Russia Invades

[bfcjg]

'O' seems an odd choice of ident. It's more difficult to paint then 'Z', 'V' or many other letters.

Apparently he was going to be writing"on our way to victory!" but a sniper potted him.

[Taffy on the wing]

The UK has both red and white phosphorus in its everyday arsenal. The issue here is not the substance, but it’s probable intended use. We use it to ‘smoke screen’ utilising its burning properties to produce a dense smoke cloud. Others use it for other means.

Part of our "Kill 'em with kindness" program.

[bfcjg]

https://news.sky.com/story/jk-rowling-c ... a-12574823
Bit rich coming from a man who slaughters babes in arms and children. I think the pressure is getting to him.

[Vegas Claret]

Where has this aircraft come from?

Jasionka in Poland

[Vegas Claret]

Yesterday and today there have been US Chinooks flying to the same area of the remote airfield close to the border of Ukraine. You would suspect it’s the delivery of the US arms Biden promised.

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could also be medevac

[Vegas Claret]

I wanted to post a Twitter link , but no idea how to.

Estimates loses.

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on the bottom of the tweet you will see this

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click on that then select copy link to tweet - then ctrl+v (paste) when you get on here

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[Vegas Claret]

[Lowbankclaret]

on the bottom of the tweet you will see this Screenshot 2022-03-25 8.32.01 AM.png

click on that then select copy link to tweet - then ctrl+v (paste) when you get on here
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Thank you.

[Lowbankclaret]

could also be medevac

True, it flew just about the full width of Ukraine before landing near the coast.

[Lowbankclaret]

I posted a link yesterday, they ran him over with a tank apparently, severe damage to his legs.

[Hipper]

On the killing of Medvechek, there was a report yesterday of a Colonel Medvedev and said he was being stretchered away for medical treatment.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/24/russian-s ... n-protest/

The Daily Mail now report he has died, and another general has died in the fighting:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -DIED.html

[Taffy on the wing]

Israel's stance seems a bit perplexing considering they know the effects of genocide.

They only care about Israel.......nothing else.

[Hipper]

They only care about Israel.......nothing else.

Why shouldn't they?

I hope our government's priority is the UK.

We are interested in the war in Ukraine because it affects us in many ways. Hardly anybody is interested in the war in Yemen because it effects us very little.

[Lancasterclaret]

https://twitter.com/MarkUrban01/status/ ... 3602452485

This is quite big (as in Russia now recognises it can't win what it set out to do at the start) and its shows that Russia is looking for a way out that it can count as a win

Course, the big problem is that Ukraine is not going to give up its territory, especially if it perceives that the longer this goes on, the worse it is for Russia (I'm not sure about that, but Russia is going to get progressively weaker, and its whether Ukraine can keep up with its current operational tempo)

Be very interesting to see how the Russian troops in the North attempt to hang on to what they have got, and I'm not sure they will be able to

Also might mean that the Ukrainians can reinforce in the south and east, which would make Russia's job much harder

[Lowbankclaret]

https://twitter.com/MarkUrban01/status/ ... 3602452485

This is quite big (as in Russia now recognises it can't win what it set out to do at the start) and its shows that Russia is looking for a way out that it can count as a win

Course, the big problem is that Ukraine is not going to give up its territory, especially if it perceives that the longer this goes on, the worse it is for Russia (I'm not sure about that, but Russia is going to get progressively weaker, and its whether Ukraine can keep up with its current operational tempo)

Be very interesting to see how the Russian troops in the North attempt to hang on to what they have got, and I'm not sure they will be able to

Also might mean that the Ukrainians can reinforce in the south and east, which would make Russia's job much harder

That’s an interesting statement he made, I hope Putin was aware he was going to say that.

I think the 14,000 anti tank missiles being delivered are going to have an impact over the next two weeks.

[NewClaret]

That’s an interesting statement he made, I hope Putin was aware he was going to say that.

I think the 14,000 anti tank missiles being delivered are going to have an impact over the next two weeks.

Did wonder earlier whether the so called “counter offensive” success was actually the Russians changing strategy & focussing on the North & East.

Either way, once the threat on Kyiv has receded, the Russians might start to feel some real pain.

[Lowbankclaret]

Two US C17’s heading to the remote airstrip near the Ukraine border.

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[JarrowClaret]

Love the fact (if its the same guy) that he got loads of s**t on twitter for calling the IFV he destroyed a tank

Twitter tank pedantry is something I can right behind!

That’s cos it isn’t a tank get over it

Not that I would point it out to him though not what he needs I guess.

[ClaretLoup]

Another great Twitter thread from Kalim Galeev, this time it's about the difference between legality and procedure. Apparently a small group of Russian soldiers refused to go to Ukraine because they didn't have passports and therefore it was illegal to cross the border. They were dismissed from the Army but now they are suing their employers for wrongful dismissal. Gallev also explains how he legal system is used to traduce the poor and uneducated.

https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/ ... 1060986884

[Taffy on the wing]

Why shouldn't they?

I hope our government's priority is the UK.

We are interested in the war in Ukraine because it affects us in many ways. Hardly anybody is interested in the war in Yemen because it effects us very little.

Considering how much aid they receive..........they might offer some support.

[Lowbankclaret]

https://youtu.be/H4CFfMZmpDY

Interesting take on the conflict, which I in the main agree with.

[Cubanforever]

Is Putin going to abandon his forces in the North or draw them back and bring them around to the Crimea....given how it's gone for him so far I don't think they'll be able to go overland to the south.

[Lancasterclaret]

Is Putin going to abandon his forces in the North or draw them back and bring them around to the Crimea....given how it's gone for him so far I don't think they'll be able to go overland to the south.

This is the thing

Holding the line with limited supply and morale with constant attacks on your rear areas?

You'd have to be one hell of an army to ignore that without starting to retreat

And of course, once you start retreating, with poorly trained troops, low morale and limited supply, that can turn into a rout pretty quickly, and remember, all the big supply depots that should be behind the Russian lines are still all held by Ukrainian troops

[JarrowClaret]

Another great thread

https://twitter.com/jominiw/status/1507 ... 9JcQm2KnrQ

[Lancasterclaret]

Ukrainian protestors in Kerson rubbing it in with occupying troops

https://twitter.com/WashingtonPoint/sta ... 4067810306

[Vegas Claret]

I suspect those smarter than me posted this ages ago but on the off chance it hasn't been mentioned - China has a long standing guarantee with Ukraine that it would protect them in the even of a nuclear attack - as the article says, that muddies the water
https://www.wsj.com/articles/under-new- ... 1647007200

[Cubanforever]

I suspect those smarter than me posted this ages ago but on the off chance it hasn't been mentioned - China has a long standing guarantee with Ukraine that it would protect them in the even of a nuclear attack - as the article says, that muddies the water
https://www.wsj.com/articles/under-new- ... 1647007200

Didn't NATO/UN have an agreement to send forces in on the ground if it was attacked/invaded also ?

[Vegas Claret]

Ukrainian protestors in Kerson rubbing it in with occupying troops

https://twitter.com/WashingtonPoint/sta ... 4067810306

how they are keeping in such good spirits is beyond me. Truly fabulous people and an example to everyone

[Cubanforever]

how they are keeping in such good spirits is beyond me. Truly fabulous people and an example to everyone

Russia has created a very strong Western ally for us in what it has done to Ukraine, massive error by Putin and its sinking in now

[Elbarad]

Ukrainian protestors in Kerson rubbing it in with occupying troops

https://twitter.com/WashingtonPoint/sta ... 4067810306

That's incredible! And so brave considering the several times the occupiers have shot or thrown grenades at protesters. If Ukraine wasn't a united nation before the invasion, the fires of Putin have welded them into one.

[Lancasterclaret]

That's incredible! And so brave considering the several times the occupiers have shot or thrown grenades at protesters. If Ukraine wasn't a united nation before the invasion, the fires of Putin have welded them into one.

Yeah, he's miscalculated massively

And they are furious with Russia

As has been said by everyone, the territorial demands that Russia have are completely unacceptable to Ukraine, and will they change? or will they do something completely daft to try to get the win?

Lets hope not

[bfcjg]

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war- ... t-12575013
Quite an interesting take on the sanctions against Russia.

[Vegas Claret]

Yeah, he's miscalculated massively

And they are furious with Russia

As has been said by everyone, the territorial demands that Russia have are completely unacceptable to Ukraine, and will they change? or will they do something completely daft to try to get the win?

Lets hope not

that's why I posted the China/Ukraine agreement - if he uses Nukes then China GUARANTEED to protect Ukraine. NO WAY Russia wants a war with China they would be obliterated

[Lancasterclaret]

that's why I posted the China/Ukraine agreement - if he uses Nukes then China GUARANTEED to protect Ukraine. NO WAY Russia wants a war with China they would be obliterated

But if he uses nukes then all bets are off

NATO have to react to that sadly

[Lowbankclaret]

But if he uses nukes then all bets are off

NATO have to react to that sadly

That exactly what Mr Zeihan says in the video I linked.

We are giving massive amounts of arms so Ukraine can stop Russia so he cannot start a nuclear war.

We are arming the Ukrainians to prevent it getting nuclear.

The poor Ukrainians are paying with their lives to protect us from nuclear war.

[NewClaret]

Just read on BBC that Russia have claimed to have completely destroyed Ukraines Air Force and air defence systems.

Not seen that reported on here. That sounds very bad!

[Cubanforever]

Just read on BBC that Russia have claimed to have completely destroyed Ukraines Air Force and air defence systems.

Not seen that reported on here. That sounds very bad!

The Russians have said a lot more than they seem to have done

[NewClaret]

The Russians have said a lot more than they seem to have done

Well I hope that’s the case here. I do worry we’re only getting one side of the story.

[bfcjg]

The Russians have said a lot more than they seem to have done

I know Russia are desperately hiring arab mercenaries, I didn't know they hired this chap.

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[Cubanforever]

Well I hope that’s the case here. I do worry we’re only getting one side of the story.

I'm sure we aren't getting the full story but given that Putin now seems to be concentrating on the areas north and northeast of Crimea I take that as a positive........also trust the many links on here far more than other outlets as they've proved seemingly correct going off how events are unfolding...so thanks to the team keeping us updated on here

[Cubanforever]

I think it's incredibly naive and dangerous to spread nonsense like nuclear war being a possibility. Just because you might have fell into the scaredy cat honey trap, I don't think it's fair to try and drag others in with you. People really need to stop pretending to be experts and spreading panic because they've read too many Daily Mail articles.

I think you should apply some of your own thinking to yourself and what you post.
This is a valuable thread stop trying to stir the pot.

[KRBFC]

I think you should apply some of your own thinking to yourself and what you post.
This is a valuable thread stop trying to stir the pot.

Let's keep it to reporting war updates and not discussing ridiculous nuclear war theories then, as the head of NATO has already said, a nuclear war is something Russia cannot win, for that reason alone, it will never ever happen. It's simply to scare nations into staying out of the conflict. Spreading mass panic messages is good for nobody.

[JarrowClaret]

Just read on BBC that Russia have claimed to have completely destroyed Ukraines Air Force and air defence systems.

Not seen that reported on here. That sounds very bad!

The Russians totally destroyed the Ukraine AD and AF on the first night of the invasion then again a few days later and then again a few more days later. They may make it hard for the Ukrainians to fly much but they are still flying still shooting AC down and still performing miracles with the Bayakters!

[NewClaret]

I'm sure we aren't getting the full story but given that Putin now seems to be concentrating on the areas north and northeast of Crimea I take that as a positive........also trust the many links on here far more than other outlets as they've proved seemingly correct going off how events are unfolding...so thanks to the team keeping us updated on here

For clarity, wasn’t criticising the reporting in this thread, just an observation that much of the media we consume is pro-Ukrainian. Not that I trust Russia at all, just hope they’re not slowly making gains like this that are going unreported.

[Lowbankclaret]

I think it's incredibly naive and dangerous to spread nonsense like nuclear war being a possibility. Just because you might have fell into the scaredy cat honey trap, I don't think it's fair to try and drag others in with you. People really need to stop pretending to be experts and spreading panic because they've read too many Daily Mail articles.

Too be fair he is explaining how the west is trying to stop nuclear war,

[Cubanforever]

For clarity, wasn’t criticising the reporting in this thread, just an observation that much of the media we consume is pro-Ukrainian. Not that I trust Russia at all, just hope they’re not slowly making gains like this that are going unreported.

Agree with that

[KRBFC]

For clarity, wasn’t criticising the reporting in this thread, just an observation that much of the media we consume is pro-Ukrainian. Not that I trust Russia at all, just hope they’re not slowly making gains like this that are going unreported.

Maybe the war really is pro Ukraine and they're miles ahead? the media is certainly painting the picture that Russia are doomed to failure. I'm certain Putin thought it would be a cake walk like Crimea was. He probably thought most of Ukraine was pro Russian based on the separatists in the Donbas region.

Zelensky made a mistake not dealing with the separatist groups, allowing them such power to control millions of the Ukraine population. Gave Russian confidence and security to just waltz right in, whilst declaring them independent states. The separatists are the biggest headscratcher, Ukrainian born pro Russian? happy to see their own country blown to pieces and their own people killed or simply Russian troops in disguise?

[JarrowClaret]

Maybe the war really is pro Ukraine and they're miles ahead? the media is certainly painting the picture that Russia are doomed to failure. I'm certain Putin thought it would be a cake walk like Crimea was. He probably thought most of Ukraine was pro Russian based on the separatists in the Donbas region.

Zelensky made a mistake not dealing with the separatist groups, allowing them such power to control millions of the Ukraine population. Gave Russian confidence and security to just waltz right in, whilst declaring them independent states. The separatists are the biggest headscratcher, Ukrainian born pro Russian? happy to see their own country blown to pieces and their own people killed or simply Russian troops in disguise?

I haven’t watched the news at all for some time now so I can’t speak for that but from what I have read apart from 1 or 2 they say that it is going bad for the Russians which it is no matter what they announced today, but they can’t see beyond the Russians eventually winning in some way. Unless of course they start to struggle manpower/ equipment wise.

[KRBFC]

I haven’t watched the news at all for some time now so I can’t speak for that but from what I have read apart from 1 or 2 they say that it is going bad for the Russians which it is no matter what they announced today, but they can’t see beyond the Russians eventually winning in some way. Unless of course they start to struggle manpower/ equipment wise.

The problem with invading a country is you're automatically up against an army of millions of people, so you're out numbered from the get go.

[Vegas Claret]

But if he uses nukes then all bets are off

NATO have to react to that sadly

but if he uses Nukes then the West and China will destroy him - surely that is enough of a deterrent for those around him to tell him no ? I watched a debate on TV earlier today with some "experts" and they agreed that just because Putin says "launch" doesn't mean it would happen in any way shape or form