Positives from last night…

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Positives from last night…

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:10 pm

:D Couldn’t resist a thread…

Few alternatives to the obvious ones already discussed:

- Team spirit was still there. I didn’t know how that would fare given all the changes but VK seems to be true to his word and building on that.

- Work rate was outstanding. Football aside, these lads grafted and we’ll need that to continue.

- Reception has been unreal. I was having a look online after and not just in the UK but abroad the compliments were flowing. A lot more people will tune in to our games this year.

- Style-wise, hopefully it convinces the players we want to join.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:25 pm

Sorry, two more to add:

- Subs well used, I thought. I don’t like too many changes. Looking forward to better use of the squad this year but not to the excess. Thought the subs he made were at the right time & didn’t disrupt the game.

- Clean sheet. Hardly any chances conceded. Something for the defence to build on.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:33 pm

Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but looking to take quick free kicks (although they didn't quite come off) was refreshing.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by JarrowClaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:34 pm

Love the thread 😀 ignoring the performance I loved Kompany’s interview afterwards. Not bothered about style of play but will try and keep the ball so we can effect the game all about hard work. Gonna be some ride from now until the end of the season it won’t all go well but I think we are back to being the hardest working side.

A few people have mentioned Udders were bad but 100% the majority of that was down how we pressed and harassed them.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:34 pm

All the "old" players fitted perfectly into the new system - giving us experience along the spine of the team

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:36 pm

The fans in the away end matched the amazing performance on the pitch. Best away day since Watford last season 🤣

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:43 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:34 pm
Love the thread 😀 ignoring the performance I loved Kompany’s interview afterwards. Not bothered about style of play but will try and keep the ball so we can effect the game all about hard work. Gonna be some ride from now until the end of the season it won’t all go well but I think we are back to being the hardest working side.

A few people have mentioned Udders were bad but 100% the majority of that was down how we pressed and harassed them.
Another point to add on this, I saw some quick long balls up as well. Mainly by the senior players actually. Old habits die hard & all that.

But I want a mix. I like the passing it around but like to mix it up with some long balls forward to get attacks going.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Conroy92 » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:44 pm

Considering the work ethic and press were always seen as 2 of the main cornerstones in the Dyche system, I thought we looked fitter than last season and "hunted in packs" very effectively last night. (Albeit against poorer opposition than last season).
If we can maintain that level of work rate and that style of football were in for a very good season.

Mobility and fluidity the two biggest positives from last night.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Goodclaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:46 pm

Absolutely loved it last night. I was Dyches biggest fan but that was as refreshing performance as I could have wished for.

Cullen and Maatsen look absolutely amazing but the overall quality was fantastic. Over 500 passes. In one game. I think we waited 20 games for that stat last season ;) :)

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:48 pm

The main positive for me was that we looked far better than was ever expecting. Incredible considering the short amount of time the team have had to gel.
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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Goodclaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:48 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:43 pm
Another point to add on this, I saw some quick long balls up as well. Mainly by the senior players actually. Old habits die hard & all that.

But I want a mix. I like the passing it around but like to mix it up with some long balls forward to get attacks going.
Definitely. There is still room for a quick forward ball. Barnes ran the channels well for that quick outlet. Get a pacier striker in and we will get a few more "direct" goals too. I'm still blown away by how good that first half was.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Zlatan » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:54 pm

Charlie Taylor at LCB. Never any concerns and always look comfortable. Almost as if he’s made for the role there

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Sproggy » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:54 pm

One positive for me is thinking about how we could be playing in a couple of months time when this system has properly bedded in.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by bfcjg » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:56 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:54 pm
Charlie Taylor at LCB. Never any concerns and always look comfortable. Almost as if he’s made for the role there
Reminiscent of when Ben Mee moved to centre half, that worked quite well also😀

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by NottsClaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:01 pm

I was fearing the worst a bit beforehand. To be that cohesive with very little preparation and some players literally arriving just before the match was quite an achievement.

Of course, Huddersfield may prove to be absolutely bobbins and it’s not much of a barometer but still a very enjoyable watch.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Pearcey » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:05 pm

Watched it this morning and thought they were fantastic. It was a weight off my mind to be honest as I had no idea what we were going to look like. A good start to build on.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Claretitus » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:06 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:56 pm
Reminiscent of when Ben Mee moved to centre half, that worked quite well also😀
My thoughts exactly bfcjg. Didn’t work out badly did it?

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by ClaretLoup » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:18 pm

First team Debut for one of our academy players
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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by MACCA » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:32 pm

Positives... It's still shorts and T-Shirt weather, even for a night game.

1 nice thing to hear as I left the ground was 2 Huddersfield talking and they said
"Sometimes you've just got to hold your hands up, they were better than us all over the pitch, they were excellent"

Not heard that from opposition fans, makes a change from the usual sour grapes, it made me smile thats for sure.
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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:50 pm

MACCA wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:32 pm
Positives... It's still shorts and T-Shirt weather, even for a night game.

1 nice thing to hear as I left the ground was 2 Huddersfield talking and they said
"Sometimes you've just got to hold your hands up, they were better than us all over the pitch, they were excellent"

Not heard that from opposition fans, makes a change from the usual sour grapes, it made me smile thats for sure.
Saw loads of similar comments online. Great to hear, isn’t it?

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:54 pm

Goodclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:48 pm
Definitely. There is still room for a quick forward ball. Barnes ran the channels well for that quick outlet. Get a pacier striker in and we will get a few more "direct" goals too. I'm still blown away by how good that first half was.
I will be absolutely over the moon if we play that kind of football mixed in with some more direct play at the right times. I’m loving the new style but also enjoy moving possession to attack very quickly.

Also thought Muric balanced it well with playing it out from the back and going long.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:54 pm

Hudds fans are well sound.

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Post by FCBurnley » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:25 pm

Amazing how since we got VK the media and even other teams love us

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:29 pm

The biggest positive by far is that there were no negatives
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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:35 pm

Clean sheet.
Debut for Costelloe.
Surprisingly cohesive given the number of debutants.
Maatsen opening his account, he looks like he'll provide plenty of threat down the left this season.
Cullen looks a class act.
Good use of subs when Hudds where threatening to creep back into the game.
Twine will be a threat from set-pieces, something we've lacked for a long time.
An away win on the board already.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Papabendi » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:36 pm

I'd fallen out of love watching Burnley based on the past couple of seasons. It was in the main a tough watch and that is no direct criticism of Dyche more a reflection of the situation we were in. The fact it was Prem football was no consolation to me.

Based on last night and if we can keep up that standard, the bug will very much be back.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:40 pm

I thought the whole first half was a positive.
I was amazed at how quickly things seemed to come together. Some tremendous football.

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Post by Zooniverser » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:49 pm

I was impressed with many all the debutants but I was delighted to see Josh Brownhill have such an impact on the game. Full of energy and product and looked to be enjoying his football so much. If he carries on like this he will be a big factor in our season.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by bpgburn » Sat Jul 30, 2022 3:05 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:36 pm
I'd fallen out of love watching Burnley based on the past couple of seasons. It was in the main a tough watch and that is no direct criticism of Dyche more a reflection of the situation we were in. The fact it was Prem football was no consolation to me.

Based on last night and if we can keep up that standard, the bug will very much be back.
Pretty much sums up my thoughts too.

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Post by ynot » Sat Jul 30, 2022 3:10 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:56 pm
Reminiscent of when Ben Mee moved to centre half, that worked quite well also😀
Ben Mee came on to replace David Edgar for his Burnley debut. He was always a CB, he was played out of position at LB
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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by leelad » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:28 pm

Cohesiveness, fluidity across the park and hard work (on and off the ball). I can see why VK decided to play one pre season game in front of spectators. This performance came from the collective efforts of everyone on the training pitch. A word for Maatsen and Cullen, they stood out for me. A very good first impression, a marker has been set for the rest of the season.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Top Claret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:34 pm

That performance was a breath of fresh air, even though I doubt we will witness a performance as poor as Huddersfield 1st half and we have to be honest because they were abysmal

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by MrTopTier » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:37 pm

Loving all the positivity on this thread, long may it continue. I got a kebab and can of coke for a fiver.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by taio » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:37 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:34 pm
That performance was a breath of fresh air, even though I doubt we will witness a performance as poor as Huddersfield 1st half and we have to be honest because they were abysmal
One could put forward that it might have been that we were excellent in the first half or a combination of factors, rather than it just being a case of Huddersfield being abysmal.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Top Claret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:47 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:37 pm
One could put forward that it might have been that we were excellent in the first half or a combination of factors, rather than it just being a case of Huddersfield being abysmal.
Been there and got the t shirt to prove it. A perfect example is our 1st game of the season in 1982 at Ayresome Park when we beat Boro 4-1. We went on to get relegated that season and I was once again there at Palace on that awful night in South London.

We all need to calm down and take things into prospective and realise that this is only our 1st game of the season

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Post by Zom Zom » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:49 pm

Blimey, you must be an absolute barrel of laughs when those long winter nights roll in…

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Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:49 pm

*perspective

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Post by Zom Zom » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:51 pm

It’s a bit like saying the season opened with a win at “sunny Donny” and drawing comparisons from 1991/92

Lighten up, spoilsport.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by taio » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:51 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:47 pm
Been there and got the t shirt to prove it. A perfect example is our 1st game of the season in 1982 at Ayresome Park when we beat Boro 4-1. We went on to get relegated that season and I was once again there at Palace on that awful night in South London.

We all need to calm down and take things into prospective and realise that this is only our 1st game of the season
I'm not sure what 1982, or the rest of what you say above, has got to do with the point I was making which was clearly specific to last night's game and not how the season may or may not play out.
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Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:14 pm

The quality of lyrical adaptation to popular music tunes performed acapella to a live audience for the first time to herald players of the club that have arrived just a few weeks ago and in one case just days ago was a sound to behold. I reckon some of those responsible have been having private sessions with Paul McCartney during the summer.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by ClaretLoup » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:27 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:47 pm


We all need to calm down and take things into prospective and realise that this is only our 1st game of the season
.

The thread title is “POSITIVES from LAST NIGHT”

The Private Frazer forecasting thread hasn’t been opened yet, but why don’t you go ahead?

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Post by Culmclaret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:58 pm

82/3 completely different. We made no additions to the squad (or indeed deletions). Some good young players certainly but key weaknesses among the older players which were cruelly exposed. We started well because of the promotion momentum but had a terrible run after the first three games.
And the first game against Bolton (Phil Ray’s one and only!) was actually pretty awful if truth were told.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Grandpa Claret » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:35 pm

The style of play
The new signings all look superb and have settled in amazingly
Costello looks an absolutely class act.
The realisation that VK is going to amazing for Burnley as is belamy
Loving football again.

The premier league is a vicious circle for me. Will be wanting to win this league to go up but then hating it once there. Who knows though under VK, it might be different up there next time. For the last 7 or so years though its been awful on the whole.

Couldn't stop smiling last night. Absolutely superb

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by ClaretinJapan » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:11 am

Top Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:47 pm
Been there and got the t shirt to prove it. A perfect example is our 1st game of the season in 1982 at Ayresome Park when we beat Boro 4-1. We went on to get relegated that season and I was once again there at Palace on that awful night in South London.
Were you at the Bolton home game before Middlesbrough? We drew 0-0. It was turgid.

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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by spt_claret » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:40 am

Individual positives:
-Bastien in the first half looked quality, N'golo Kante meets Mason Mount. Faded second half but really impressed me in the first.
-Cullen looks like the perfect unfashionable centre midfielder. I almost wasn't noticing him at times, then I'd check the stats and he was everywhere. Can see why Kompany wanted him, he ticks us over like Jones used to do but with Marney's graft and bite. He'll be a good one.
-Maatsen is electric and I just wish we had him on a permanent deal. He was more a winger than a fullback, really impressed.
-Costelloe didn't have the best night in front of goal, he should have scored 2 and was clumsy with a couple layoffs in the final third- but this is all pressure scenario stuff. For a 19 year old making his debut, he was not shy of the ball at all, happy to get involved, moved well, and had moments of promise. I expect him to go to the bench when Jay or Twine are fit (Or ideally, Cornet comes back in as that role is made for him) but with further involvements he'll hopefully grow in confidence and composure and the end product will come.
-Taylor did far better than I expected as LCB. Still don't think it's his natural role and he will struggle against teams that can get into our area more, especially physical sides, but he did well.
-Barnes didn't look likely to score but looked brighter than he has in over 2 years. His dummy for the goal really surprised me, maybe he still has more in the tank than I thought.

Team positives:
-The pressing and energy we had under Dyche from 2015-18 was well and truly back. Back then we looked like a wolf pack, unbelievably organised and hard-pressing. That was in display again, and it's been long missed.
-Kompany was proactive in his subs and on a more personal level made the exact subs I wanted to see at the exact time I wanted, it regained momentum as I hoped, Dyche was hesitant with subs but at least the first few years, when he made them it again would be the exact change I'd want to see and this persisted a little (I was screaming for 433 with Vydra vs Chelsea last year, it worked). Can't help but take a bit of satisfaction when the change you want to see happens and pays off, and good to see that Kompany is starting off positively in his substitute approach even if that bench was thin on attacking options.
-We look far more on speed with this system than I ever expected. I went into the game genuinely fearing a 3-0 loss between our lineup, inexperience of the players, unfamiliarity with each other and the system, and instead we should have had a 3-0 win. Teams won't be caught offguard as much going forwards but if we can get even more comfortable with the system, I hope that doesn't matter.
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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Firthy » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:57 am

The biggest thing for me was the way the defence and midfield held the ball and passed it off when under pressure. Last season it would have been hoofed forward and possession given away.
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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:06 am

The batch of coke we got in for the game was top quality
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Post by MACCA » Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:19 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
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The batch of coke we got in for the game was top quality
I liked the way you tied your Stoney shoulder to waist too, very practical, and I still got to see the warning sign you were hard as fcuk from a distance.
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Re: Positives from last night…

Post by tiger76 » Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:24 pm

Now the opening round of fixtures has concluded, Burnley were the only side to take all 3 points on the road.

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