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by Jakubs Tash » Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:49 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:07 am
Nixon linking us with Blackpool right back Jordan Gabriel, as Connor Roberts may attract PL attention.
To be honest, that’s pretty much the last position I was hoping for a link to.
I must say I’d be surprised that Roberts gets a move back to the Prem, though Forest with Cooper (played for him at Swansea) might look to him, with Spence probably going to Spurs.
Also, James McAtee from City linked with a loan to Huddersfield, he’s the exact player we need and should be all over, I’d be really disappointed if he goes to Huddersfield.
I know nothing about Gabriel at Blackpool.
Roberts going would be strange but I wonder if we can make a decent profit on him as we really nicked him last summer for £2.5m and, like you say, Cooper likes him and Forest are losing their right wing back of last season by the looks of it.
I too was hoping for more attacking/midfield players to be linked as this is where we need the biggest shift in the squad in my opinion and I agree that McAtee at Man City looks excellent and just the sort of player we need.
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by Pearcey » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:07 am
Lowts is more than capable in the Chamionship so if we can make a good profit then it makes sense. Bit galling to lose players to newly promoted sides though isn’t it. That’s if it is Forest.
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by RVclaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:18 am
Pearcey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:07 am
Lowts is more than capable in the Chamionship so if we can make a good profit then it makes sense. Bit galling to lose players to newly promoted sides though isn’t it. That’s if it is Forest.
Yeah, can’t see anyone else in the PL who’d want Roberts tbh, he wasn’t exactly great last season.
Kompany will want a more attacking full back than Lowton, hence the Gabriel link.
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by Jakubs Tash » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:21 am
Maybe Kompany is going to try and move Lowton on….
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:30 am
Seems a strange one. I was adamant that Roberts would be one of the players that would thrive under Kompany. Saw that Gabriel a couple of times last season, he’s decent to be fair
Where are the links to forwards and CMs would have thought that was the main priority this summer (again)
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by Funkydrummer » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:31 am
Will Roberts want another relegation battle on his hands ? They can have that Dutch guy though.
I suppose money talks.
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by RVclaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:34 am
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:30 am
Seems a strange one. I was adamant that Roberts would be one of the players that would thrive under Kompany. Saw that Gabriel a couple of times last season, he’s decent to be fair
Where are the links to forwards and CMs would have thought that was the main priority this summer (again)
Let’s say Roberts goes for close to 10m, that’s more than tripling our money on him in a year, then replacing with another lower cost player. Seems that’s the ALK model really.
Agree with the last part - no links to more technical players is a bit concerning, particularly given the supposed VK contacts at City, thought we’d be first in the queue for McAtee.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:36 am
A few links of Norris to Luton this morning as well
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by RVclaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:37 am
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:36 am
A few links of Norris to Luton this morning as well
No surprise, we’ve got a few too many keepers.
Sounds like Harwood Bellis could be our first signing of the summer.
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by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:38 am
He’s just revealed one new name we are linked with this morning. Doesn’t mean that we aren’t actively seeking out more technical players etc
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:38 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:34 am
Let’s say Roberts goes for close to 10m, that’s more than tripling our money on him in a year, then replacing with another lower cost player. Seems that’s the ALK model really.
Agree with the last part - no links to more technical players is a bit concerning, particularly given the supposed VK contacts at City, thought we’d be first in the queue for McAtee.
I agree on the profit making side. Just seems a strange move Gabriel is decent but not convinced he’s promotion worthy. He was third choice right back at Forrest 6 months ago. However he only cost Blackpool half a mil. So maybe we can pick him up for around 1 mil. They double there money and we cover a position.
I agree I thought macatee was almost a certain loan signing for us.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:39 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:37 am
No surprise, we’ve got a few too many keepers.
Sounds like Harwood Bellis could be our first signing of the summer.
He would be a very solid first signing
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by burnley007 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:44 am
How do we make profit on loans?
This doesn't make sense to me
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:45 am
burnley007 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:44 am
How do we make profit on loans?
This doesn't make sense to me
What do you mean?
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by BurnleyFC » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:54 am
If we could get anywhere near £10m for Roberts, we’d be daft to turn it down.
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by NewClaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:59 am
Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:38 am
He’s just revealed one new name we are linked with this morning. Doesn’t mean that we aren’t actively seeking out more technical players etc
Who’s the new player?
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by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:00 am
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:59 am
Who’s the new player?
The Gabriel story
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by NewClaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:12 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:34 am
Let’s say Roberts goes for close to 10m, that’s more than tripling our money on him in a year, then replacing with another lower cost player. Seems that’s the ALK model really.
To be honest, I’m not sure anyone knows what the ALK model is yet. People will quote the net spend, forgetting the forced sale of Wood for £25m. Otherwise they’ve been investors vs sellers so far.
But one thing I’m pretty confident in is that ALK’s model involves us in the Premiership and that is not best achieved by selling established internationals and replacing them with inferior players on the cheap.
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by Spijed » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:19 am
Based on form last season Lowton performed better than Roberts.
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by BOYSIE31 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:21 am
Don't see any Norwich or Watford players getting linked anywhere else so why can't we hold onto our better players for at least one more season and give it a good go at getting back up 1st time of asking
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by Pearcey » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:33 am
BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:21 am
Don't see any Norwich or Watford players getting linked anywhere else so why can't we hold onto our better players for at least one more season and give it a good go at getting back up 1st time of asking
Max Aarons is being linked and Rashica wants away but other than them, Norwich don’t really have anyone who’d be desirable.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Watford lose Dennis and Sarr among others.
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by ervi34 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:39 am
Pearcey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:33 am
Max Aarons is being linked and Rashica wants away but other than them, Norwich don’t really have anyone who’d be desirable.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Watford lose Dennis and Sarr among others.
Watford will certainly lose Dennis, Sarr and Sissoko
Maybe even Kamara and Louza.
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by Mattster » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:56 am
Part of the footballing world.
Comes down to what a team needs. Allison is a better "modern" goalkeeper than Courtois but had Allison been in nets for Real Madrid then Liverpool take home the Champions League trophy instead.
Coincidentally, Pope is one of the top 4 shot stoppers in world football alongside Courtois (
https://twitter.com/smarterscout/status ... rlvSw&s=19).
Because one aspect of his game is lacking doesn't make him a worse goalkeeper but it just means he won't be a fit for most top level teams.
The issue Pope is facing is that there isn't a top level team with a vacancy that would prefer a keeper like him. In the PL he'd be perfect at Spurs or Chelsea, out of place at Liverpool, City, Arsenal and (now, under Ten Hag) United.
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by claretandy » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:56 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:07 am
Nixon linking us with Blackpool right back Jordan Gabriel, as Connor Roberts may attract PL attention.
To be honest, that’s pretty much the last position I was hoping for a link to.
I must say I’d be surprised that Roberts gets a move back to the Prem, though Forest with Cooper (played for him at Swansea) might look to him, with Spence probably going to Spurs.
Also, James McAtee from City linked with a loan to Huddersfield, he’s the exact player we need and should be all over, I’d be really disappointed if he goes to Huddersfield.
This sounds like planning for what if's more than anything.
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by Dodobdobodobo » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:58 am
Signed already apparently

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by RVclaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:00 am
claretandy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:56 am
This sounds like planning for what if's more than anything.
True
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by Mattster » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:01 am
burnley007 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:44 am
How do we make profit on loans?
This doesn't make sense to me
We'll need to be smart in the market, where we can't find affordable quality we'll want to plug those gaps with loans which will cost significantly less. A player of Harwood-Bellis' quality/potential would be north of £10m.
Get the loan in, save the money for a different area of the pitch where a player with potential/resale value may be affordable.
Who knows, if we get promoted with him as a key player and he really settles into the club we may be able to buy him next summer (with a buyback clause for City).
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by Dodobdobodobo » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:02 am
Dodobdobodobo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:58 am
Signed already apparently
Sorry meant to say Harwood Bellis
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by RVclaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:05 am
Dodobdobodobo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:02 am
Sorry meant to say Harwood Bellis
Interesting, reliable source?
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by Smile » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:06 am
burnley007 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:44 am
How do we make profit on loans?
By them helping us get a promotion.
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by NewClaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:07 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:05 am
Interesting, reliable source?
I’m hoping there’s at least a few lined up or very close, given pre-season starts in [8] days!?!
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by MACCA » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:22 am
They say no news is good news...
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by CoolClaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:31 am
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by Dodobdobodobo » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:05 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:05 am
Interesting, reliable source?
Definitely

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by RVclaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:47 am
Mattster wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:56 am
Part of the footballing world.
Comes down to what a team needs. Allison is a better "modern" goalkeeper than Courtois but had Allison been in nets for Real Madrid then Liverpool take home the Champions League trophy instead.
Coincidentally, Pope is one of the top 4 shot stoppers in world football alongside Courtois (
https://twitter.com/smarterscout/status ... rlvSw&s=19).
Because one aspect of his game is lacking doesn't make him a worse goalkeeper but it just means he won't be a fit for most top level teams.
The issue Pope is facing is that there isn't a top level team with a vacancy that would prefer a keeper like him. In the PL he'd be perfect at Spurs or Chelsea, out of place at Liverpool, City, Arsenal and (now, under Ten Hag) United.
Great post and fascinating stat.
Newcastle would be absolutely daft to not pick him up.
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by tiger76 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:04 pm
BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:21 am
Don't see any Norwich or Watford players getting linked anywhere else so why can't we hold onto our better players for at least one more season and give it a good go at getting back up 1st time of asking
Many reasons, relegation clauses, needing to trim the wage bill, and some players wanting away, plus any new manager wanting to bring his own style to the club, but the main reason is servicing the debt repayments sadly, also some players we may have wished to keep are OOC, so we have no choice in whether they stay or go.
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by warksclaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:33 pm
tiger76 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:04 pm
Many reasons, relegation clauses, needing to trim the wage bill, and some players wanting away, plus any new manager wanting to bring his own style to the club, but the main reason is servicing the debt repayments sadly, also some players we may have wished to keep are OOC, so we have no choice in whether they stay or go.
Plus I dont think Watford and Norwich have as many 30+ aged players as us. With games coming thick and fast in the Championship, you need younger legs and quick recovery
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by warksclaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:05 pm
Would Kompany have knowledge of Championship players ? This seems a strange one as it would indicate the departure of Roberts
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by Quicknick » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:11 pm
So not Harwood-Bellis, or whatever he's called?
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by NewClaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:14 pm
warksclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:05 pm
Would Kompany have knowledge of Championship players ? This seems a strange one as it would indicate the departure of Roberts
Pretty certain this one is a Nixon link that won’t come to anything, like Neil, Knight, Vaughan, etc. the Harwood Bellis one seems more credible to me.
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by Smile » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:33 pm
Quicknick wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:11 pm
So not Harwood-Bellis, or whatever he's called?
Gabriel is a right-back and Harwood-Bellis is central. So it could very well be both.
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by RVclaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:35 pm
Quicknick wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:11 pm
So not Harwood-Bellis, or whatever he's called?
Lancs live are just quoting Nixon.
In his article he also said we are hot faves to sign Harwood Bellis.
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by Rileybobs » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:36 pm
warksclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:05 pm
Would Kompany have knowledge of Championship players ? This seems a strange one as it would indicate the departure of Roberts
I doubt very much that it would be within Kompany’s remit to identify players.
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The Irish fans love Josh Cullen. Hopefully we’re in for him.
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by RVclaret » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:51 pm
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:36 pm
I doubt very much that it would be within Kompany’s remit to identify players.
Pretty sure he would have his own short list - eg Harwood bellis
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by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:53 pm
Pearcey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:39 pm
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The Irish fans love Josh Cullen. Hopefully we’re in for him.
They loved Andy Townsend. Let's not get too carried away.
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by Rileybobs » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:53 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:51 pm
Pretty sure he would have his own short list - eg Harwood bellis
Yeah, he will have some players he’s worked with or knows from Man City etc. I’m just saying that we have people responsible for identifying players, so I don’t think Kompany needs to have an in depth knowledge of Blackpool’s squad, for example.
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by Guitargeorge » Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:31 pm
Maybe Roberts has a role further forward and we need cover at RB?
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by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:46 pm
Or we are moving Lowton on….or just planning for when he leaves next summer. I don’t know anything of Gabriel but presumably he has the energy to be the attacking outlet as Kompany seemingly likes his fullbacks to have
Having ample cover is a good thing, competition brings the best out of players .
We need other positions filling though first I do ageee