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Post by joey13 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:22 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:17 pm
He has a point, there was the fella from Arsenal too who we missed out on, the guy who went to Sunderland.
Didn’t he want more money after already agreeing .

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:25 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:15 pm
I’d still be very surprised if Cornet stays, shocked in fact
Ed Aaron’s said a few hours ago that Everton and Forrest are the main teams going after him

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:27 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:25 pm
Ed Aaron’s said a few hours ago that Everton and Forrest are the main teams going after him
Well Forest are on a proper spree at the moment so wouldn’t surprise me if they splashed the 17.5

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:28 pm

Nixon seems the think the O'Hare deal isn't dead at the moment

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Post by Top Claret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:29 pm

I prefer to keep Cornet if the deals dead. Cornet appears to be settled and should hit the ground running
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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:29 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:19 pm
they've brought in like 7 players for less than £10m, no way were they gonna reinvest £8-10m on O'Hare regardless of how many millions we bring in.
I thought there were plenty of reports that we'd offered 9 and they turned it down ? Wouldn't suggest we are cheapskates

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:29 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:28 pm
Nixon seems the think the O'Hare deal isn't dead at the moment
He said it’s ‘definitely not on at the moment’

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Post by jedi_master » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:30 pm

Two of McNeil, Cornet and O’Hare will be playing for us at Huddersfield.

That’s my prediction. I don’t buy the ‘deal is dead’ angle for a second without the addition of a very key word - ‘currently’. Clearly we do not have the leeway to press ahead with more expensive signings right now (Verbuggen and O’Hare) and are reliant on a sale to make progress with them - that’s how I see it.

To be honest, I don’t know enough of O’Hare to be excited or not by him but I’d choose Cornet ahead of him if we knew we were going to get 35-46 games out of him. He’d get a lot of goals.
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Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:31 pm

When we have VK back in the UK next week things will take off and I feel incoming players will be signed

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Post by DCWat » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:33 pm

Christ - a potentially missed target and it’s all gone to ****. Sign someone tomorrow and it’ll be well done Alan, Burnley are going up.

How about a bit of middle ground at least until the window is closed when we can really assess what has happened and whether we’ve had a good window or not.
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Post by Swizzlestick » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:36 pm

Forest have just signed Lingard on no doubt big money so Cornet probably won’t be ending up there. Still wonder where he’ll end up tbh.

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Post by Steddyman » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:37 pm

So here we are less than 2 weeks from the first game of the season and only just over a month left in the transfer window and so far we have only managed to bring in 7 new squad players!

Truly pathetic.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:42 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:36 pm
Forest have just signed Lingard on no doubt big money so Cornet probably won’t be ending up there. Still wonder where he’ll end up tbh.
Different positions swizzlestick

I still think they will be one of the teams interested

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:44 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:29 pm
He said it’s ‘definitely not on at the moment’
not sure how I misread it but I clearly did. I'm going for a lie down

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Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:44 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:30 pm
Two of McNeil, Cornet and O’Hare will be playing for us at Huddersfield.

That’s my prediction. I don’t buy the ‘deal is dead’ angle for a second without the addition of a very key word - ‘currently’. Clearly we do not have the leeway to press ahead with more expensive signings right now (Verbuggen and O’Hare) and are reliant on a sale to make progress with them - that’s how I see it.

To be honest, I don’t know enough of O’Hare to be excited or not by him but I’d choose Cornet ahead of him if we knew we were going to get 35-46 games out of him. He’d get a lot of goals.
Absolutely agree with your best scenario there about Cornet and money needed for more signings.
Not sure about your 2 from 3 , reckon it might be 1 from 3 myself

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:45 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:42 pm
Different positions swizzlestick

I still think they will be one of the teams interested
problem Forest now have is any new signings will see JL on 200K a week and the 40K per week they might have asked for has suddenly become 90K

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Post by Swizzlestick » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:48 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:42 pm
Different positions swizzlestick

I still think they will be one of the teams interested
More budget wise from their point of view. Also does Max want another relegation battle in a team seeing precious little of the ball every game? Not convinced tbh.

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:55 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:30 pm


Clearly we do not have the leeway to press ahead with more expensive signings right now (Verbuggen and O’Hare) and are reliant on a sale to make progress with them - that’s how I see it.

We just sold Pope and Collins for over £30m. £13m January profit from Wood. We both know which black hole that money's going into don't we

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:00 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:55 pm
We just sold Pope and Collins for over £30m. £13m January profit from Wood. We both know which black hole that money's going into don't we
Still owed circa 9m on Collins + few mil sell on % to Stoke. Same for Cornet if he gets sold.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:01 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:48 pm
More budget wise from their point of view. Also does Max want another relegation battle in a team seeing precious little of the ball every game? Not convinced tbh.
Potentially not,

But I would also suggest Forrest probably arnt looking to sign him on a permanent deal.

Lingard has only been offered a year contract on them wages. They might offer us hefty loan fee for Cornet so he comes back to us next season

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:02 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:00 pm
Still owed circa 9m on Collins + few mil sell on % to Stoke. Same for Cornet if he gets sold.
True but from a net spend window point of view them costs were placed on the summer window last season.

As per the accounts them costs have already been taken into account.

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:05 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:02 pm
True but from a net spend window point of view them costs were placed on the summer window last season.

As per the accounts them costs have already been taken into account.
Not really - from a cash flow perspective they need to be paid when they have been agreed to be paid

With Collins we are receiving the 20m over 4 years from Wolves

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Post by dandeclaret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:07 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:39 pm
Are you seriously doubting Vincent Kompany's, and his chosen goalkeeping coach's, ability to judge a goalkeeper's ability?
I'm not saying that either of our current GKs are guaranteed good enough BTW.
If you apply this logic to the end, nobody ever signs or plays a bad goalkeeper.....

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:12 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:05 pm
Not really - from a cash flow perspective they need to be paid when they have been agreed to be paid

With Collins we are receiving the 20m over 4 years from Wolves
Yes but financially that has been accounted for. That’s what the net spend per window is for.

Similarly the sums we received for Gibson, Dunne, Benson and Wood have already covered last seasons signings. So anything this season is as how KRBFC describes it.

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Post by Kevwando » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:15 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:03 pm
Perhaps we have opted to keep cornet? Instead
Perhaps we couldn’t agree a deal.
We will now move onto the next target on the list and continue to look at selling Cornet.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:16 pm

Kevwando wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:15 pm
Perhaps we couldn’t agree a deal.
We will now move onto the next target on the list and continue to look at selling Cornet.
Probably right

I just hope we keep cornet he would score 30 in the champ.

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Post by Bfc » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:22 pm

Re the transfer fees income. Charlton FC, have said the Pope money they receive from Burnley as part of their percentage, is a big boost to their transfer kitty. That appears to me like a 7 figure payment. If as suggested the fee was £10m, we’ve not made much money for an International player. It sickens me, when I read of practically unknown other clubs squad players being transferred for a lot more, than our players worth.

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Post by jedi_master » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:26 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:55 pm
We just sold Pope and Collins for over £30m. £13m January profit from Wood. We both know which black hole that money's going into don't we
Well I’ve tried very hard not to mention the hole in question all summer, as per the thread title as my commentary on this topic was not being well received!

I’ll reply simply with…quite!

The flip side to that is that I’ve thus far liked the look of our business in terms of incomings, even if they’ve not cost us much it seems we’ve been prudent and quite canny. We do now need to see a striker and goalkeeper coming in though, that’s not in question. We cannot judge a thing as it stands so let’s see how we look teamsheet wise at Huddersfield.

So far we’re about a B- in my eyes, but that can easily go up to an A with two more first 11 additions in those key positions. Obviously, also key to that is keeping McNeil, Roberts, Taylor and Brownhill (Cornet would be lovely but I’m a realist), that is a must in my opinion.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:29 pm

Man City have offered 30 million for Cucurella and Brighton want 50 million, cheapskate bastards

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:31 pm

How’s about we all calm down, enjoy the multiple signings we have made with absolute no doubt whatsoever more to follow and judge the window when it closes.

Just a thought like.
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Post by bobinho » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:35 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:39 pm
Are you seriously doubting Vincent Kompany's, and his chosen goalkeeping coach's, ability to judge a goalkeeper's ability?
I'm not saying that either of our current GKs are guaranteed good enough BTW.
I certainly don’t think they are…. BPF has occasional glimpses of quality, but occasional won’t get us promoted.
Norris is the equivalent of us having used all our subs, only for our keeper to go off injured, and ending up with the left back playing in the goals.
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Post by TickTock » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:37 pm

So for the sake of saving this thread, you know what is covered by loans transfer fees are being spent on incomings that's a fact. A keeper will be through the door within the week I can guarantee this. Coventry wanted us to pay upwards of 10 million for O'Hare Cornet cost us 12.5 he has CL experience and thus I guarantee every single individual on this board would have cried to almighty hell and once again blamed it all on Pace had we paid their asking price as request so maybe you should all calm down. We will get at least on striker likely two by deadline day and for anyone who doesn't believe that I would recommend you look at Alan Nixon's post in which he blatantly states "They know who they want". Just because its not in public domain doesn't mean we aren't active. We are also looking / expected to bring in a highly rated experienced international defender as well. Right many people need to stop being so fickle and take a calm step back and more rational view on what's actually happening.

Rant Over.
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Post by Longsider » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:38 pm

Am I alone in thinking that if we don't land OHare then so be it. I would rather we don't get our pants pulled down, sign someone over the odds at say £10m. The bloke is less than prolific I front of goal to be getting rinsed for 10m
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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:38 pm

Someone needs to tell KRBFC we’ve been relegated.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:39 pm

TickTock wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:37 pm
So for the sake of saving this thread, you know what is covered by loans transfer fees are being spent on incomings that's a fact. A keeper will be through the door within the week I can guarantee this. Coventry wanted us to pay upwards of 10 million for O'Hare Cornet cost us 12.5 he has CL experience and thus I guarantee every single individual on this board would have cried to almighty hell and once again blamed it all on Pace had we paid their asking price as request so maybe you should all calm down. We will get at least on striker likely two by deadline day and for anyone who doesn't believe that I would recommend you look at Alan Nixon's post in which he blatantly states "They know who they want". Just because its not in public domain doesn't mean we aren't active. We are also looking / expected to bring in a highly rated experienced international defender as well. Right many people need to stop being so fickle and take a calm step back and more rational view on what's actually happening.

Rant Over.
To be fair from what I have read on here I don’t think anyone is being fickle. Just discussing the transfers the date.

Hopefully your right. Plenty needed before the end of the window

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:40 pm

Longsider wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:38 pm
Am I alone in thinking that if we don't land OHare then so be it. I would rather we don't get our pants pulled down, sign someone over the odds at say £10m. The bloke is less than prolific I front of goal to be getting rinsed for 10m
No I fully agree with you.

6m seemed a fair value to me. He looks a talented lad but until he ups those numbers his value can’t be much higher.

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Post by Commy » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:41 pm

Wasn't it reported that Cornet wasn't interested in Forest?

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Post by ebby » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:47 pm

Someone I know at Coventry has just said he personally would not let the player go for anything less that 12million.

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Post by KlyBfc » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:54 pm

Glad we have taken a backwards step (if that’s the case) with OHare. I’ve no idea how good he is having not watched any Coventry games in recent years, but with stats he possesses he doesn’t seem to warrant such an outlay. The plan is to improve players and move them on (which I’m fine with). Signing OHare for 10m is a big gamble with that policy. How much better can we make him? Is it enough to put 5/10m on him? Can we even keep him at a 10m player? I don’t know the answers and so (similar to the club) I’m not sure it’s worth the risk.

We move on, however remember as things stand in 2 weeks time we’ve got a decent starting 11. Gk, experienced CB and CF are priorities for me.

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Post by BigChaCha » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:56 pm

The bloke is less than prolific I front of goal to be getting rinsed for 10m
Grealish is hardly prolific in front of goal either and I would have hated to have missed out on him for anywhere near 10m!

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:57 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:06 pm
Orsic and O’Hare in back to back windows. We’re getting good at bottling this signing our main target thing.
You're putting 2 and 2 together and coming up 6.
You've no evidence we bottled anything. Maybe we think he isn't worth what Coventry want. Maybe we have better, more cost effective targets. Personally I'm not fussed, I tend to take every source with a pinch of salt, until the club announce the player. There's far too many false rumours, wind up merchants, look at me characters to get carried away by twitter feeds or opposition fans. To blame the club for not living up to your expectations, based on chinese whispers on the internet, is unfair to the club, and definitely bad for your health.
Put it to bed and move on.
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Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:58 pm

bobinho wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:35 pm
I certainly don’t think they are…. BPF has occasional glimpses of quality, but occasional won’t get us promoted.
Norris is the equivalent of us having used all our subs, only for our keeper to go off injured, and ending up with the left back playing in the goals.
Dead right. Goalkeepers, above anyone else, cannot afford to show ' occasional glimpses of quality'. Most important position on the field because none of the other players can do it.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:59 pm

I’m getting more mystified about the sale of Hennessy. I’d have been more than happy with him between the sticks and for him he would have been playing in the build up to a World Cup appearance that will be remembered in Wales forever. Now he will be bench warming with Henderson starting at Florist.
I can only guess that the club wanted him off the books as he didn’t have a relegation clause?

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:59 pm

ebby wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:47 pm
Someone I know at Coventry has just said he personally would not let the player go for anything less that 12million.
I personally, wouldn't have let Nick Pope go for anything less than 25 million.

See, it's meaningless.
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Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:03 pm

Commy wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:41 pm
Wasn't it reported that Cornet wasn't interested in Forest?
He wasn't being offered 200,000 a week.
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Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:07 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:59 pm
I’m getting more mystified about the sale of Hennessy. I’d have been more than happy with him between the sticks and for him he would have been playing in the build up to a World Cup appearance that will be remembered in Wales forever. Now he will be bench warming with Henderson starting at Florist.
I can only guess that the club wanted him off the books as he didn’t have a relegation clause?
Could be, but you think it would have been dependent on getting someone in first, regardless of what he was on.
I like BPF, there's a good keeper in there, and yes he does have a mistake in him, so do most just look at Pitchfork, so maybe VK and his coach have decided that they can work with him, and save the readies for another target.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by agreenwood » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:08 pm

burnmark wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:11 pm
Latest from Nixon:

Burnley are making a shock bid for Metz’s Mali international Boubacar Kouyate.

Vincent Kompany needs a new defender after the loss of three senior squad men and he hopes to tie down a deal with the French club.

Kouyate, 25, has been a strong player for Metz and stood out for his country in the last African Cup of Nations.

Burnley will try to broker a deal at around £2.5 million for Kouyate who has been looking to play in England for some time.
Nixon likes a story about this lad. Bit of a contrast between his valuation 5 months ago and the reported bid today…

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by agreenwood » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:11 pm


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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by ebby » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:11 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:59 pm
I personally, wouldn't have let Nick Pope go for anything less than 25 million.

See, it's meaningless.
He’s connected.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:18 pm

ebby wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:11 pm
He’s connected.
Unless he's the man who writes the cheques it's still meaningless.

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