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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:37 am
I'm sure we would have
So the new owners are no different to the new ones... Or any other owners we've had over the years, which goes against what many are saying on here, that we're only selling because we are in debt and there foreign

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:27 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:16 pm
So the new owners are no different to the new ones... Or any other owners we've had over the years, which goes against what many are saying on here, that we're only selling because we are in debt and there foreign
bla bla bla they're no different to whatever, the new owners have just deducted £180m from the club to pay for their own seat at the club.

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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:30 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:58 pm
How was it not our first 11? It was our strongest possible side.
I seem to remember a few missing.... But hey

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Post by Mattster » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:30 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:35 pm
I was hoping for Zirkzee, Vinicius Souza, Amuzu, Vrioni, Verschaeren, Sergio Gomez, Muleka, Flemming, Szymanksi types, more established young players around Europe who've performed very well and might cost £5-10m.
lmao

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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:38 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:27 pm
bla bla bla they're no different to whatever, the new owners have just deducted £180m from the club to pay for their own seat at the club.
I meant old owners, serves me right for not proof reading

Whatever the reason, players are always sold on relegation, sometimes it's their choice
If you think pope and Collins are only sold because we owe money, then you're living in a world that isn't the real one..... Those players WANT to play at the highest level, now in case you ain't noticed, we're not at that level anymore.... And before you ask the question, the answer is Garlick and Co.
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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:55 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:16 pm
So the new owners are no different to the new ones... Or any other owners we've had over the years, which goes against what many are saying on here, that we're only selling because we are in debt and there foreign
Nothing to do with where they are from but it is apparent that we are not in as healthy a position financially as we were last time we went down.

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Post by Steddyman » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:56 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:27 pm
bla bla bla they're no different to whatever, the new owners have just deducted £180m from the club to pay for their own seat at the club.
Get over it, it's happened. Either accept it and move onto supporting the team, or move on.
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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:11 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:30 pm
lmao
What's funny?

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:12 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:30 pm
I seem to remember a few missing.... But hey
well that's the point aint it, possible those missing aren't possibilities

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Post by Mattster » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:18 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:11 pm
What's funny?
That you think Championship Burnley could be signing the likes of Sergio Gomez, Yari Verschaeren, Joshua Zirkzee and Sebastian Szymanski. Players that would have been outside shots at best for Premiership Burnley managed by Kompany.

And that you think that they would be available for £5 - 10m.

Take your pick.
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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:19 pm

Back to links, heavily linked with Rafael Camacho from Sporting, was at Liverpool years ago. 22 yr old supposedly putting off a move to Aris hoping we up our interest

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Post by Oldparkwood » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:22 pm

This message board is just full of posters more interested in getting one up-man-ship against each other it’s pathetic.
I’m sure this post will get ripped by the usual suspects. Saying don’t bother coming on etc etc. I just feel it’s a shame as it used to be quite informative and fun. Now it’s just toxic. I feel for the moderators
So on that not I bid you farewell
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Post by Claretnick » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:25 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:19 pm
Back to links, heavily linked with Rafael Camacho from Sporting, was at Liverpool years ago. 22 yr old supposedly putting off a move to Aris hoping we up our interest
Would a work permit be an issue for this lad, don't think he has won a full international cap

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:27 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:18 pm
That you think Championship Burnley could be signing the likes of Sergio Gomez, Yari Verschaeren, Joshua Zirkzee and Sebastian Szymanski. Players that would have been outside shots at best for Premiership Burnley managed by Kompany.

And that you think that they would be available for £5 - 10m.

Take your pick.
Yari is a young god, didn't have the best end to last year, was really in and out.

Gomez is the one who's probably the most ambitious on the list, given his consistency at left back last season, I still see him as more of a midfielder though. Transfrmarket.com has his value at £9M. 1 year after Anderlecht paid £2m.

Szymanski's agent revealed he was close to signing for Hertha, they scraped past Hamburg in the relegation playoff. 6 months on, maybe his value has recently rocketed with the internationals, I'd be surprised if he went considerably over £10m being a relatively unknown from Russia.

Zirkzee has 1 year left at Bayern, they don't want him, 8 million euros was the quoted fee I read.

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:31 pm

Fretters wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:40 am
Probably nothing in it but Todd Cantwell, who has been heavily linked with Blackburn, has 'liked' a post on Twitter about Kompany being appointed. Be funny if we gazumped them.
Does anyone have an image of this? I’m not on Twitter so imagine I can’t see ‘likes’.

Understand RV’s point on this. There was once a time where I’d have been hard pushed to decide who I’d prefer to sign from Norwich - Cantwell or Buendia. I’m a massive Buesndia fan too, but there was a certain dynamism that Cantwell had. For a low fee I’d 100% back VK to turn his career around.

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Post by Smile » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:34 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:31 pm
Does anyone have an image of this? I’m not on Twitter so imagine I can’t see ‘likes’.

Understand RV’s point on this. There was once a time where I’d have been hard pushed to decide who I’d prefer to sign from Norwich - Cantwell or Buendia. I’m a massive Buesndia fan too, but there was a certain dynamism that Cantwell had. For a low fee I’d 100% back VK to turn his career around.
The only thing I found was a Rovers fan who looks like the lowest of society, tweeting: "Todd Cantwell hates Burnley"

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Post by Mattster » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:37 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:27 pm
Yari is a young god, didn't have the best end to last year, was really in and out.

Gomez is the one who's probably the most ambitious on the list, given his consistency at left back last season, I still see him as more of a midfielder though. Transfrmarket.com has his value at £9M. 1 year after Anderlecht paid £2m.

Szymanski's agent revealed he was close to signing for Hertha, they scraped past Hamburg in the relegation playoff. 6 months on, maybe his value has recently rocketed with the internationals, I'd be surprised if he went considerably over £10m being a relatively unknown from Russia.

Zirkzee has 1 year left at Bayern, they don't want him, 8 million euros was the quoted fee I read.
Love the quoting of transfermarkt values. Collins is valued at £9m on there, for example. Verschaeren and Szymanski at £12m too so using that as a basis for your valuations is a bit of an inconsistency.

But regardless of what fees they go for (I reckon most go for over £10m) they are not even remotely realistic options for Burnley in the Championship.

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Post by agreenwood » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:44 pm

Claretnick wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:25 pm
Would a work permit be an issue for this lad, don't think he has won a full international cap
He spent 6 years in Man City & Liverpool academies. A decent agent would have settled his status with the looming prospect of Brexit.

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:46 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:37 pm
Love the quoting of transfermarkt values. Collins is valued at £9m on there, for example. Verschaeren and Szymanski at £12m too so using that as a basis for your valuations is a bit of an inconsistency.

But regardless of what fees they go for (I reckon most go for over £10m) they are not even remotely realistic options for Burnley in the Championship.
Szymanski now after the recent internationals, probably not. I'm not convinced Anderlecht players are wildly out of our reach and unrealistic. I don't think Gomez will go for much over £10m. Yari is interesting, loved him since owning him on SoRare, his form fell off a cliff last year though. Zirkzee will certainly go under the £10m mark.

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Post by Claretnick » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:54 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:44 pm
He spent 6 years in Man City & Liverpool academies. A decent agent would have settled his status with the looming prospect of Brexit.
Okay I understand what you mean, thanks

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Post by AwayClaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:57 pm

Leeds, Wolves and Villa in for Collins apparently.

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:10 pm

What happens when we have sold all our good players-Collins, Pope, Cornet, VW,McNeil and we are still short of money.Reminds me of when my family are stuffing me at Monopoly and I have sold all my hotels, stations etc

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:11 pm

We need a not for sale unless we get over £50m that should stop this very bad idea in its tracks

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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:17 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:10 pm
What happens when we have sold all our good players-Collins, Pope, Cornet, VW,McNeil and we are still short of money.Reminds me of when my family are stuffing me at Monopoly and I have sold all my hotels, stations etc
Collins 30 million
Pope 25
Cornet 17.5
Vw 10
McNeil 15

90+ Million so even after the debt is paid off it hardly leaves us short of money

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:26 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:17 pm
Collins 30 million
Pope 25
Cornet 17.5
Vw 10
McNeil 15

90+ Million so even after the debt is paid off it hardly leaves us short of money
90 million doesn't cover the debt, Chester said we owe £48m to Garlick plus the £50m to MSD. Chester also said a large sum is due to be paid to Garlick in the coming weeks. Collins sale should cover the first instalment to Garlick and the rest.

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:30 pm

maybe the Collins sale doesn't cover the first Garlick instalment actually if Stoke have a sell on %, plus we probably still owe them £10m on the fee.

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Post by ClaretAL » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:36 pm

Wow, the odd few on here could start an argument in a paper bag! Can we please try to keep on topic, and if we need pi$$ing contest maybe create another thread to set a benchmark rather than in here.
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:37 pm

Any new rumours? 😂

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:38 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:37 pm
Any new rumours? 😂
Nothing today except the Wolves / Collins link

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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:38 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:26 pm
90 million doesn't cover the debt, Chester said we owe £48m to Garlick plus the £50m to MSD. Chester also said a large sum is due to be paid to Garlick in the coming weeks. Collins sale should cover the first instalment to Garlick and the rest.
We might owe that, who knows

We might owe that, but when.. Who knows.... Certainly nobody on here.

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Post by Fretters » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:39 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:31 pm
Does anyone have an image of this? I’m not on Twitter so imagine I can’t see ‘likes’.

Understand RV’s point on this. There was once a time where I’d have been hard pushed to decide who I’d prefer to sign from Norwich - Cantwell or Buendia. I’m a massive Buesndia fan too, but there was a certain dynamism that Cantwell had. For a low fee I’d 100% back VK to turn his career around.
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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:48 pm

Fretters wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:39 pm
Thanks Fretters!! Hope there’s something in this one.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:51 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:48 pm
Thanks Fretters!! Hope there’s something in this one.
Hope there’s something in a random player liking a tweet of our manager being appointed? I mean, I’m all for rumours but :lol:

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:53 pm

To be fair, its v random Todd Cantwell liking this

My guess, if its any help, is that Todd Cantwell has a hero (like we all did growing up) and its Kompany

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:08 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:51 pm
Hope there’s something in a random player liking a tweet of our manager being appointed? I mean, I’m all for rumours but :lol:
I’ve got myself more excited about far less ;)

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:09 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:53 pm
To be fair, its v random Todd Cantwell liking this

My guess, if its any help, is that Todd Cantwell has a hero (like we all did growing up) and its Kompany
Just need Lukaku n Hazard to like it now
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Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:13 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:30 pm
maybe the Collins sale doesn't cover the first Garlick instalment actually if Stoke have a sell on %, plus we probably still owe them £10m on the fee.
Cue.......another five pages of bickering about the debt!

BEYOND TEDIOUS!
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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:21 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:13 pm
Cue.......another five pages of bickering about the debt!

BEYOND TEDIOUS!
It’s actually worse than that, they are arguing based on assumptions by people of which a good few ah e already been wrong.

Anyway let’s get back on topic, again.
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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:22 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:13 pm
Cue.......another five pages of bickering about the debt!

BEYOND TEDIOUS!
I just responded, didn't start the debate, no intention of bickering about it either, just refreshing what Chester said.

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Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:29 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:45 pm
Seen him for the England under 21s recently and he looked very composed, was actually the skipper too. A Rovers supporting mate said he’s a very good player, they had him on loan the season before last. Definitely not a youth player and will likely be a regular starter if City are loaning him.
Thanks both for the info sounds like when Michael Keane first came on loan, doesn’t sound like they will sell only loan?

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Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:32 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:17 pm
Collins 30 million
Pope 25
Cornet 17.5
Vw 10
McNeil 15

90+ Million so even after the debt is paid off it hardly leaves us short of money
Looks fair, would keep Collins at all costs, if Ben White is £50m he can’t be too far behind.

Hope we can keep Cornet too.

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Post by eastcoastclaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:40 pm

Didn't see Cornet on the photos today. I didn't think he had been involved in internationals

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:43 pm

eastcoastclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:40 pm
Didn't see Cornet on the photos today. I didn't think he had been involved in internationals
Still on his hols. Been posting videos of himself singing in a car.

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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:44 pm

I think Cornet will stat

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:46 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:44 pm
I think Cornet will stat
I’d be very surprised. Firstly a PL club will fancy him and he’s got a low release clause considering, secondly there’s not a chance he is up to the Championship. It was hard to get him playing 90 mins in the PL let alone with 8 more games and away to Rotherham on a Tuesday night. I was a big MC fan last season but I’ll be happy to see him moved on (get our transfer debt to Lyon paid off and use any excess funds for recruitment).

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:49 pm

Are we sure this money we raise is going to paying off the debt, or is it going to servicing the debt?

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Post by clarethomer » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:52 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:44 pm
I think Cornet will stat
I have that feeling too for what it’s worth but I think it’s more hope than anything else…..

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Re: Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:54 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:49 pm
Are we sure this money we raise is going to paying off the debt, or is it going to servicing the debt?
Oh gosh, please, just leave it, nobody knows

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Re: Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:00 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:54 pm
Oh gosh, please, just leave it, nobody knows
Fine, as long as this board isn't full of people going "Dry powder LOLZ" in a couple of years time

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