Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:11 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:45 pm
I remember him at Barnsley on loan when he was a young lad, big unit reminds me on Abraham. Was a goal machine in Brugge with Cercle, was linked all around Europe at the time, with big clubs too. Ended up weirdly at Genk where he was always gonna struggle for gametime, they have Onuachu in the lone striker role. I don't watch French football so no idea how he played 2nd half of last year.

Managed to bag against AS Monaco, Paris Saint Germain and OSC Lille last season. Must be doing something right.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:54 am

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:47 am
Sure I read somewhere that Everton’s offer was turned down flat by Burnley. Sorry, can’t remember where or who it was… but I took it as right.

Everton wanted a loan for the season, we want a straight sale

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:12 am

Coventry fans really are going to hate us if we take Egan, Maatsen and O'Hare off them.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:42 am

Rumours this morning is that the current bid is up to £14m.

There will be late bids for Cornet towards the end of the window, so I think Burnley hold him until then

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:47 am

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:42 am
Rumours this morning is that the current bid is up to £14m.

There will be late bids for Cornet towards the end of the window, so I think Burnley hold him until then

These rumours are all from fake / fraud twitter accounts. Best we ignore them isn’t it.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:49 am

https://www.teamtalk.com/burnley/exclus ... id-planned

Graeme Bailey saying that O’Hare is close for a deal worth around 9m. That would be quite a statement. I take it the 9m would include add ons.

Also that we want Jack Hendry (27) for that extra experience in the middle of defence.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:38 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:08 am
That would be a u-turn, most of the insiders stated that we'd moved on from Muric well over a week ago. Man City have said they are only willing to sanction a permanent transfer for him and want 4m.

Can't see us bringing Verbruggen and Muric, in and spending over 8m on goalkeepers.

Me either, actually, just what I’ve heard. Not really a fan of starting with a 19 yo but find it very unlikely we’d pay for two GK’s.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:46 am

Re Muric :

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:38 am
Me either, actually, just what I’ve heard. Not really a fan of starting with a 19 yo but find it very unlikely we’d pay for two GK’s.

This, to me, seems where we’re suddenly street smart in the transfer business!

No more hanging our hat on one player and inevitably getting disappointed on deadline day.

Now, we seem to go “yep, interested, but not paying that, we’ll move on to player x, y or z” and then we seemingly (?) promote the news that we are in for player x,y or z and then the original club comes back with a better deal. VERY interesting stuff.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:03 am

I read somewhere that Verbruggen would struggle to get a work permit so we have gone on from him. Not sure who said it.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:04 am

Commy wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:03 am
I read somewhere that Verbruggen would struggle to get a work permit so we have gone on from him. Not sure who said it.

Nixon mentioned it in a tweet when asked about Muric and the fact reports had suggested Verbruggen was joining.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:11 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:46 am
Re Muric :

This, to me, seems where we’re suddenly street smart in the transfer business!

No more hanging our hat on one player and inevitably getting disappointed on deadline day.

Now, we seem to go “yep, interested, but not paying that, we’ll move on to player x, y or z” and then we seemingly (?) promote the news that we are in for player x,y or z and then the original club comes back with a better deal. VERY interesting stuff.

Hopefully mate. I’ve certainly noticed a change in approach this year and the results speak for themselves.

Maybe Pace has learned from the Orsic saga? Or possibly it’s just easier to recruit a) in the league below, where standards are lower - theres fewer PL-quality players than Champ standard players, or b) when you’re expected to be competing at the top end of the table.

Either way, I’m a fan of not being messed around & having multiple targets.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:21 am

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:11 am
Hopefully mate. I’ve certainly noticed a change in approach this year and the results speak for themselves.

Maybe Pace has learned from the Orsic saga? Or possibly it’s just easier to recruit a) in the league below, where standards are lower - theres fewer PL-quality players than Champ standard players, or b) when you’re expected to be competing at the top end of the table.

Either way, I’m a fan of not being messed around & having multiple targets.

I think your right Newclaret. It’s considerably harder signing players like Cornet and Collins because we are competing with clubs with more money.

We are now the club with more/most money in the league. It makes it easier to move targets.

Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:22 am

Commy wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:03 am
I read somewhere that Verbruggen would struggle to get a work permit so we have gone on from him. Not sure who said it.

Another ridiculous consequence of that thing we aren’t allowed to talk about, if true.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:29 am

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:22 am
Another ridiculous consequence of that thing we aren’t allowed to talk about, if true.

Move on.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:31 am

Just to add to the O’Hare rumour.

It seems a possible ‘ITK’ poster on Cov’s messageboard confirmed he is leaving.

This link should take you to it, the post is a few down and by ‘better days’.

https://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/ ... 14/page-32

It’s an interesting thread, they can’t believe he is potentially moving to a ‘tinpot club’.

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:32 am

Another ridiculous consequence of that thing we aren’t allowed to talk about, if true.

The same consequences that we have always had with other foreign countries outside a made-up cartel lol...

And the other consequence is that we have seen far more young English players given a chance in this country... But of course, those that love the cartel never point out the positive consequences

Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:35 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:31 am
Just to add to the O’Hare rumour.

It seems a possible ‘ITK’ poster on Cov’s messageboard confirmed he is leaving.

This link should take you to it, the post is a few down and by ‘better days’.

https://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/ ... 14/page-32

It’s an interesting thread, they can’t believe he is potentially moving to a ‘tinpot club’.

You’ve just said to ignore dodgy Twitter accounts so certainly wouldn’t think you’d be listening to an in the know message board member, we know all about those on here

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:38 am

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:35 am
You’ve just said to ignore dodgy Twitter accounts so certainly wouldn’t think you’d be listening to an in the know message board member, we know all about those on here

I take them more seriously than completely made up twitter accounts that claim to be ‘journos’. If you look at the replies to him it seems he has provided accurate information in the past.

Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:38 am

BigChaCha wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:32 am
The same consequences that we have always had with other foreign countries outside a made-up cartel lol...

And the other consequence is that we have seen far more young English players given a chance in this country... But of course, those that love the cartel never point out the positive consequences

I mean, just using Burnley as an example, we’ve literally seen no young English players been given a chance as a result.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:43 am

O'Hare Transfer fee bothers me if the 8 to 10 million figures are true, if this deal goes throught at that price it's going to be surley one of the top ten biggest deals between two championship clubs and probably one of the biggest over the past few season's, is he really that good ?. After two season's playing at championship level I find it a little strange no premier league club or championship club have come in for him and at the moment we seem to be the only one going for him.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:50 am

There isn’t a single credible source reporting there O’Hare is close to joining.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:55 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:43 am
O'Hare Transfer fee bothers me if the 8 to 10 million figures are true, if this deal goes throught at that price it's going to be surley one of the top ten biggest deals between two championship clubs and probably one of the biggest over the past few season's, is he really that good ?. After two season's playing at championship level I find it a little strange no premier league club or championship club have come in for him and at the moment we seem to be the only one going for him.

Fulham offered 5 million

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:55 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:43 am
O'Hare Transfer fee bothers me if the 8 to 10 million figures are true, if this deal goes throught at that price it's going to be surley one of the top ten biggest deals between two championship clubs and probably one of the biggest over the past few season's, is he really that good ?. After two season's playing at championship level I find it a little strange no premier league club or championship club have come in for him and at the moment we seem to be the only one going for him.

Created the 6th highest amount of chances in the league last season for a club that finished mid table. Most fouled player in the league. Is the number 1 attacker in the league for defensive duels won and pressures. 8 assists with not a single set piece included is pretty decent. Cov fans say all their main play comes through him and are gutted to be losing him. By all accounts one of the highest rated attackers in the league. If the 6m fee + 3 add ons rumour is correct then it sounds like a good deal.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:56 am

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:50 am
There isn’t a single credible source reporting there O’Hare is close to joining.

I just posted Graeme Bailey further up?

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:59 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:56 am
I just posted Graeme Bailey further up?

Teamtalk ?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:00 am

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:59 am
Teamtalk ?

Graeme Bailey writes for several transfer accounts including 90 mins and teamtalk. He is usually quite reliable. I’m not saying it’s 100% and let’s see how today plays out - but it’s definitely something.

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:03 am

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:50 am
There isn’t a single credible source reporting there O’Hare is close to joining.

There was a female Midlands journalist for the guardian reporting it last night, if you believe that the guardian is a credible source.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:04 am

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:59 am
Teamtalk ?

Graeme Bailey is pretty reliable to be fair

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:06 am

I mean, just using Burnley as an example, we’ve literally seen no young English players been given a chance as a result.

That's because we have been unique in football in having a manager who literally never changed the team along with virtually not buying any players to instead fatten the cat for the club sale but we are seeing it now!... At the moment, we have no choice but to buy players and we are now stacked with young English players!...

Leaving the cartel has played a massive part in why we are now mainly targeting young English players and also giving young English players a chance that has come through our system as we did in our recent pre-season friendly...

We have seen massive improvements in young English players being given chances in this country since we left... In fact, If I was to be churlish like your typical cartel hanger-on, I would be saying the only reason we got to the Euros final 2 years ago is that we had left

It is no coincidence that we had great success with England before we joined the cartel, then did dreadful while in it and have improved massively since leaving it!

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:06 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:43 am
O'Hare Transfer fee bothers me if the 8 to 10 million figures are true, if this deal goes throught at that price it's going to be surley one of the top ten biggest deals between two championship clubs and probably one of the biggest over the past few season's, is he really that good ?. After two season's playing at championship level I find it a little strange no premier league club or championship club have come in for him and at the moment we seem to be the only one going for him.

We complain when we don't sign players, then we complain when we do.

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:11 am

After two season's playing at championship level I find it a little strange no premier league club or championship club have come in for him

Transfer activity is incredibly low overall... Premier League teams are being far more pragmatic in this window so although it is a risk like most of our signings, we are taking advantage of the current climate while we can while we have parachute payments.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:14 am

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:06 am
We complain when we don't sign players, then we complain when we do.

A complain ?

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:14 am

We complain when we don't sign players, then we complain when we do.

We also moan that there's no loyalty and then moan when players like Kevin Long show loyalty!

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:15 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:55 am
Created the 6th highest amount of chances in the league last season for a club that finished mid table. Most fouled player in the league. Is the number 1 attacker in the league for defensive duels won and pressures. 8 assists with not a single set piece included is pretty decent. Cov fans say all their main play comes through him and are gutted to be losing him. By all accounts one of the highest rated attackers in the league. If the 6m fee + 3 add ons rumour is correct then it sounds like a good deal.

All that yet very little interest

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:19 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:15 am
All that yet very little interest

There are reports Fulham have been keen and in fact bid 5m. Norwich were also reported to be interested earlier in the summer. Teams have probably been priced out due to Cov’s asking price.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:22 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:15 am
All that yet very little interest

Imagine if he had added goals to those stats last year he would’ve attracted Prem interest and not be coming here. Hoping that is how we can add to his value - in a better team should have more/better quality chances, etc

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:24 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:15 am
All that yet very little interest

Fair comment, pretty much everything I have read says that if he can add goals and do better with his final ball suggests he will be a top player.

I think the hope is he develops playing with better players.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:35 am

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:03 am
There was a female Midlands journalist for the guardian reporting it last night, if you believe that the guardian is a credible source.

That’s another fake journo account.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:36 am

Reports over here suggest our ben d for Verbrugghe has increased to 5 M €

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:37 am

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:35 am
That’s another fake journo account.

But female profile pics are so much more believable?!?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:37 am

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ECTED.html

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:39 am

Andy Jones believes Liam Delap is not an active target. Surprising.

Big Vinny K · Post by **Big Vinny K** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:42 am

BigChaCha wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:06 am
That's because we have been unique in football in having a manager who literally never changed the team along with virtually not buying any players to instead fatten the cat for the club sale but we are seeing it now!... At the moment, we have no choice but to buy players and we are now stacked with young English players!...

Leaving the cartel has played a massive part in why we are now mainly targeting young English players and also giving young English players a chance that has come through our system as we did in our recent pre-season friendly...

We have seen massive improvements in young English players being given chances in this country since we left... In fact, If I was to be churlish like your typical cartel hanger-on, I would be saying the only reason we got to the Euros final 2 years ago is that we had left

It is no coincidence that we had great success with England before we joined the cartel, then did dreadful while in it and have improved massively since leaving it!

Rarely read so much utter rubbish.
Your memory of history seems somewhat clouded by your political views - so much so that you can’t even remember when the Euro final took place !

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:45 am

Burnley express reporting we are readying a bid for Hendry.

Must admit I find this a strange one

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:45 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:39 am
Andy Jones believes Liam Delap is not an active target. Surprising.

Interesting, very very few links to a striker so far

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:47 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:45 am
Burnley express reporting we are readying a bid for Hendry.

Must admit I find this a strange one

Thought a cb with experience is what everyone wanted?

He got man of the match against PSG in the Champs League last season.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:53 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:45 am
Interesting, very very few links to a striker so far

I wonder if we may have received encouragement from Vydra

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:54 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:47 am
Thought a cb with experience is what everyone wanted?

He got man of the match against PSG in the Champs League last season.

It’s not the experience that I find strange. It’s that finances are tight but we need 6 CBS on the books when only 2 are going to be playing?

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:55 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:45 am
Interesting, very very few links to a striker so far

Maybe he’s off to Southampton or not as available as suggested?

I sensed we could only secure a loan and I’d prefer a perm signing if possible.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:57 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:54 am
It’s not the experience that I find strange. It’s that finances are tight but we need 6 CBS on the books when only 2 are going to be playing?

Yes I don’t disagree there. I’d make an assumption that Long could be off and maybe Thomas on loan?