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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:28 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:23 pm
Both the two promoted teams last season too :lol:
Let’s hope you are right. Because laughing at posters showing concern could land you with egg on your face.
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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:31 pm

Nothing new but a BBC journalist tweeted

“Maxwel Cornet is expecting to leave Burnley. Chelsea & Everton have had conversations, host of clubs round Europe too. Cornet has £17.5m exit clause in contract, Burnley ready and expecting his exit.”

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:32 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:31 pm
Nothing new but a BBC journalist tweeted

“Maxwel Cornet is expecting to leave Burnley. Chelsea & Everton have had conversations, host of clubs round Europe too. Cornet has £17.5m exit clause in contract, Burnley ready and expecting his exit.”
Noticed a lot of Newcastle fans talking about Cornet today.

Some reason Forrest fans have been talking about him as well

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:40 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:32 pm
Noticed a lot of Newcastle fans talking about Cornet today.

Some reason Forrest fans have been talking about him as well
Think he’d be a decent signing for Newcastle.

Suits Howe’s 4-3-3 system playing either on the left or right of the main striker.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:52 pm

Lots of noise, yet to see any money on the table yet. Does he get a start at Newcastle? I’m not convinced he does. Also surely NUFC fans are getting a bit bored signing players from us!

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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:01 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:28 pm
Let’s hope you are right. Because laughing at posters showing concern could land you with egg on your face.
Well if anyone knows about egg on face, you're by far and away the most qualified. :o
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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:01 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:36 pm
When was the last time a club changed its first eleven by at least five players from the previous season and went on to do well?

Can't think of any. Very worrying.

There may be exceptions, and even Crystal Palace did ok. But generally it tends not to end well at all.
We brought in Heaton, Jones, Arfield & Kightly in 2013. We also had to rely on Vokes & Ings, neither of whom had done much for us previously.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:01 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:52 pm
Lots of noise, yet to see any money on the table yet. Does he get a start at Newcastle? I’m not convinced he does. Also surely NUFC fans are getting a bit bored signing players from us!
Possibly on the right ahead of Fraser. Both him and ASM are injury prone too. Definitely a better option than Jacob Murphy in that position.
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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:02 pm

For the record, I'm happy if and when Cornet leaves and we get a biggish fee for him. I think that will be best for all concerned.

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:02 pm

Claretnick wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:47 pm
Why are you scared?
I doubt this 19yo keeper would be number 1 but hey what do we know. Presumably the manager has seen enough of him at Anderlecht to value him at this amount of fee.
I will be sitting back and letting matters unfold, there is nothing we can do to influence the way the club is going forward.
UTC
Steady on with the common sense mate. 👍

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Post by jedi_master » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:08 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:02 pm
For the record, I'm happy if and when Cornet leaves and we get a biggish fee for him. I think that will be best for all concerned.
Agreed - we know where we stand then and can hopefully put that towards O’Hare and a striker. I like Max and he’s definitely done well overall for us, but I’d be concerned over his readiness for 46 games in any case. It may be best for everyone.
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Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:10 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:02 pm
For the record, I'm happy if and when Cornet leaves and we get a biggish fee for him. I think that will be best for all concerned.
No probs if Cornet goes for decent money, as long as some of those funds are reinvested, notably on a striker who'll score goals at this level.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:15 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:01 pm
Well if anyone knows about egg on face, you're by far and away the most qualified. :o
Haha ok

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Post by jtv » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:36 pm

As there seem to be more than 1 club interested in Cornet is the club obliged to sell him for the release amount or can they start a bidding war?

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:37 pm

jtv wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:36 pm
As there seem to be more than 1 club interested in Cornet is the club obliged to sell him for the release amount or can they start a bidding war?
Obliged

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Post by Moorite » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:42 pm

jtv wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:36 pm
As there seem to be more than 1 club interested in Cornet is the club obliged to sell him for the release amount or can they start a bidding war?
We basically don't have any say in anything. It will come down to where Max wants to go out of those interested.

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Post by claretbob » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:44 pm

It’s lucky some on here don’t follow Stanley. I watched their first team beat Rovers yesterday and only Sean Mcconville started the first league game against Wycombe 12 months ago. The winning goal was brilliantly set up by Josh Woods an ex-barber who was playing for a Sunday league team in Skelmersdale last season. Pleased to report Rovers looked shocking although they have a number of good young players who will provide some good loans for league 1 teams.
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Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:54 pm

Worryingly no new links to a couple of strikers we desperately need

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Post by DCWat » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:55 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:08 pm
Agreed - we know where we stand then and can hopefully put that towards O’Hare and a striker. I like Max and he’s definitely done well overall for us, but I’d be concerned over his readiness for 46 games in any case. It may be best for everyone.
I just don’t see where he fits. He scored some great goals and undoubtedly has some talent, but I don’t see a great player in there. He’s a nice to have, a bit of an expensive luxury.

I reckon he will spend his career not quite being able to fit in to a system. Saying that, strangely, I’d still like him to stay.

Cashing in is the right approach though. I just hope that the funds are invested in some proven quality. I agree with the sentiment that we are, so far at least, putting too much emphasis on potentially good signings.

I’d have a lot more confidence in the season ahead if we got a couple who we can have some real confidence in them delivering the goods.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:00 pm

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/i ... 27290.html

Interesting that they are saying we are still after Knight

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:19 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:36 pm
When was the last time a club changed its first eleven by at least five players from the previous season and went on to do well?

Can't think of any. Very worrying.

There may be exceptions, and even Crystal Palace did ok. But generally it tends not to end well at all.

This is brilliant question in as much as it contains its own answer :D
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Post by dsr » Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:56 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:36 pm
When was the last time a club changed its first eleven by at least five players from the previous season and went on to do well?

Can't think of any. Very worrying.

There may be exceptions, and even Crystal Palace did ok. But generally it tends not to end well at all.
Burnley in 2015-16 had to replace Ings, Trippier and Shackell who had all left, and Marney and Barnes who were both injured.

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Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:02 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:07 pm
Bournemouth brought in 13 new players last season and got promoted.
To add some context to that statement 5 of the signings were made on Transfer Deadline Day January 2022 and all of those signings had experience at either PL or Championship level. They were not a whole raft of unproven players who might, or might not, go on to prove themselves at Championship level or above.

Freddie Woodman
Nat Phillips
Kieffer Moore
Siriki Dembele
Todd Cantwell

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:15 am

Ben Davies not touring with Liverpool amidst interest from Stoke and Blackburn
Wouldn't be the worse signing of the summer

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Post by Murger » Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:15 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:15 am
Ben Davies not touring with Liverpool amidst interest from Stoke and Blackburn
Wouldn't be the worse signing of the summer
I'd say we're fairly well covered in the centre-back position.

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:20 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:15 am
Ben Davies not touring with Liverpool amidst interest from Stoke and Blackburn
Wouldn't be the worse signing of the summer
True. He’s the type of signing that’d have given me more confidence (alongside the younger players).

Liverpool are notoriously difficult to deal with & would probably ask for a big fee or his £60k/week paying in full!! They have 4 years left paying him £3.1m, so it’ll be a complex deal.

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Post by Pearcey » Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:14 am

Is it Cullen day today then?

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:16 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:02 pm
To add some context to that statement 5 of the signings were made on Transfer Deadline Day January 2022 and all of those signings had experience at either PL or Championship level. They were not a whole raft of unproven players who might, or might not, go on to prove themselves at Championship level or above.

Freddie Woodman
Nat Phillips
Kieffer Moore
Siriki Dembele
Todd Cantwell
Something I expect us to do if our league position is good in January.

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Post by Hipper » Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:36 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:23 pm
Both the two promoted teams last season too :lol:
Possibly all three promoted clubs!

I looked at Forest's Play-off final line-up line-up and compared it their last game the previous season - seven different players.
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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:45 am

Pearcey wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:14 am
Is it Cullen day today then?
Tuesday ;)
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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:53 am

Cornet rumours certainly ramping up..

Links with Leeds, Fulham, Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal, and a host of clubs around Europe..

Would rather get it done sooner rather than later, but I expect his agent is advising to push it until late in the window to see who might pop up when they miss out on their primary targets.

Whether VK would've played him wide, midfield or as a striker, we're short in all those positions anyway.

Hopefully he'll be given all the money.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:57 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:53 am
Hopefully he'll be given all the money.
I believe we still owe Lyon a large portion of the original fee. I’d assume any sale they would match the staged cash flows being received from the 17.5m sale to the remaining ones we owe to Lyon. Then any extra could be used…

Aside from that, this week we need to:

- get Cullen across the line
- sort the Cornet situation
- sign a keeper (Muric)
- bring in an attacking player (preferably striker)

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Post by Pearcey » Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:59 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:57 am
I believe we still owe Lyon a large portion of the original fee. I’d assume any sale they would match the staged cash flows being received from the 17.5m sale to the remaining ones we owe to Lyon. Then any extra could be used…

Aside from that, this week we need to:

- get Cullen across the line
- sort the Cornet situation
- sign a keeper (Muric)
- bring in an attacking player (preferably striker)
That’s a lot of work for one week.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:01 am

Pearcey wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:59 am
That’s a lot of work for one week.
We go to Portugal on Sunday and play our last pre season friendly in England on Friday. In an ideal world we take the squad to Portugal that we want for team bonding purposes, as well, the new keeper needs as many games with the defence as possible. Reports suggest Cullen is very close and the deal with Muric was being worked on. Cornet / striker situation probably be the trickiest given the lack of genuine links.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:02 am

Is it too optimistic to say that I’m hoping that we are waiting for Delap to come back from city’s pre season tour and come to us on loan or permanent with a buy back clause 😂 , oh and throw in his mate McAtee on loan too whilst we are at it

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:12 am

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:02 am
Is it too optimistic to say that I’m hoping that we are waiting for Delap to come back from city’s pre season tour and come to us on loan or permanent with a buy back clause 😂 , oh and throw in his mate McAtee on loan too whilst we are at it
Thought I read Sheffield United was his likely destination

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:14 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:12 am
Thought I read Sheffield United was his likely destination
Not seen that anywhere - you got a link?

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:14 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:14 am
Not seen that anywhere - you got a link?
Il try find it. Swear I read it the other day

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:15 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:14 am
Not seen that anywhere - you got a link?
Ignore what I said. It was Tommy Doyle from City not Delap.
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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:17 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:15 am
Ignore what I said. It was Tommy Doyle from City not Delap.
I think Southampton are favourites for Delap..

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Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:18 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:57 am
I believe we still owe Lyon a large portion of the original fee. I’d assume any sale they would match the staged cash flows being received from the 17.5m sale to the remaining ones we owe to Lyon. Then any extra could be used…

Aside from that, this week we need to:

- get Cullen across the line
- sort the Cornet situation
- sign a keeper (Muric)
- bring in an attacking player (preferably striker)
Blimey! all that in a week, CT will be busy if they all come off.

Cullen sounds close to completion.
Cornet we can't do much about unless he attracts interest from a club he and his agent deem acceptable.
Definitely need a keeper ASAP, assume that'll be Muric.
Frighteningly quiet on any real striker links, which is a major concern as it's a priority position or at least should be.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:20 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:17 am
I think Southampton are favourites for Delap..
They are building a City second team there. I believe they are chasing a right back on loan from them too. If they do that then Delap would only be possible on a permanent for them, then it’s up to whether City are keen to sell.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:40 am

Lewis-potter moving to Brentford for 20m
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Post by TsarBomba » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:41 am

Brentford close to signing Lewis-Potter from Hull.

Hull, who are already splashing the cash with new owners, will have some funds to play with.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:40 am
Lewis-potter moving to Brentford for 20m
Will he make the step up? Really risky signing for them. Probably take a season or two to be ready at that level.

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Post by jedi_master » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 am

TsarBomba wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:41 am
Brentford close to signing Lewis-Potter from Hull.

Hull, who are already splashing the cash with new owners, will have some funds to play with.
I think Lewis-Potter is a class act.

On Hull though - poor looking squad to me, and now losing by far their best player. They may have money to spend but I don’t think they are building on a particularly solid base to begin with.

Could struggle!
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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:40 am
Lewis-potter moving to Brentford for 20m
Wow 20 million for a 1 in 4 striker last season with 12 goals, the world's gone nuts

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 am

Could be buying in anticipation of him being sold..

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:46 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:53 am
Cornet rumours certainly ramping up..

Links with Leeds, Fulham, Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal, and a host of clubs around Europe..

Would rather get it done sooner rather than later, but I expect his agent is advising to push it until late in the window to see who might pop up when they miss out on their primary targets.

Whether VK would've played him wide, midfield or as a striker, we're short in all those positions anyway.

Hopefully he'll be given all the money.
I find rumours about Cornet laughable, if a team wants him, they pay the release clause. Quite a simple piece of business to do.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:51 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:46 am
I find rumours about Cornet laughable, if a team wants him, they pay the release clause. Quite a simple piece of business to do.
It’s probably not a case of that. I would assume the clubs sound out the agent..

If the agent is saying he’s not moving until later on the window then the clubs won’t make a move on the release clause.

I think it will be later business once they’ve heard all the offers, he won’t want to be moving again in 12 months time.

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