The latest attempt to shield Johnson just about sums her up.

Talk about stealing a wage...

https://open.spotify.com/track/3IZcaa5U ... nBpPAA8IlA

Couldn’t help thinking about this song referencing that sad incident.

[Billy Balfour]

She prevented the Sue Gray inquiry from being published in full by doing a massive volte-face and only a day or so before publication. No doubt she will be rewarded with a seat in the House of Lords. It's how it works in this bent country.

[Elizabeth]

I’m extremely concerned about political interference within policing. More so than I am about anything else.




It’s very easy too to criticise Cressida Dick over the murder of John Charles De Menezes.

So who is responsible for this terrible mistake in your opinion ?

[tiger76]

She prevented the Sue Gray inquiry from being published in full by doing a massive volte-face and only a day or so before publication. No doubt she will be rewarded with a seat in the House of Lords. It's how it works in this bent country.

Yep! and a gold plated pension to boot, all courtesy of the hard pressed tax payers as usual.

[Stayingup]

If he lies about parties , what do you think he does about the important issues .

I dont know do you? But a party. Is it a nuclear event? Is it buggery.

[LeadBelly]

I know it will be scoffed at because of the source but Daily Mail has an article headlined
"No wonder she's smiling! In line for a £575,000 payout and a £160,000-a-year taxpayer-funded pension pot, Cressida Dick gets set to put her feet up at her £1m country home and enjoy a leisurely life like her predecessor"

Not at all a bad outcome for somebody who appeared to make a lot of mistakes and presided over a big decline in the reputation of the Met. The reward for failure in the public sector is astonishing.

[Lowbankclaret]

I know it will be scoffed at because of the source but Daily Mail has an article headlined
"No wonder she's smiling! In line for a £575,000 payout and a £160,000-a-year taxpayer-funded pension pot, Cressida Dick gets set to put her feet up at her £1m country home and enjoy a leisurely life like her predecessor"

Not at all a bad outcome for somebody who appeared to make a lot of mistakes and presided over a big decline in the reputation of the Met. The reward for failure in the public sector is astonishing.

She and her family are never going to be poor, that’s for sure.

[mkmel]

Johnson has now been sent an email by the Met asking him for his account re the Parties.

And they have asked for it to be truthful

[Billy Balfour]

Not at all a bad outcome for somebody who appeared to make a lot of mistakes and presided over a big decline in the reputation of the Met. The reward for failure in the public sector is astonishing.

It's the same in the private sector too. Just look at the payoffs for failed CEOs. They go into the millions.

[bfcjg]

Johnson has now been sent an email by the Met asking him for his account re the Parties.

And they have asked for it to be truthful

Once upon a time a handsome tea total clean living PM was conned by some nasty people who pretended they were not having numerous parties and quizzes but they were. The PM went up to them and said stop what you are doing but they said why it's a work event and the shy PM believed them because he lived in a world where everyone is as honest as him.
The end.
Signed
Boris Bullshit ( ultimate choser of the new head of the Met, so no pressure)

[ClaretDiver]

Boris Bullshit ( ultimate choser of the new head of the Met, so no pressure)

I don't think that Boris ultimately signs off on the new head of the Met, I believe it is the Mayor of London.....correct me if I am wrong though...

[Culmclaret]

Is it not a Crown appointment?

[Devils_Advocate]

I don't think that Boris ultimately signs off on the new head of the Met, I believe it is the Mayor of London.....correct me if I am wrong though...

Appointment of the Met Police Commissioner will be overseen by Priti Pate as Home Secretary. The mayor of London does not have the power to hire and fire a Commissioner but it is common practice for the Commissioner of the Met Police to offer their resignation should the London mayor officially express a loss confidence in them to carry on in the role

[tiger76]

I know it will be scoffed at because of the source but Daily Mail has an article headlined
"No wonder she's smiling! In line for a £575,000 payout and a £160,000-a-year taxpayer-funded pension pot, Cressida Dick gets set to put her feet up at her £1m country home and enjoy a leisurely life like her predecessor"

Not at all a bad outcome for somebody who appeared to make a lot of mistakes and presided over a big decline in the reputation of the Met. The reward for failure in the public sector is astonishing.

Talk about rewarding failure, firstly she gets a Damehood, then she lines her pockets to the tune of millions, great gig if you can get it.

[bfcjg]

I don't think that Boris ultimately signs off on the new head of the Met, I believe it is the Mayor of London.....correct me if I am wrong though...

"The Met Commissioner is appointed by the Home Secretary, who must have 'due regard' for the views of the Mayor of London as occupant of MOPAC."
From the BBC site.
Johnson is such an obnoxious lieing slime ball he will have influence, the cabinet are all his puppets and yes people otherwise there would have already been resignations on principal, they are covering their own backs as well.

[fatboy47]

Johnson is such an obnoxious lieing slime ball

And this surprises you?

This has been pretty much universally accepted by those who actually knew him since his time at the Spectator.

[bfcjg]

And this surprises you?

This has been pretty much universally accepted by those who actually knew him since his time at the Spectator.

Doesn't surprise me one bit, I have never trusted, rated, liked or been impressed by him. He became PM by back stabbing May with his rabid right wing mates, he won an election purely because labour had the worst leader imaginable and the liberals just didn't get the mood in the country.
When he is history politics will be so much the better.

[evensteadiereddie]

Genuine question - Do you believe that nickname would have been heard by Senior Officers? Would it have even been heard outside of a particular shift or group of similar ranked people?
.I don't know but suspect the failings may have been made by people other than Senior Officers.

Failings in vetting will likely be a non Police organisation, even the Armed Forces are outside of their recruiting process nowadays, it is contracted out to civilians.

And that's my whole point. Nobody thought it right and decent to report that headcase - it wasn't the done thing, an aspect of the rotten culture affecting the force. No serving officer in that station with the guts to report it to a senior officer. No senior officer with the guts or professionalism to find out what the hell was going on.
No doubt those in the know will keep their jobs.
Rotten from the top down.
Bring in a chief who will make it simple, mandatory even, for the nonces and racists in thhe force to be reported.

It's alright for Tsarbomba to pretend all is well saying officers are reported and investigated but who, in reality, has any confidence whatsoever in that system. Clearly, the tiny proportion of officers found guilty and punished suggest we either have an angelic police force or one that continues to cover up................

[Billy Balfour]

Doesn't surprise me one bit, I have never trusted, rated, liked or been impressed by him. He became PM by back stabbing May with his rabid right wing mates, he won an election purely because labour had the worst leader imaginable and the liberals just didn't get the mood in the country.
When he is history politics will be so much the better.

I can't think of a worse PM in modern history. A compulsive liar who takes us all for idiots, and this includes his own backbenchers and party.

Like you say, though, Labour also had the worse possible leader. A few months ago, I read Left Out: The Inside Story of Labour Under Corbyn. No country deserves such an incompetent, and way off the mainstream, opposition leader. 10 years ago, if someone had said to me that there will be a general election and the choice will be between Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn, I would have thought they were on drugs.