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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:11 am

depechedingle wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 8:38 pm
The process of losing my virginity was quicker than this, and my God did that drag on!!!! 😳
Let me know how you cracked it. I could use some help!
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by mybloodisclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:22 am

Dark Cloud wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:11 am
Let me know how you cracked it. I could use some help!
I think mine has grown back.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Stayingup » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:04 am

helmclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:54 am
It’s not as simple as that unfortunately. I’ve been trying to get my wife and son a visa to move to the UK for the last 2 years.

The current Home Office is incredibly hostile and unwelcoming to foreign nationals, even if they are married to a Brit.

There is a basic human right to a ‘family life.’ However, this current Home Office have done away with that and encourage you to move away to your partners country of origin.

I’d imagine Kompany’s ‘star status’ will go a long way to ensuring his WP is approved though in this instance.
Easiest way is get on a raft from Calais. The RNL will bring her in.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:06 am

Stayingup wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:04 am
Easiest way is get on a raft from Calais. The RNL will bring her in.
And his wife will then be in Rwanda

Doesn't help anyone that does it?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:12 am

spt_claret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 11:58 pm
Assuming this screenshot is real and not some Photoshopped social media manipulation, wouldn't this mean ALK had been talking to Kompany while he was at Anderlecht, and while Dyche was still manager? That seems...well, I know Bolton did similar to us with Coyle but still unlikely. I don't see how that would fit with these delays, as it would mean we've had 6 weeks at least to get the work permit etc. sorted.
Suppose this is the way of social media, a few pictures and words and the rumour mill gets going but this seems really odd and not something I'm all that inclined to believe.
That is a real message from the person who asked multiple websites for odds on Kompany to Burnley as soon as Dyche was sacked, most of the bookies didn't even have Kompany on the list.

I don't know how true the story is of course but the guy has called it bang on in the end.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:15 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:06 am
And his wife will then be in Rwanda

Doesn't help anyone that does it?
Not in this scenario but certainly helpful in others.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:16 am

Has he signed yet? .......

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:17 am

Twitter is really quiet about it

Which is a good thing

Can't see it happening with the Jubilee thing going on so next week

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:17 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:15 am
Not in this scenario but certainly helpful in others.
Not at all

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:20 am

spt_claret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 11:58 pm
Assuming this screenshot is real and not some Photoshopped social media manipulation, wouldn't this mean ALK had been talking to Kompany while he was at Anderlecht, and while Dyche was still manager? That seems...well, I know Bolton did similar to us with Coyle but still unlikely. I don't see how that would fit with these delays, as it would mean we've had 6 weeks at least to get the work permit etc. sorted.
Suppose this is the way of social media, a few pictures and words and the rumour mill gets going but this seems really odd and not something I'm all that inclined to believe.
It could have been the case that Dyche was planning on going anyway at the end of the season ( either by his choice or the owners). On that basis you would expect the club to do some research or put out a few feelers for a successor. I half wonder if Pace knew Dyche planned to take all the coaching staff and that is why a decision was made early.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by spt_claret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:27 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:20 am
It could have been the case that Dyche was planning on going anyway at the end of the season ( either by his choice or the owners). On that basis you would expect the club to do some research or put out a few feelers for a successor. I half wonder if Pace knew Dyche planned to take all the coaching staff and that is why a decision was made early.
Can understand the succession planning as you say if the intention was a change at the end of the season. But that second point re. coaching staff- that would be absolute suicide by Pace. Why force the issue to replace the coaching staff midseason during a relegation fight? If they were all going at the end of the season at least there's then a close season to get everyone in and if you're succession planning already can prep for that. Would make no sense to do that early when there's crunch games to play. Which again is why I'm not sure how much stock I place in this claim of early talks. And again, wouldn't gel with the work permit holdup.
The only way that makes sense is if the plan was Kompany in the summer so the WP issue kept on the back burner, but then for some reason Dyche gets unexpectedly potted premature, and minimal prep work was done on the work permit since.
All in all, baffling. Just want the announcement ASAP at this point.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:30 am

spt_claret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 11:58 pm
Assuming this screenshot is real and not some Photoshopped social media manipulation, wouldn't this mean ALK had been talking to Kompany while he was at Anderlecht, and while Dyche was still manager? That seems...well, I know Bolton did similar to us with Coyle but still unlikely. I don't see how that would fit with these delays, as it would mean we've had 6 weeks at least to get the work permit etc. sorted.
Suppose this is the way of social media, a few pictures and words and the rumour mill gets going but this seems really odd and not something I'm all that inclined to believe.
I’d be surprised if they hadn’t. It was always the plan to bring in an interim manager until the end of the season and then a permanent one in the summer. That suggests they knew who they wanted and that usually means they’ve spoken with the preferred candidate(s).

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:30 am

Probably be next week now given the long weekend from tomorrow

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:34 am

Plus if we've been in contact and interested for a long time, then he knows what we are about, and we will know what he's about, and that is a good thing

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:39 am

Wouldn’t it be great if it got announced today, so that everyone could enjoy their weekend .
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretAndJew » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:45 am

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:39 am
Wouldn’t it be great if it got announced today, so that everyone could enjoy their weekend .
Is the enjoyment of your weekend hindering on this announcement?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:47 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:30 am
Probably be next week now given the long weekend from tomorrow
It’s Americans signing a Belgian. They don’t give a hoot about Lizzie.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by randomclaret2 » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:52 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:47 am
It’s Americans signing a Belgian. They don’t give a hoot about Lizzie.
No, but the lawyers and work permit folks do
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:53 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:45 am
Is the enjoyment of your weekend hindering on this announcement?
Absolutely not, but it’s evident that a lot of people would like this to be put to bed, I was speaking with others in mind . I will personally enjoy my weekend as much as possible, regardless of who does what, where and in which walks of life, never mind just things revolving around Burnley football club .
For your clarification CnJ

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:53 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:47 am
It’s Americans signing a Belgian. They don’t give a hoot about Lizzie.
I’d say more so that there will be a lack of staff at hand to deal with the announcement, content creation and social media etc. And if the work permit isn’t done by today then I don’t think they’ll process it over public hols

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by eastcoastclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:56 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:53 am
I’d say more so that there will be a lack of staff at hand to deal with the announcement, content creation and social media etc. And if the work permit isn’t done by today then I don’t think they’ll process it over public hols
I think all that will already be created and ready to publish once the paperwork is done.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by bf2k » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:01 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:53 am
I’d say more so that there will be a lack of staff at hand to deal with the announcement, content creation and social media etc. And if the work permit isn’t done by today then I don’t think they’ll process it over public hols
If that is the case that's p*ss poor. This is bloody important that we have a manager (the right manager) in place asap. Balls to the holidays get back and get it sorted. However, having said that I can't see anything to do with the media side at the club holding this up.

Wouldn't it be nice though for a bit of communication from the club to reassure fans and give a bit of an update on where things are. Communication eh! It's brilliant :roll:

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:05 am

bf2k wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:01 am
If that is the case that's p*ss poor. This is bloody important that we have a manager (the right manager) in place asap. Balls to the holidays get back and get it sorted. However, having said that I can't see anything to do with the media side at the club holding this up.

Wouldn't it be nice though for a bit of communication from the club to reassure fans and give a bit of an update on where things are. Communication eh! It's brilliant :roll:
Been done to death the communication bit, and I'm not sure what sort of communication you put out there when you are in the process of sorting out the small print of a managerial announcement that everyone whose job it is to know and tell everyone told everyone it was happening last Thursday

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by daveisaclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:07 am

There's no chance the media side holds things up. It almost certainly won't be until next week but the idea that we would wait to announce it when all of the announcements/introductions will be sat ready to post is just silly. Even if nobody who works on the media side is working or willing to log on for five minutes, Pace could just announce it himself.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by bf2k » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:08 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:05 am
...and I'm not sure what sort of communication you put out there when you are in the process of sorting out the small print of a managerial announcement that everyone whose job it is to know and tell everyone told everyone it was happening last Thursday
That's what these public relations type positions are paid to do. We've never heard officially what the hold up is.
Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:05 am
Been done to death the communication bit...
Done to death yet still as poor as ever. When will the club learn?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by spt_claret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:15 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:30 am
I’d be surprised if they hadn’t. It was always the plan to bring in an interim manager until the end of the season and then a permanent one in the summer. That suggests they knew who they wanted and that usually means they’ve spoken with the preferred candidate(s).
I assume this means they also headhunted for an interim manager? Can't see how the plan was always to get rid of all our first team coaching staff for an inexperienced interim manager, mid relegation fight, 2 days before a game.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:17 am

bf2k wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:08 am
That's what these public relations type positions are paid to do. We've never heard officially what the hold up is.



Done to death yet still as poor as ever. When will the club learn?
So you want daily updates on it?

Is this to do with a reluctance to trust info from the internet (even if its been spot on for years from verified sources)?

Its agreed, it was agreed last Thursday, and its just sorting out some unspecified details that no one whose job it is to know these things is worried about it affecting the deal

That is good enough for me

I do agree that the club need to improve on the communication stuff away from the first team

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by bf2k » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:46 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:17 am
So you want daily updates on it?
Come on don't silly. You know what I mean.
Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:17 am
Is this to do with a reluctance to trust info from the internet (even if its been spot on for years from verified sources)?
Who's this trusted for year source? But yes nothing more concrete than an official statement/press release.
Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:17 am
Its agreed, it was agreed last Thursday, and its just sorting out some unspecified details that no one whose job it is to know these things is worried about it affecting the deal
That is good enough for me
Good for you, but it's not for me and a few others by what I'm reading
Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:17 am
I do agree that the club need to improve on the communication stuff away from the first team
We can agree on something then :)

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:56 am

bf2k wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:46 am
Come on don't silly. You know what I mean.

Who's this trusted for year source? But yes nothing more concrete than an official statement/press release.

Good for you, but it's not for me and a few others by what I'm reading

We can agree on something then :)
I wasn't being silly, I wondered what sort of info you wanted and and on what times scale

If you rely on the club being the only source of trusted information then there is nothing that can be done I'm afraid. Its agreed, it was agreed last Thursday but there are some minor stuff to be worked out that no one whose jobs depend on knowing this kind of thing is bothered about

All I'm seeing (with the greatest respect to you and the few others) is a fear that it will fall through, but based on nothing other than "well, its fallen through before"

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by clarethomer » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:08 pm

I would have thought that the club would have communicated the following so far;

- thank you for your support this season type message from the board and doing this on behalf of the playing/coaching staff.

- a message of confirmation that whilst players are going off on a well earned break, the board is still progressing the replacement of SD. They expect that this process should be completed shortly or within a few weeks etc.

It’s not difficult to do so not sure why we haven’t heard anything like this.

However, it doesn’t change anything even if they had of communicated these things- we are still non the wiser on the things we want to know.

I can imagine that the lack of communication is probably not seen as an issue for the club for this very reason. I’m reasonably relaxed about the no communication but can see why it’s just seen as poor when there were probably a couple of comms could have made a small bit positive impression for those fans who still trying to understand the owners and their approach to running the club.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:12 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:56 am
Its agreed, it was agreed last Thursday but there are some minor stuff to be worked out that no one whose jobs depend on knowing this kind of thing is bothered about
That must be one hell of a source you’ve got
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:13 pm

The narrative that we approached Kompany yonks ago as Dyche was on his way at the end of the season and was going to take all the coaching staff with him doesn’t make sense, seeing as he and his coaching staff are still out of a job and there aren’t any murmurings of any impending appointments.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:17 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:12 pm
That must be one hell of a source you’ve got
Tony please

You've said its almost done on here, and the journalists whose actual job it is have as well

Have you heard anything that the journalists whose actual job this is have missed then?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Jamesy » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:12 pm
That must be one hell of a source you’ve got
Lea and Perrins probably.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:21 pm

Nixon still seems confident it’s small details of the contract and work permits

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:23 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:20 pm
Lea and Perrins probably.
Sadly just journalists online

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by JTClaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:29 pm

If only we didn't have a habit of an exciting rumour at the start of a window, only to drag on the whole way through and we end up with nothing, or at least far less than we need.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by dsr » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:40 pm

They need to get a move on. The first league game is next month.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by spt_claret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:45 pm

clarethomer wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:08 pm
I would have thought that the club would have communicated the following so far;

- thank you for your support this season type message from the board and doing this on behalf of the playing/coaching staff.

- a message of confirmation that whilst players are going off on a well earned break, the board is still progressing the replacement of SD. They expect that this process should be completed shortly or within a few weeks etc.

It’s not difficult to do so not sure why we haven’t heard anything like this.
They have done the former and the latter is inherently obvious and adds nothing. I'm not a fan of the new owners and do think there's been terrible communication on some issues- finances and the academy- but this particular example really doesn't strike me as an issue.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Nori1958 » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:55 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:21 pm
Nixon still seems confident it’s small details of the contract and work permits
I think also the lack of any other names being linked to the job indicates its 100% done.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by dandeclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:57 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:34 am
Plus if we've been in contact and interested for a long time, then he knows what we are about, and we will know what he's about, and that is a good thing
And it's beneficlal for him to see early the speed that the club tends to operate at......
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by brexit » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:11 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:53 am
Absolutely not, but it’s evident that a lot of people would like this to be put to bed, I was speaking with others in mind . I will personally enjoy my weekend as much as possible, regardless of who does what, where and in which walks of life, never mind just things revolving around Burnley football club .
For your clarification CnJ
Can I just remind everyone that not everyone has Bank Holidays this week. Those of us working for the EU aren't allowed Jubilee tat on our desks. I will be thinking of you all on Friday waving a union jack in the Parc de l'Orangerie

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by eastcoastclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:14 pm

Not many Jubilee flags in Florence either but strangely lots of flags with one single word on them "Pace"

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by The Enclosure » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:16 pm

Why are there always problems with everything that Burnley FC get involved with?
Irrespective of delays in getting a new manager over the line,I really do think it shows a lack of respect by the Chairman to the fans, not to have made some comment on what the plans are going forward

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:23 pm

A long bank holiday weekend didn’t stop us announcing the sacking of our last manager.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:24 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:23 pm
A long bank holiday weekend didn’t stop us announcing the sacking of our last manager.
Very true. Though that was just a short statement. I'd imagine the announcement of the manager will come with interviews, press conferences, lots of content etc.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:25 pm

Well in that case those staff have to work.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:26 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:17 pm
Tony please

You've said its almost done on here, and the journalists whose actual job it is have as well

Have you heard anything that the journalists whose actual job this is have missed then?
I pick on things as often as I can but I’ve never been aware of anything having been done last Thursday.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:26 pm
I pick on things as often as I can but I’ve never been aware of anything having been done last Thursday.
Course you haven't

Jesus

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:26 pm
I pick on things as often as I can but I’ve never been aware of anything having been done last Thursday.
You did a post in here saying you believe it’s all done / agreed, same day Boden said the same
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