Russia Invades

[GodIsADeeJay81]

https://twitter.com/lionhea02905378/sta ... bUvxg&s=19

What to do when the bridge ahead is mined...

[Lowbankclaret]

Do they destroy all this Russian equipment or reuse it against them?

They re use what they can, tanks and vehicles.
MLRS and thermobaric launchers are no use without the correct ammo to put in it.

[NewClaret]

They re use what they can, tanks and vehicles.
MLRS and thermobaric launchers are no use without the correct ammo to put in it.

I wouldn’t like to be a Ukrainian driving one of those Z/V marked tanks back to base

[Lowbankclaret]

I wouldn’t like to be a Ukrainian driving one of those Z/V marked tanks back to base

I think they do have some goods comms but you are correct a tank and an N-love or a javelin is an instant cremation .

[Bullabill]

They should re-mark them V.Z. in support of their President.

[bfcjg]

Piece about mobile phone networks being used by both sides
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war- ... t-12577595

[Hipper]

if these are "live" then this is beyond mental https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/150 ... KgPsP7CSIg

What sort of mines are they - just contact ones?

It would seem to make more sense to put a single line across the road. Or something random.

[Lancasterclaret]

https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/sta ... 7553934338

Sumy no longer encircled, Ukrainians pushing Russians back from Kharki'v towards the Russian border

As Philip says, all this means any redeployment of Russian units from Kyi'v to the Donbass will take a lot longer, and might not even be possible if the Russians continue to lose ground around here

[Lancasterclaret]

Analysis of what the Ukrainians are saying at the peace talks and what they have in mind

https://twitter.com/DmitryOpines/status ... 4766174214

[Lancasterclaret]

More maps

https://militaryland.net/ukraine/invasi ... 5-summary/

[Lancasterclaret]

Just looking at the maps

Interior lines are key, and the Ukrainians have them

[Lowbankclaret]

A good analysis of the estimated losses, and the percentages. At this rate the Russian army will not be able to hold any ground in Ukraine.


https://twitter.com/anders_aslund/statu ... IIOKB8Jgtg

[Gaia]

Anti war protests in Russian cities on Saturday 2nd April. No doubt the Russian authorities will know about them.

[bfcjg]

Anti war protests in Russian cities on Saturday 2nd April. No doubt the Russian authorities will know about them.

I was channel hopping last night and caught an old Michael Palin new Europe episode, it was part from Romania and focused on the end of Nicolae Ceaușescu which does have similarities to current times, he thought he was untouchable and gathered a mass of people to the palace to announce how wonderful he was and how great life was, some in the crowd turned they'd had enough, the rest joined in,tens of thousands. It just takes brave people,then a mass of people.
Fingers crossed.

[Gaia]

You're right there BFC and as sanctions bite further more will turn against Putin hopefully. Lately the protests had been getting smaller due to the arrests and violent clampdowns and threats of 15 years in prison.

[Gaia]

You're right there BFC and as sanctions bite further more will turn against Putin hopefully. Lately the protests had been getting smaller due to the arrests and violent clampdowns and threats of 15 years in prison.

[TsarBomba]

Analysis of what the Ukrainians are saying at the peace talks and what they have in mind

https://twitter.com/DmitryOpines/status ... 4766174214

Thanks for this. A really good read.

Point 11 in particular is astonishing if accurate.

[Lancasterclaret]

Thanks for this. A really good read.

Point 11 in particular is astonishing if accurate.

Again, for domestic consumption in Ukraine so pinch of salts all round, and of course, Russia has massive previous for just ignoring stuff it agrees to if it decides to, but still

[KateR]

all this regarding Putin's people not telling him the truth regarding the real status, I can understand the logic behind that statement in and of itself. However does anyone believe that Putin won't listen to the likes of the BBC and be able to look on the net to get a view from the other side to provide himself with intelligence?

I would have thought he would be asking questions and have a good idea of the answers, therefore people telling outright lies are just as much if not at a more dangerous juncture I would have thought. Certainly a dangerous game to be playing, this could be real Russian Roulette

[Lowbankclaret]

all this regarding Putin's people not telling him the truth regarding the real status, I can understand the logic behind that statement in and of itself. However does anyone believe that Putin won't listen to the likes of the BBC and be able to look on the net to get a view from the other side to provide himself with intelligence?

I would have thought he would be asking questions and have a good idea of the answers, therefore people telling outright lies are just as much if not at a more dangerous juncture I would have thought. Certainly a dangerous game to be playing, this could be real Russian Roulette

This is complete speculation on my part.
Putin surround himself with people he trusts. We think.

I think Putin will believe his own Generals or whatever their titles are, right up until it becomes obvious they are telling porkies.

He will think all other outlets are just western propaganda.

IMHO of course.

[Lowbankclaret]

James Vasquez has tweeted, the second announcement of him being killed in Ukraine is perhaps premature.

https://twitter.com/jmvasquez1974/statu ... XPyvBVQpvA

[Gaia]

His wife Tina Vasquez wasn't impressed by that.
She wrote
For all the news and social media, please refrain from posting false information.....Unless you have a body, do not post untruths....Have some respect for me, his wife. You could only imagine how I feel seeing this online.

[Gaia]

Good interview with Fiona Hill on you tube
https://youtu.be/RHdhfd5zWrk

[Lowbankclaret]

Putin now threaten to turn off the wests gas tomorrow if they don’t pay in Rubles.

Let see where this goes.

Will the west cave in or stand up?

[Elbarad]

Video of Blackburn supporters in Ukraine.

https://funker530.com/video/chechens-re ... n-ukraine/

[Lowbankclaret]

300 Soldiers apparently upped and went home after a dispute about sending home. a dead comrade.

https://twitter.com/rooslantotrov/statu ... XPyvBVQpvA

[Vegas Claret]

Putin now threaten to turn off the wests gas tomorrow if they don’t pay in Rubles.

Let see where this goes.

Will the west cave in or stand up?

if he does and the West cave in then there is no hope

[Lancasterclaret]

if he does and the West cave in then there is no hope

They won't cave in

Russia runs out of money long before the West runs out of oil and gas

[Lowbankclaret]

I have spoken to about 20 people who all thought if it meant power cuts, we should just suck it up. It appears for now based on a very small sample people here might just go. You know what it’s the least we do. At least we are not being bombed.

Would posters on here put up with power cuts?

[Lancasterclaret]

I have spoken to about 20 people who all thought if it meant power cuts, we should just suck it up. It appears for now based on a very small sample people here might just go. You know what it’s the least we do. At least we are not being bombed.

Would posters on here put up with power cuts?

Thing is, if we don't stop him here, then his next thing will be a NATO country

But you are asking a lot of very selfish people (because there are a lot of them about) to possibly accept some restrictions to what they can do

[Claretnick]

I have spoken to about 20 people who all thought if it meant power cuts, we should just suck it up. It appears for now based on a very small sample people here might just go. You know what it’s the least we do. At least we are not being bombed.

Would posters on here put up with power cuts?

Absolutely.....

[Bordeauxclaret]

I have spoken to about 20 people who all thought if it meant power cuts, we should just suck it up. It appears for now based on a very small sample people here might just go. You know what it’s the least we do. At least we are not being bombed.

Would posters on here put up with power cuts?

I would think people would originally but patience would wane quite quickly.

[Lowbankclaret]

Sky just said it’s €800 million a day the west pays Russia for gas.

[Lowbankclaret]

Thing is, if we don't stop him here, then his next thing will be a NATO country

But you are asking a lot of very selfish people (because there are a lot of them about) to possibly accept some restrictions to what they can do

I agree Lancaster, 100%.

But I also agree some people will not care what’s going on in Ukraine or if he would attack us in the end. They look no farther than the end of their nose.

[bfcjg]

We are not as dependent on Russia gas as other European countries, hopefully would could increase electricity production here for heating and other purposes,use the assets seized to subsidise the cost. It will be who blinks first,as Lancaster said they will run out of money rapidly,when pensions,soldiers,civil servants and mercenaries don't get paid Putin won't know what's hit him.

[Lancasterclaret]

I would think people would originally but patience would wane quite quickly.

Be a good challenge of this blitz spirit some of our older people boast about*

*Well, those born in the 50s and 60s anyway

[Lowbankclaret]

We are not as dependent on Russia gas as other European countries, hopefully would could increase electricity production here for heating and other purposes,use the assets seized to subsidise the cost. It will be who blinks first,as Lancaster said they will run out of money rapidly,when pensions,soldiers,civil servants and mercenaries don't get paid Putin won't know what's hit him.

Well in this game of poker, that’s the gamble.
Question is who really holds the royal flush?

[Lancasterclaret]

Hostomel airport has been abandoned by the Russian troops, as has Chernobyl, plus a lot of towns and villages about Kyi'v. Chernigi'v and Sumy

Looks like a full withdrawal, certainly to somewhere where they might actually get supplied

[alboclaret]

We are not as dependent on Russia gas as other European countries, hopefully would could increase electricity production here for heating and other purposes,use the assets seized to subsidise the cost. It will be who blinks first,as Lancaster said they will run out of money rapidly,when pensions,soldiers,civil servants and mercenaries don't get paid Putin won't know what's hit him.

This


Along with let's do out bit.
It will/would be a ball ache but obviously nothing compared to others.

Call his bluff anyway.
We can't keep being weak at some point as a nation, continent we need to grow some and sort our selves our like we have in many other ways

[Lowbankclaret]

Wars through history have been fought over territory and resources. That’s why Putin wants Ukraine back with its bread basket amount of grain.

Putin is playing a massive game of poker here.

If by turning off the gas he creates a surge of normal people wanting their Govs to get involved in the war, he may find he was only ace high after all.

Lithuanian (I think it was him) President has said they will not pay in Rubles and they are 90% dependent on Russian gas.

[box_of_frogs]

Thing is, if we don't stop him here, then his next thing will be a NATO country

But you are asking a lot of very selfish people (because there are a lot of them about) to possibly accept some restrictions to what they can do

Sorry, but totally disagree about the NATO country part. He knows he can’t do that militarily as he knows full well what our arsenal is capable.

[Lowbankclaret]

Hostomel airport has been abandoned by the Russian troops, as has Chernobyl, plus a lot of towns and villages about Kyi'v. Chernigi'v and Sumy

Looks like a full withdrawal, certainly to somewhere where they might actually get supplied

You normally attach a link, where has this been said???

[KateR]

I have spoken to about 20 people who all thought if it meant power cuts, we should just suck it up. It appears for now based on a very small sample people here might just go. You know what it’s the least we do. At least we are not being bombed.

Would posters on here put up with power cuts?

Depends on your sample, if in the UK then there's really nothing to fear but fear itself, so little Russian gas can be easily compensated, however in Austria and Germany particularly they'll be in real trouble, many others in Europe will suffer to, including Bulgaria I believe as they're tied to the same feeder pipeline.

As I've said a couple of times, I'm somewhat surprised Ukraine did not do it early days.

[Lancasterclaret]

Sorry, but totally disagree about the NATO country part. He knows he can’t do that militarily as he knows full well what our arsenal is capable.

Not right now, but if he wins in Ukraine, then his next target will be a NATO country

[Lancasterclaret]

You normally attach a link, where has this been said???

You are quite right

Hostomel report

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/stat ... 0491766789

Map of recaptured villages and towns

https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1509581356669763588

[NewClaret]

A good analysis of the estimated losses, and the percentages. At this rate the Russian army will not be able to hold any ground in Ukraine.


https://twitter.com/anders_aslund/statu ... IIOKB8Jgtg

Thats a lot more planes and helicopters as a % than I thought. Still a very small % of soldiers.

[bpgburn]

Not right now, but if he wins in Ukraine, then his next target will be a NATO country

...and have his rag tag poorly equipped, poorly trained & depleted military met with NATO forces already amassed around the Borders?

[box_of_frogs]

Not right now, but if he wins in Ukraine, then his next target will be a NATO country

Nope, totally disagree. He’s tried to split NATO prior to this adventure. He failed. He now knows NATO will stand.

[Lancasterclaret]

...and have his rag tag poorly equipped, poorly trained & depleted military met with NATO forces already amassed around the Borders?

If he wins in Ukraine, then his reorganisation of his armed forces after that will make him a lot more dangerous, plus it would increase his feeling of invincibility, as well as massively increasing NATO border with him

He can't be allowed to win here

Full stop

[bpgburn]

If he wins in Ukraine, then his reorganisation of his armed forces after that will make him a lot more dangerous, plus it would increase his feeling of invincibility, as well as massively increasing NATO border with him

He can't be allowed to win here

Full stop

He would never be able to withstand the immediate arial assault, the west would quickly take control of the skies (IMO).

Of course he can't be allowed to win, that I agree with.