Russia Invades

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:35 pm

NEXTA: Lithuanian Parliament ponders making St. George ribbon and Russia ‘Z’ logos tantamount to displaying Communist and Nazi’s symbols, both of which carry a 500 Euro fine.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 83564?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:38 pm

Drone footage of Mariupol

https://twitter.com/lapatina_/status/15 ... 49316?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:43 pm

No break for Russia, Nestle pulls KitKat and Nesquik brands out.

https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/150 ... 56352?s=21

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:45 pm

John Sweeney at a place that two days ago was in Russian hands to the east of kyi'v

https://twitter.com/johnsweeneyroar/sta ... 6597366784

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:56 pm

Russia loses 2022 World Swimming Championships. NEXTA

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 07404?s=21

brunlea99 · Post by **brunlea99** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:03 pm

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:43 pm
No break for Russia, Nestle pulls KitKat and Nesquik brands out.

https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/150 ... 56352?s=21

"No break for Russia" - Brilliant !!!

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:08 pm

REUTERS: Ruble rallies to three week high in Russia after Putin’s call for Ruble payments only, reaching 95 per dollar before slipping back to 100/$ this afternoon.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1506 ... 91494?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:12 pm

NEXTA: Stiff new measures are imposed on dissemination of ‘inaccurate information’ and public criticism of ‘Russian Government agencies operating abroad’ 5million Rubles and 15 years in prison.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 71364?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:23 pm

Russian anchorwoman quits Russia for Paris, rather than having to continue spouting Kremlin propaganda to Russia. NEXTA

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 34439?s=21

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:26 pm

some extracts from an old colleague, it really is heartbreaking:

It is heartbreaking to see the terrible toll the war in the Ukraine has on the people in the major cities. The attack on the theater in Mariupol is a horrible example how innocent women and children suffer the most.

This week I was able to visit our Damen Shipyard in Galati Rumania which is located right at the Ukrainian border. This is from where we coordinate the escape and receive the refugees from our Damen engineering office MDEM in Mykolaiv. So far over 300 employees and family members, mostly women and children, have been able to make the long journey to safety. A specially formed team at the yard is monitoring and coordinating each individual car journey, advising routes, receiving them at the border, arranging housing and all other immediate needs such as healthcare.

I was able to visit them at various locations in Galati and listening to their emotional stories of fear, stress and uncertainty. The spouse of one of our colleagues told me how she is worried sick about the well-being of her husband. She hadn’t heard from him for several hours, the windows were blown out of their house and last she knew is that he had struggles to find a good place to stay. I spoke to a mother of three who explained she and her kids had slept in the concrete basement for days, clothes on, cold and humid, poor ventilation, miserable, so tired. Another colleague worried about an aging mother who didn’t want to leave. Fighting in Mykolaiv is already happening but what the refugees feared most is that the fate of civilians will be similar to that of the current civilian population in Mariupol.

The journey from Mykolaiv to Galati takes normally about 7 hours. It is now 36 hours with many roadblocks, armed soldiers, long lines at the border and that under the constant threat of attack.

Let me finish this post with a positive story. When the first bombs started to come down on Mykolaiv the heavily pregnant wife of one of our employees decided she had to be evacuated, she told me how she made the entire journey and only 2 days after arrival to safety gave birth to a beautiful daughter. She is now safe and staying in the welcoming home of a Rumanian young family. May this last story be a glimmer of hope to all.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:29 pm

Whilst Ukraine firing into Russia to give them a taste of it seems like something I'd do if I was them, it would possibly turn public opinion in the rest of the world against them and make them appear as bad as the Russians. Atm they have the high moral ground and the indignation of basically (almost) the entirel planet on their side.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:48 pm

Peter CADDICK-ADAMS - President Biden heading to Europe this week for a series of meetings with NATO, G7 an other Western partners.

https://twitter.com/militaryhistori/sta ... 64809?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:55 pm

Yet to be confirmed reports that Russia has lost its second in command, Marine Brigade Col. Sharov of the 810th Russian Marines while trying to storm Mariupol from the Azov sea.

https://twitter.com/stuartpstevens/stat ... 36584?s=21

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:37 pm

I thought this was interesting given all the pictures and satellite imagery we are seeing daily:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60762772

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:52 pm

Russians interviewed re the effects of the war, some are very guarded and others very bravely express their dissent re the Special Operation.
Mainly young people on this film so perhaps not quite a representative sample of the population as a whole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5GS4uUeHVA

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:09 pm

Sweden are to send another 5,000 anti tank weapons to Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/jimmysecuk/status/1 ... 43936?s=21

Gerry Hattrick · Post by **Gerry Hattrick** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:34 pm

Grim99 Just landed at Mildenhall
They don't fly these things around on jollies.

"The E-4B Nightwatch
They are known for providing a robust and survivable airborne command post that offers a platform for the President of the United States, under a framework known as the National Command Authority (NCA), to initiate a nuclear strike, according to The War Zone."

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:35 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:11 pm
I don't know what Russia is going to do when its army hits the stage where it is operational incapacitated

Thing is, you can conduct defence with a lot less capability than offence, so they could perhaps hang on, but I just don't know

I don’t know either, I am no military strategist either.

But like yourself I am reading just about every Twitter thread posted on here.

The towns they say they have captured, they are leaving a very minimal force in those towns as they don’t have number of troops to do anything else.

Look at the video of Kharkiv, the protesters were fronted up by about 30-40 armed troops. It’s an opinion, but I think that’s about all the troops they will have left there. I read a troop report that Russian troops were taking villages and then moving on without leaving holding troops and were then being attacked from the rear. So they leave either none or few troops.

They are way over stretched here.

As Elwa just posted Sweden sending more anti tank missiles, they must have 4 for each tank in Ukraine.

If as being reported many troops are getting frost bite, that’s going dent moral even further.

I am hoping this the week is the week that the Russia held territory maps start to shrink slightly.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:43 pm

Gerry Hattrick wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:34 pm
Grim99 Just landed at Mildenhall
They don't fly these things around on jollies.

"The E-4B Nightwatch
They are known for providing a robust and survivable airborne command post that offers a platform for the President of the United States, under a framework known as the National Command Authority (NCA), to initiate a nuclear strike, according to The War Zone."

that's a lot bigger than most folk will realise

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:45 pm

Before I posted my last post I hadn’t read this in the MailOnline. But makes me hopeful

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... alled.html

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:47 pm

The human cost of this war for the Russians all they do wrong is believe what they are told, mainly because they get punished if they don’t believe it.

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/150 ... 60672?s=21

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:50 pm

That’s going to hurt!!
Soldier runs commanding officer down with his tank.
If it’s true of course.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... laims.html

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:52 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:35 pm
I don’t know either, I am no military strategist either.

But like yourself I am reading just about every Twitter thread posted on here.

The towns they say they have captured, they are leaving a very minimal force in those towns as they don’t have number of troops to do anything else.

Look at the video of Kharkiv, the protesters were fronted up by about 30-40 armed troops. It’s an opinion, but I think that’s about all the troops they will have left there. I read a troop report that Russian troops were taking villages and then moving on without leaving holding troops and were then being attacked from the rear. So they leave either none or few troops.

They are way over stretched here.

As Elwa just posted Sweden sending more anti tank missiles, they must have 4 for each tank in Ukraine.

If as being reported many troops are getting frost bite, that’s going dent moral even further.

I am hoping this the week is the week that the Russia held territory maps start to shrink slightly.

This is when you need a lot more HUMINT and a bit less SIGINT

Some proper info from the Russian troops on the ground, especially around the northern sector of the war

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:30 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:52 pm
This is when you need a lot more HUMINT and a bit less SIGINT

Some proper info from the Russian troops on the ground, especially around the northern sector of the war

No idea what your acronyms are?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:36 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:30 pm
No idea what your acronyms are?

Sorry

HUMINT - Human intelligence sources, ie prisoner interrogations, that kind of thing

SIGINT - Signals/electronic intelligence sources, ie satellite, radio intercepts, that kind of thing

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:54 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:43 pm
that's a lot bigger than most folk will realise

Biden is going to the EU thingy isn't he. Doesn't this plane go with them every time he goes abroad?

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:56 pm

I think we know that the west are providing up to date satellite intelligence.

Plus they are apparently texting Russian troops about how to surrender.

There are loads of commas being released , so I think they will have up to date info.

Then there is video footage from captured towns.

I also think people in captured towns still have mobile phones so can be calling in with intelligence.

I get the feeling Russia is trying to fight a 40’s war. But is finding the modern information outlets mean it’s no where to hide.

I made this up as a for instance, Russia states it taken X town. In the 40’s no one would know how many troops are holding that town and would not attack.
Today one person with a mobile can let troops know it’s only 20 troops holding the town and exactly where they are. Hence towns easily retaken.
Remember Russia when it invaded had 1 troop for every 144 Ukrainians, that’s probably now 1 to every 190-200 Ukrainians.

In 4 weeks time that will be 1 to 400 Ukrainians and Russia lost Afghanistan with 1 to 9 Afghans.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:01 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:56 pm
I think we know that the west are providing up to date satellite intelligence.

Plus they are apparently texting Russian troops about how to surrender.

There are loads of commas being released , so I think they will have up to date info.

Then there is video footage from captured towns.

I also think people in captured towns still have mobile phones so can be calling in with intelligence.

I get the feeling Russia is trying to fight a 40’s war. But is finding the modern information outlets mean it’s no where to hide.

I made this up as a for instance, Russia states it taken X town. In the 40’s no one would know how many troops are holding that town and would not attack.
Today one person with a mobile can let troops know it’s only 20 troops holding the town and exactly where they are. Hence towns easily retaken.
Remember Russia when it invaded had 1 troop for every 144 Ukrainians, that’s probably now 1 to every 190-200 Ukrainians.

In 4 weeks time that will be 1 to 400 Ukrainians and Russia lost Afghanistan with 1 to 9 Afghans.

Get all that

But Russia is an artillery heavy army, with lots of tanks and a pretty good tech recon level

If they can be adequately supplied, and if they are dug in, they will be hard to shift, and a stalemate might be the best they can now hope for

I'm not saying we in the West don't get distracted easily, but this thread has more than one example of a successful Russian disinformation campaign on it, and they will desperately hoping for that amplifying the longer this goes on.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:04 pm

Confirmation from the US about Ukrainian advances to the East and North East of Kyi'v

https://twitter.com/CarlaBabbVOA/status ... 9710324747

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:11 pm

Russians digging in.

https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/ ... SoJRg&s=19

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:14 pm

My son returned from a short break in Poland two days ago. He stayed in Krakow and visited Auschwitz. He was staggered by the number of American soldiers walking the streets (and at Auschwitz).

Not sure if this footage has already been posted. It's like looking at pictures of Berlin in 1945. There are no civilians shown.

https://twitter.com/lapatina_/status/15 ... 49316?s=21

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:18 pm

If the Russians dig in and go for a war of attrition would that benefit the Ukrainian army and their use of and access to drones guided by the satellite technology?

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:22 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:01 pm
Get all that

But Russia is an artillery heavy army, with lots of tanks and a pretty good tech recon level

If they can be adequately supplied, and if they are dug in, they will be hard to shift, and a stalemate might be the best they can now hope for

I'm not saying we in the West don't get distracted easily, but this thread has more than one example of a successful Russian disinformation campaign on it, and they will desperately hoping for that amplifying the longer this goes on.

For me that’s where switchblade drones come in. They fly in and deliver targeted strikes on dig in armour. From what I have read the 300 can do minor damage to armourments will kill or injure anyone near by. The 600 wil take out armoured vehicles or artillery guns. I am just hoping they are sending more than they said. Interestingly the switchblade manufacturer has a statement on its website saying they stand with Ukraine.

Where better to test your new kit and prove it than in battle.
A modest gift might get you millions in orders.

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:27 pm

The Russians digging in will certainly help the Ukrainian military ,as they, the Ukrainian military, will be well supplied, one way or another. It will not help the Ukrainian civilians as they appear to be Russia's main target.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:45 pm

Reports of Russians being pushed back about 55 kilometers east & northeast of Kyiv.

https://mobile.twitter.com/carlababbvoa ... 9710324747

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:50 pm

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:54 pm
Biden is going to the EU thingy isn't he. Doesn't this plane go with them every time he goes abroad?

yes always, I didn't know about Biden going abroad (been busy this week so not been able to play close attention unfortunately).

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:06 pm

ELINT NEWS: Double strike by Ukrainian Stugna-P

https://twitter.com/elintnews/status/15 ... 09480?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:09 pm

LIGHT RELIEF (or the way we all feel at least at times) from ELINT

https://twitter.com/uamemesforces/statu ... 95205?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:15 pm

Hey up, someone desperately needs to buy some time to reorganise….

REUTERS: Russia call for U.N. Meeting to discuss humanitarian aid for Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1506 ... 36260?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:20 pm

As above post Go U.S.A. - top notch speech - we’re not playing your games… so images are movie sets? It’s your fault… your war and to justify your posturing justifies your lies…. Fu (in diplomatic speak)

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:27 pm

NEXTA: Renault, the French Car Maker have stopped manufacturing cars in Russia (but it seems sales might be slack and exports slower than hoped)

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 57896?s=21

Cubanforever · Post by **Cubanforever** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:33 pm

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:15 pm
Hey up, someone desperately needs to buy some time to reorganise….

REUTERS: Russia call for U.N. Meeting to discuss humanitarian aid for Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1506 ... 36260?s=21

Unbelievable front and pisstake from Russia....just trying to stall things again for whatever reason they can make up....unless they are asking for humanitarian aid for their troops. When all the dust settles I so hope there is some way of bringing all these murderers to book.

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:52 pm

This guy has created some interesting threads on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/warinthefuture/stat ... 56128?s=21

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:57 pm

Zelensky in english
https://twitter.com/BBCYaldaHakim/statu ... ozVaoWWaNA

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:58 pm

Willieonthewing wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:09 pm
Perhaps don't comment until you know the facts then?

The comment about the aircraft was 100% correct. Pull your head in

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:18 am

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:51 am

Russia stalling for time, they've already lost more troops in one month than they did in just over nine years during the Afghanistan conflict, Russia aren't the army they try and pretend to the rest of the world they are, captured Russian soldiers have been found badly equipped and with food rations from 2016 and medical supplies dated 1979, poorly maintained vehicle's just being left behind, tactics from the 1940's and troops suffering from frost bite because of inadequate clothing.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:52 am

There are some seriously wicked people out there. Jow can they sink so low ?
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/vigilantes-st ... 51253.html

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:18 am

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:11 pm
I don't know what Russia is going to do when its army hits the stage where it is operational incapacitated

Thing is, you can conduct defence with a lot less capability than offence, so they could perhaps hang on, but I just don't know

Defending is defending I agree but defending in an enemy country unfamiliar to you with long logistic lines and a local enemy, and perhaps low moral, is something else.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:23 am

ecc wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:14 pm
My son returned from a short break in Poland two days ago. He stayed in Krakow and visited Auschwitz. He was staggered by the number of American soldiers walking the streets (and at Auschwitz).

Not sure if this footage has already been posted. It's like looking at pictures of Berlin in 1945. There are no civilians shown.

https://twitter.com/lapatina_/status/15 ... 49316?s=21

Berlin 1945:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2FuoFHkIc

Dehousing some called it.