Name the next manager

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:10 pm

Fine with Bilic as well

I'd be fine with Wilder btw, but it would all be a bit meh, and I really need to not feel like going to Burnley is meh on a regular basis

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:15 pm

I know Lancaster it's a long way to travel

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:20 pm

I wonder what odds I'd get on this thread reaching, 100 pages before we appoint a new manager

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:30 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:07 pm
Fair enough. I've not.

you are probably a sane individual who has other things to do than watch too much footy though !

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:36 pm

KefkaClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:14 pm
I don't think Bilic is the man to keep us up or get us promoted next season. He struggled to get West Brom promoted.

Keep us up maybe not, but he's got a track record at getting out of the Championship on a relatively small budget, and that's exactly what we'll need next season should we go down.

And look at the state of West Brom since he left, I'd say he did a pretty fair job with them, and he also did great at West Ham for a period.

Bilic is probably one of the better options if we want to go down the experienced route, and he has knowledge of both the PL and the Championship.

Plus he's available right now as he's out of work currently.

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:36 pm

Blakesboots wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:01 pm
Personally, I would like us to offer the role to Emma Hayes. She is a premier league coach in the making!

Blake's boots, you only joined last Saturday and this is the third time at least, that you have touted Emma Hayes.

Emma, do you want the job?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:41 pm

Bilic , in addition to England, has managed in Croatia, Russia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and China...a well paid journeyman

Blakesboots · Post by **Blakesboots** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:55 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:36 pm
Blake's boots, you only joined last Saturday and this is the third time at least, that you have touted Emma Hayes.

Emma, do you want the job?

Second time. I think she is going to be an amazing manager in the premier league. I’d love Burnley to be the team she chooses to launch with.

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:09 pm

Blakesboots wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:55 pm
Second time. I think she is going to be an amazing manager in the premier league. I’d love Burnley to be the team she chooses to launch with.

Now, now Emma, it's 2 X Emma Hayes and another post where you refer to yourself as Emma.
That's 3 in my book.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:22 pm

A woman manager is right up Pace's list of things to attract business to Burnley Business.

Mind you....on reflection, I might vote for Cherie Lunghi!

Stockbrokerbelt · Post by **Stockbrokerbelt** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:13 pm

Won’t be Emma Haynes, could not get the England job due to historical
tweets that were homophobic, my bet is Claire Baldwin & I’d put money on her decking Von Klopp.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:44 am

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:10 pm
Fine with Bilic as well

I'd be fine with Wilder btw, but it would all be a bit meh, and I really need to not feel like going to Burnley is meh on a regular basis

Yuck......& Yuck........spent forces!

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:11 am

I think someone with continental connections would fit the owners recruitment model. Bilic would be ok but you have to question his motives. Anyone who goes to China is going purely for cash. It’s either the tried and tested route, an up and coming manager or someone from overseas. The last two options could be gambles. Are we looking to steady the ship and bounce back or completely change how we recruit and play ? I’m not sure Wilder excites me a great deal. A change in the way we play against different opposition would be an improvement instead of such a rigid predictable formula every game.

Chuckypad · Post by **Chuckypad** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:41 am

This might sound underwhelming but how about Chris Hughton?

I thought he did an excellent job at Brighton in both the Championship and the Premier League (I know his recent spell at Forest wasn't great, but that is a basket case of a club)

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:44 am

Chuckypad wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:41 am
This might sound underwhelming but how about Chris Hughton?

I thought he did an excellent job at Brighton in both the Championship and the Premier League (I know his recent spell at Forest wasn't great, but that is a basket case of a club)

They seem to be doing rather well since he left

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:47 am

Hughton is too similar to Dyche.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:49 am

Chuckypad wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:41 am
This might sound underwhelming but how about Chris Hughton?

I thought he did an excellent job at Brighton in both the Championship and the Premier League (I know his recent spell at Forest wasn't great, but that is a basket case of a club)

You can say Forest are a basket case but Cooper took over and will be the first manager ever to put a side without a point In the first 7 games into the play offs. We need to be aiming for a Cooper type.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:50 am

Murger wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:47 am
Hughton is too similar to Dyche.

I was a big fan of Hughton when he was at both Brighton and Newcastle, but he was very disappointing in his last two spells, which may have finished him off morale wise

Chuckypad · Post by **Chuckypad** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:50 am

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:44 am
They seem to be doing rather well since he left

Fair one

But of some of the names doing the rounds I think his experience and relative success in both leagues makes him the strongest of the 'meh' candidates.

Chuckypad · Post by **Chuckypad** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:52 am

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:50 am
I was a big fan of Hughton when he was at both Brighton and Newcastle, but he was very disappointing in his last two spells, which may have finished him off morale wise

He's only been at Forest since Brighton (I think?)

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:05 am

Hughton is 63.

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:05 am

Not keen on Hughton didn’t mind him until his handling of the Jay Rod situation and effectively branding our fanbase racist for booing Bong in a subsequent fixture.

On the basis of that he can take a running jump as far as I’m concerned.

Longsidelenny1882 · Post by **Longsidelenny1882** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:11 am

Keep saying it Rooney for me utc

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:13 am

Chuckypad wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:41 am
This might sound underwhelming but how about Chris Hughton?

I thought he did an excellent job at Brighton in both the Championship and the Premier League (I know his recent spell at Forest wasn't great, but that is a basket case of a club)

Aren't you bored enough at the Turf already?

I don't want to go to a football match to be bored. I put up with it from SD because of what he'd given us over the years and there were reasons, but from the start?

Not a chance for me

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:21 am

Neil critchley or corberon for me. Both managers we can build around for the future.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:23 am

Nixon saying Carvalhal in the frame

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:24 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:21 am
Neil critchley or corberon for me. Both managers we can build around for the future.

Critchley would be high on my list as well, but he doesn't appear to be one of the rumoured names in the frame surprisingly.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:27 am

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:24 am
Critchley would be high on my list as well, but he doesn't appear to be one of the rumoured names in the frame surprisingly.

Put it this way I certainly hope Nixon is wrong about carvalhal

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:33 am

Carvahal? No thanks. Done very well for Braga in his latest stint but never been good enough in England.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:35 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:27 am
Put it this way I certainly hope Nixon is wrong about carvalhal

Carvalhal smacks of a Laws MK II appointment, and he's had 21 clubs in his management career, averaging almost one a year, hardly suggests someone who'll be in it for the long haul.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:36 am

I don't mind Carvalhal

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:36 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:33 am
Carvahal? No thanks. Done very well for Braga in his latest stint but never been good enough in England.

The Sheff Wed fans will tell you otherwise

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:38 am

Not Rooney or any failures please.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:39 am

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:13 am
Aren't you bored enough at the Turf already?

I don't want to go to a football match to be bored. I put up with it from SD because of what he'd given us over the years and there were reasons, but from the start?

Not a chance for me

Agreed - shocking football and as has been evident recently was clearly holding Brighton back if anything.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:39 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:36 am
The Sheff Wed fans will tell you otherwise

Most sheff weds fan I could see on his leaving post seemed happy at it? It sounds like he spent an absolute fortune in his tenure which is a big reason they are in a mess now.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:40 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:39 am
Most sheff weds fan I could see on his leaving post seemed happy at it? It sounds like he spent an absolute fortune in his tenure which is a big reason they are in a mess now.

The Sheff Wed fans loved him mate, back to back playoffs. I don't agree with blaming managers for owners financial mismanagement.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:42 am

My best mate is a Wednesday fan and he just called me a clown for slagging Carvalhal off.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:42 am

Looks increasingly like the club are flailing around desperately ...clearly no plan in place

williamjblazkowicz · Post by **williamjblazkowicz** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:42 am

If we were to hire Carvalhal, we would be the 20th club he's managed

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:42 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:40 am
The Sheff Wed fans loved him mate, back to back playoffs. I don't agree with blaming managers for owners financial mismanagement.

There’s a sheff weds fan replied to Nixons post saying 1 decent season and then fell away rapidly.

Not sure tbh, he certainly not a manager I thought we would go for or be remotely interested in. Very much smacks of desperation to me.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:46 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:42 am
There’s a sheff weds fan replied to Nixons post saying 1 decent season and then fell away rapidly.

Not sure tbh, he certainly not a manager I thought we would go for or be remotely interested in. Very much smacks of desperation to me.

They reached the Play off final and then finished 4th. Which is one good season? surely that's 2. Rio Ave record points haul, won the Portuguese cup last year with Braga, they were in the EL quarter finals, lost a close tie to Rangers with 9 men. He wouldn't be top of my list but neither would Critchley at Blackpool who's achieved nowhere near the same.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:48 am

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 25945.html

This is an interesting article on him reinventing himself in Portugal with a new tactical approach

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:48 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:46 am
They reached the Play off final and then finished 4th. Which is one good season? surely that's 2. Rio Ave record points haul, won the Portuguese cup last year with Braga, they were in the EL quarter finals, lost a close tie to Rangers with 9 men. He wouldn't be top of my list but neither would Critchley at Blackpool who's achieved nowhere near the same.

I personally don’t see Carvalhal as someone to come in a build a club around. He’s a journeyman.

Would be the totally wrong appointment in my opinion. We need someone to come in and build the club back up. I think if he came in would be out of desperation. (I.E none of the original targets were available)

williamjblazkowicz · Post by **williamjblazkowicz** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:49 am

Sky Sports speak to Dean Marney who says that, in his opinion, Burnley may want a "young, up-and-coming manager". He mentions Michael Duff (my first choice) and Wayne Rooney.

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... ley-go-for

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:49 am

Logic from some of you makes no sense. Dyche who has 2 promotions from 2 full seasons is not good enough anymore, but Carvalhal who has 2 play-offs from the same amount of seasons + a relegation with Swansea is suddenly a good appointment.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:52 am

I don't have an issue with the thinking here

Look, if we are going to change how we play and how we approach games, then this summer with all the out of contract players is the perfect time to do it

I just don't want to be bored at football matches anymore, and anyone who can get us attacking a lot more with better football will get my support

I'll really struggle with more of the same unfortunately

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:53 am

ervi34 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:49 am
Logic from some of you makes no sense. Dyche who has 2 promotions from 2 full seasons is not good enough anymore, but Carvalhal who has 2 play-offs from the same amount of seasons + a relegation with Swansea is suddenly a good appointment.

Historical results doesn't mean everything, if football was played based on previous results, the same team would win the same trophy every season.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:57 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:53 am
Historical results doesn't mean everything, if football was played based on previous results, the same team would win the same trophy every season.

No but they are a good indicator of pedigree. That’s why the top managers keep getting top jobs.

Real Madrid didn’t sign Ancelotti based on his Everton form. They based it on the fact he has won championship in 4 of europes top 5 leagues. He is currently set to make it 5 out of 5 the first manager ever to do that.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:57 am

You could also flip that logic and say Carvajal reached the Europa League quarter finals and lost in extra time with 9 men, Dyche couldn't even get out of the qualifying rounds.

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:59 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:53 am
Historical results doesn't mean everything, if football was played based on previous results, the same team would win the same trophy every season.

Why do you think Carvalhal would be a good appointment? His previous record in English football shows that he's a decent mid-table Championship manager, nothing more. The fact that he's won a cup in a weak Portugal league means absolutely nothing to me. If we go with your logic, why don't we bring Brian Laws back? Historical results mean nothing so he could improve us.

And I seriously think that many of you overestimate achievements while evaluating a manager. There are several clubs who perform well each season, but that doesn't mean their manager is a new Mourinho.

For example, I live in Croatia and sporadically watch Dinamo games. They had some decent results in Europa League over the last few years but I would never touch any of their managers.