Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[tiger76]

Surely signals that Lowton is leaving. Kompany has been clear he wants two in each position, and I just don’t see us selling Roberts (I hope not anyway). Lowton feels out of the picture and at 33 possibly doesn’t fit what the club is going for.

I like Lowts, but as you say he's getting on now, and will be on biggish wages, so if we can get the lad from Blackpool, and keep Roberts that would be ideal.

[NewClaret]

Or the Verbruggen stuff was a smokescreen to push City into accepting a lower deal for him?

I finally feel like we’re getting really smart in the market.

Not suggesting that we didn’t want Verbruggen at all, maybe even still a target but appearing you have multiple options is helpful in terms of getting the club to agree a fee & player to agree terms.

I was told a week ago by someone who’s got two things right this summer so far (forget the first, second was Maatsen medical booked about an hour before Ornstein said the same) that Muric has been at Barnfield - could prove to be the third!

Personally delighted. He’s a big lad at 6’6” so will fill the goal well and presumably be decent on crosses. Seems to be a penalty specialist and decent with his feet. From last seasons highlights, appears good at coming off his line with Pope-esque reflexes. Only thing I’ve noticed is that he doesn’t get the ball around the post as much as I’d like, an area to work on as decent strikers will punish that.

[NewClaret]

The old complaint used to be that we'd waste our time chasing a single target and not having an alternative.
We've been chasing both Muric and the other lads at the same time, we've now landed one of them by the looks of it and still people aren't happy.

I am.

May still be in for Verbruggen if BPF isn’t happy playing second fiddle to Muric.

[groove]

Where did this come from?

Indirectly from the player himself. I'm Blackpool based and have a friend that knows him. Said clubs are negotiating a price.

[Cap]

Interesting that the Muric link is only coming from 1 source.
Nothing from the usuals such as Nixon, Boden, Alex James or Andy Jones.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Might not be bad but is he a promotion winning keeper? The fact he didn’t stand out on loan in League One suggests not.

He didn't stand out ????? He equalled a club record 17 clean sheets in a season for Sheffield Wednesday, he saved multiple pens including 3 in a row for Sheffield Wednesday and Northern Ireland he also was awarded man of the match a good few times last season

[warksclaret]

I like Lowts, but as you say he's getting on now, and will be on biggish wages, so if we can get the lad from Blackpool, and keep Roberts that would be ideal.

Lowton was fortunate enough to join Burnley FC where he has had 6 marvellous seasons. We must remember he was at Villa for 3 seasons and apparently in his last season not seen as a first teamer, barely putting in a dozen games in his last year. SD helped resurrect his career, and he has gone on to play over 200 games for us. SD I suspect fought his corner and was instrumental in getting him contract extensions. But for us he would not have gone on to have such an extended career in the PL. The new regime is a totally different animal, and at 33 I suspect there is an understanding he will not be in the first team squad. I would expect him to go out on loan or a free transfer if he is keen to still play first team football

[eastcoastclaret]

I finally feel like we’re getting really smart in the market.

Not suggesting that we didn’t want Verbruggen at all, maybe even still a target but appearing you have multiple options is helpful in terms of getting the club to agree a fee & player to agree terms.

I was told a week ago by someone who’s got two things right this summer so far (forget the first, second was Maatsen medical booked about an hour before Ornstein said the same) that Muric has been at Barnfield - could prove to be the third!

Personally delighted. He’s a big lad at 6’6” so will fill the goal well and presumably be decent on crosses. Seems to be a penalty specialist and decent with his feet. From last seasons highlights, appears good at coming off his line with Pope-esque reflexes. Only thing I’ve noticed is that he doesn’t get the ball around the post as much as I’d like, an area to work on as decent strikers will punish that.

He does seem to punch rather than hold onto the ball, and some were back into the danger area. That being said, he looks decent with his feet and definitely has a look of Pope about him with some of his reflex saves. Big shoes to fill but think he will be fine.

[RVclaret]

He didn't stand out ????? He equalled a club record 17 clean sheets in a season for Sheffield Wednesday, he saved multiple pens including 3 in a row for Sheffield Wednesday and Northern Ireland he also was awarded man of the match a good few times last season

Standing out would be making the L1 team of the year, for example. Or getting rave reviews from Sheff Weds fans, or getting their player of the year. Seems reviews are very mixed and didn’t win any of those awards.

[warksclaret]

He didn't stand out ????? He equalled a club record 17 clean sheets in a season for Sheffield Wednesday, he saved multiple pens including 3 in a row for Sheffield Wednesday and Northern Ireland he also was awarded man of the match a good few times last season

If he is that good then surely Sheff Wed will go for him. My neighbour watches Sheff Wed home and away, and says he started as the best keeper in Div 1, but made some real howlers later on. Not want you want when pushing for promotion

[dandeclaret]

I like Lowts, but as you say he's getting on now, and will be on biggish wages, so if we can get the lad from Blackpool, and keep Roberts that would be ideal.

Another downgrade is far from ideal.

[Lancasterclaret]

I think people are massively overthinking this "smartness in the market" stuff

We have money, loads of clubs don't, and we have a manager with a very high profile and the top, top, top contacts

It makes a huge difference

[randomclaret2]

Another downgrade is far from ideal.

Its a fair point, but one of the consequences of relegation is the need to reduce the wage bill. Had we introduced younger players gradually over the last 3 or 4 years we wouldnt be faced with the wholesale changes we have no choice but to implement now.

[dandeclaret]

Its a fair point, but one of the consequences of relegation is the need to reduce the wage bill. Had we introduced younger players gradually over the last 3 or 4 years we wouldnt be faced with the wholesale changes we have no choice but to implement now.

There remains a choice... the club will make a decision on which choice to follow.

[agreenwood]

I reckon Lowton has another good season in him, particularly at this level.

He’s unlikely to reach the standards of his early years with us, but not sure he’s fallen off the cliff just yet.

[randomclaret2]

There remains a choice... the club will make a decision on which choice to follow.

Certainly, but looking at the ages and wages of the 10 players who have left this summer, compared with the 7 who have joined , it looks like significantly cutting the wage bill is one of the club's main targets.

[Kevwando]

I can see us selling Roberts if the right bid comes in.

[ksrclaret]

Its a fair point, but one of the consequences of relegation is the need to reduce the wage bill. Had we introduced younger players gradually over the last 3 or 4 years we wouldnt be faced with the wholesale changes we have no choice but to implement now.

This is spot on. The word neglect was thrown around a lot with regards to our transfer dealings under the last manager and owner, but the way we let the average age of the squad increase and increase was probably worthy of it.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Certainly, but looking at the ages and wages of the 10 players who have left this summer, compared with the 7 who have joined , it looks like significantly cutting the wage bill is one of the club's main targets.

Cutting wage bill, which is done by selling players and/or automatic relegation clauses which we're known for having.

Reducing average age of squad, we all know it was too high.

Different players who the manager feels will be better suited to the style he wishes to play.

Letting players leave if they so wish and if a suitable offer comes in.

It's just business as normal by the looks of it, apart from being in a shorter period of time, but at least it's getting done and we aren't seeing players being sold with no real plan about how to replace them.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Lowton was fortunate enough to join Burnley FC where he has had 6 marvellous seasons. We must remember he was at Villa for 3 seasons and apparently in his last season not seen as a first teamer, barely putting in a dozen games in his last year. SD helped resurrect his career, and he has gone on to play over 200 games for us. SD I suspect fought his corner and was instrumental in getting him contract extensions. But for us he would not have gone on to have such an extended career in the PL. The new regime is a totally different animal, and at 33 I suspect there is an understanding he will not be in the first team squad. I would expect him to go out on loan or a free transfer if he is keen to still play first team football

He was behind Alan Hutton, became first choice when Hutton broke his leg and reverted to 2nd choice when Hutton returned from injury.

He was part of the reason we got promoted and had an extended stay in the PL, but according to your narrative he was lucky we signed him

[RVclaret]

Muric was in the WhoScored Turkish SuperLig TOTY last season.

[I Don't Eat Worms]

Can't see this on here anywhere, but Max Thompson has signed for Sunderland

https://safc.com/news/academy-news/2022 ... r-the-lads

[ervi34]

Interesting that the Muric link is only coming from 1 source.
Nothing from the usuals such as Nixon, Boden, Alex James or Andy Jones.

As if Boden or James would have known anything. I like their writing style but both of them are the last ones to know when something's happening.

[KRBFC]

BPF is not a bad keeper at all

Did Dyche replace him with Norris? pretty sure he did my memory aint good though

[gandhisflipflop]

BPF is not a bad keeper at all

He isn’t bad you’re right, he’s bloody awful

[JR1882]

Mail online reporting Muric is pretty much done.

[NewClaret]

I think people are massively overthinking this "smartness in the market" stuff

We have money, loads of clubs don't, and we have a manager with a very high profile and the top, top, top contacts

It makes a huge difference

Don’t disagree that having money/well connected manager helps - and would add that being in the Championship widens the pool of players we could realistically sign - but having money doesn’t necessarily make it easier to conclude deals, just as contacts don’t mean they’ll sell you them cheaply.

Just all round it feels to me like we’re operating much more smartly that we have in the past. How much of that is strategy vs luck I don’t know.

[ksrclaret]

As if Boden or James would have known anything. I like their writing style but both of them are the last ones to know when something's happening.

When Coventry's local paper said yesterday O'Hare deal was dead, it prompted Boden to write an article purely off the back of that one. It's just embarrassing for him.

[RVclaret]

Mail online reporting Muric is pretty much done.

Muric Instagram shows him getting a train to London from Manchester last night. Wonder if he’s catching a flight to Portugal today so he can play tomorrow…

[Rileybobs]

When Coventry's local paper said yesterday O'Hare deal was dead, it prompted Boden to write an article purely off the back of that one. It's just embarrassing for him.

Why’s it embarrassing? Not all journalists get the exclusive scoop for every story. Most news stories are regurgitated.

[ArmchairDetective]

Muric Instagram shows him getting a train to London from Manchester last night. Wonder if he’s catching a flight to Portugal today so he can play tomorrow…

Sorry if I'm missing something. But wouldn't he just fly from London to Portugal? Wonder if he's having a medical up here first...

[claretonthecoast1882]

Why’s it embarrassing? Not all journalists get the exclusive scoop for every story. Most news stories are regurgitated.

Wasn't it Boden who reported that the deal for Verbruggen had collapsed ?

It seems a weird thing that so many people moan about Boden but all probably follow him on twitter. He may have little desire to be seen as a Nixon and report on every whisper he sees when he is happy with the working relationship he has with the club.

[Boxy]

Express reporting Muric had his medical on thursday

[ksrclaret]

Why’s it embarrassing? Not all journalists get the exclusive scoop for every story. Most news stories are regurgitated.

I can't remember the last time he had an "exclusive scoop" on anything. Plenty of his stories are as a result of a fan on Twitter asking him about a player because someone like Nixon has linked them, and him replying saying he'll ask some questions. That's become embarrassing, in my opinion.

[ksrclaret]

Wasn't it Boden who reported that the deal for Verbruggen had collapsed ?

It seems a weird thing that so many people moan about Boden but all probably follow him on twitter. He may have little desire to be seen as a Nixon and report on every whisper he sees when he is happy with the working relationship he has with the club.

No

[Jambounchained]

Max Thompson has joined Sunderland.

Odd one.

[RVclaret]

No

Pretty sure it was to be fair

[claretonthecoast1882]

Pretty sure it was to be fair

He was even mocked for that, comments like funny how it is only Boden going with this line and not Nixon or anyone in the know

[ksrclaret]

Pretty sure it was to be fair

I'd read on here from a poster who'd linked a story from Belgium before Boden had put that up

[Rileybobs]

I can't remember the last time he had an "exclusive scoop" on anything. Plenty of his stories are as a result of a fan on Twitter asking him about a player because someone like Nixon has linked them, and him replying saying he'll ask some questions. That's become embarrassing, in my opinion.

He’s a writes for the Burnley Express, he’s not exactly an investigative journalist for the Washington Post.

[randomclaret2]

Can't see this on here anywhere, but Max Thompson has signed for Sunderland

https://safc.com/news/academy-news/2022 ... r-the-lads

Back up to Category One football

[Nori1958]

Interesting that the Muric link is only coming from 1 source.
Nothing from the usuals such as Nixon, Boden, Alex James or Andy Jones.

That one source is the best connected for city news there is, it will be correct

[claretonthecoast1882]

That one source is the best connected for city news there is, it will be correct

Correct, he doesn't bother with idle gossip if he has gone with it you can be fairly certain it is true

[ksrclaret]

He’s a writes for the Burnley Express, he’s not exactly an investigative journalist for the Washington Post.

We can agree on that one

[Rileybobs]

We can agree on that one

Just seems a bit odd to attack a normal guy (presumably a fellow Burnley fan?) for doing his job to the best of his abilities. At the end of the day he writes for a local newspaper and presumably has links at the club which mean it’s not in his publication’s interest to make idle speculation. If BFC keep their lips sealed on imminent transfers (and who would blame them) then what is Boden supposed to do?

[joey13]

Muric Instagram shows him getting a train to London from Manchester last night. Wonder if he’s catching a flight to Portugal today so he can play tomorrow…

No flights from Manchester?

[RVclaret]

No flights from Manchester?

Good question, likely would be, not sure on timings etc

[Burnley1989]

Wasn't it Boden who reported that the deal for Verbruggen had collapsed ?

It seems a weird thing that so many people moan about Boden but all probably follow him on twitter. He may have little desire to be seen as a Nixon and report on every whisper he sees when he is happy with the working relationship he has with the club.

Very weird… if he doesn’t report he gets grief…. If he reports after another has, he gets grief…

[joey13]

Good question, likely would be, not sure on timings etc

Or private jet maybe , hasn’t Dave Fishwick got a helicopter, I’m sure he mentioned it one time

[ksrclaret]

Just seems a bit odd to attack a normal guy (presumably a fellow Burnley fan?) for doing his job to the best of his abilities. At the end of the day he writes for a local newspaper and presumably has links at the club which mean it’s not in his publication’s interest to make idle speculation. If BFC keep their lips sealed on imminent transfers (and who would blame them) then what is Boden supposed to do?

How do you know this? Is there no way he could be a little more proactive in finding things out, rather than digging after fans on Twitter have asked him something?

Anyway, we'll be accused of bickering soon so I'm not going to take this any further. Rumours and that.