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Vydra

Post by Murger » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:48 pm

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Re: Vydra

Post by Top Claret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:51 pm

That's that then, he probably got greedy like they all do

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Re: Vydra

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:51 pm

Best of luck to him.

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Re: Vydra

Post by NewClaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:52 pm

That’s a shame

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Re: Vydra

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:52 pm

I thought he would fit in well based on how we played on Friday night, but sounds like not too much interest in him staying from either side.

A signing that didn't work out at all, but good luck to the lad.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:53 pm

The lads gonna run out of battery. Needs plug in or at least turn the brightness down.

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Re: Vydra

Post by DycheAlmighty » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:53 pm

Huge shame because he had more to give but we cannot afford to pay prem wages.

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Re: Vydra

Post by clarethomer » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:53 pm

VK alluded that Vydra was now on a different path in his pre match press conference

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Re: Vydra

Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:55 pm

Shame but who knows how long he’d take to get fully fit this season. Tough one for the club given his age too. Seems like we made an offer but it wasn’t acceptable for him. A fully fit Vyds would have done well in this new set up.
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Re: Vydra

Post by bfcjg » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:57 pm

We never got the best out of him, when we did he was good.
Wish him well.
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Re: Vydra

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:58 pm

Yes, best of luck to him.
Don't think the previous manager fancied him, scored a few good goals, in particular the one at Southampton.

A lot of times though , he flattered to deceive for me.
So it's mixed feelings for me, because as said above, there may have been more to come from him.

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Re: Vydra

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:01 pm

Does that mean our obligation to continue paying him has now ended? In effect, that frees up a wage.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Lowbankclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:05 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:01 pm
Does that mean our obligation to continue paying him has now ended? In effect, that frees up a wage.
Looks like it to me.

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Re: Vydra

Post by JimmyRobbo » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:06 pm

Very best wishes to him. Nobody could argue that he didn't give his all. A shame he never quite got a run that he might have deserved. I don't think he fits this new system. I don't think his footwork is in keeping with what VK appears to be after.

A shame. I liked him. All good things come to an end.
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Re: Vydra

Post by hetheclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:07 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:51 pm
That's that then, he probably got greedy like they all do
Why shouldn't he maximise his earnings while he still can? The rest of the working population does.
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Re: Vydra

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:07 pm

Surely we stopped paying him when he was OOC?
Although i don't know when that was.

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Re: Vydra

Post by summitclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:08 pm

A player that we grossly under used. His movement was on a different level and I think he would have flourished with the likes of Cullen and the new tactics.
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Re: Vydra

Post by SkiptonClaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:09 pm

“Negotiations were minimal”. Justifiably. Yes, I know he scored goals in the Championship, seven years ago or whatever. No guarantee. Never even looked remotely like a regular PL goalscorer. Unfortunately another signing we got little value from. Flattered to deceive ? Absolutely.
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Re: Vydra

Post by agreenwood » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:09 pm

Bit part player for the duration of his stay with us. Even with the advances in repairing knees, there’s no guarantee he’d make a full recovery. Throw in that’s he’s the wrong side of 30 and probably wouldn’t have been fully fit until after Christmas, I can’t say I’m overly disappointed.

All the best to him of course. Hope he does make a full recovery and has a successful finish last 4-5 years of his career.
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Re: Vydra

Post by hetheclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:10 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:09 pm
“Negotiations were minimal”. Justifiably. Yes, I know he scored goals in the Championship, seven years ago or whatever. No guarantee. Never even looked remotely like a regular PL goalscorer. Unfortunately another signing we got little value from. Flattered to deceive ? Absolutely.
Strongly disagree - in the brief moments he was given to shine, he scored goals. If he'd played the same minutes Wood did, I'd bet my house Vydra would score (and definitely assist + create) more.
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Re: Vydra

Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:10 pm

He was one of those players who got better and more praise the less he played.

Thought he was distinctly average for us overall
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Re: Vydra

Post by IanMcL » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:10 pm

I agree with his statement. He did give it his all. Can't ask for more.

I say thank you and best wishes for the future.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:13 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:10 pm
He was one of those players who got better and more praise the less he played.

Thought he was distinctly average for us overall
Agreed. There was always a footballer in there that never really got a fair shot. But unfortunately I’ll only ever really remember him for the ones he missed. Good luck to him.
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Re: Vydra

Post by hetheclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:16 pm

He could have ended his career against Watford - Michael Jackson said he injured his knee in the first 10-15 minutes. He played the whole game and got the match winning assist. Deserves praise just for that.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Clowbridge89 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:20 pm

I think part of the fascination with him was that he was so different to our other options. He did miss some massive chances, but he never really got a decent run in the side unfortunately

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Re: Vydra

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:24 pm

Good player who sadly was underused. He has not been feeling it for a while, nothing to do with the new guard at the club, both ownership and management, this decision was made long ago. Only way he would have stayed was a fantastic offer, sadly not having played much under the previous management he was unable to prove he was worth fighting for to keep.

Good luck Vyds

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Re: Vydra

Post by tiger76 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:24 pm

Hope Vyds finds a club, but given the direction we're now going in with young hungry players, he was never likely to fit into Kompany's model.

And if we made him an offer, which he choose not to accept, then fine he moves on with my best wishes, but his scoring record didn't justify pushing out the boat to retain him.

Plus as others have mentioned how do we know he'll be the same player post injury.

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Re: Vydra

Post by beddie » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:25 pm

I’m a Vydra fan but to be honest I’m surprised the club made him an offer before knowing whether he’d make a full recovery and get back up to full speed.

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Re: Vydra

Post by bobinho » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:30 pm

Massively underused. His treatment under the previous regime was poor imho. Far better player than he was given credit for. If he was given the same leeway that Wood was given when he wasn't scoring (or contributing owt else) we may well be seeing different comments on here.
There was a period when alongside Wood we looked a real handful up top, Vydra's mobility and movement causing all sorts of problems, but at the first opportunity, he was dropped so we could go with type. An attitude that ultimately cost us our place at the top table.

Good luck to him, hope his recovery goes well.
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Re: Vydra

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:35 pm

hetheclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:10 pm
Strongly disagree - in the brief moments he was given to shine, he scored goals. If he'd played the same minutes Wood did, I'd bet my house Vydra would score (and definitely assist + create) more.
He really wouldn't.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Elbarad » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:36 pm

Best of luck to him for sure. He always looked to be be giving it 100% effort.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:39 pm

Probably best all round to be honest

Genuinely think if he'd stayed fit for those last few games we wouldn't have gone down, but overall his four years have been a bit meh, and its best to part ways

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Re: Vydra

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Re: Vydra

Post by Pearcey » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:41 pm

Best of luck to him. He never really had a chance to get going. I’d have liked to see him in the new set up.

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Re: Vydra

Post by DCWat » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:46 pm

Surely, surely after a striker now.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:46 pm

Some good cameo games but overall Vyds had had his day.A massive gamble on his part not signing a new deal but good luck to him in the future
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Re: Vydra

Post by aclaretinstevenage » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:47 pm

Didn't copy exactly but his career in numbers goals in brackets. Spent a lot of time on loan hasn't he?

Senior career*
Years Team Apps (Gls)
2008–2010 Vysočina Jihlava 27 (5)
2010 Baník Ostrava 14 (4)
2010–2015 Udinese 2 (0)
2011–2012 → Club Brugge (loan) 1 (0)
2012–2013 → Watford (loan) 41 (20)
2013–2014 → West Bromwich Albion (loan) 23 (3)
2014–2015 → Watford (loan) 42 (16)
2015–2016 Watford 1 (0)
2015–2016 → Reading (loan) 31 (3)
2016–2018 Derby County 73 (26)
2018– Burnley 82 (8)

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Re: Vydra

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:48 pm

Best of luck to him,I think in this new look Burnley side a fit Vydra would have scored plenty and fit in nicely...sadly now we will never know.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:49 pm

His football was great, but his finishing was very poor, surprising considering his pre Burnley form.
I agree SDs style didn't suit him, but he missed some sitters.

I hope he lands on his feet, and wish him good luck.

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Re: Vydra

Post by ALP » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:58 pm

I wish him all the very best, he was a good lad and wasn't in the team enough previously, but that's the game.

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Re: Vydra

Post by CaptJohn » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:01 pm

I really thought he could get his mojo back under VK and the new style would suit him. So sad to see him go but good luck to him and his family.
I'll always remember that wonderful goal at St Marys :)
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Re: Vydra

Post by ArthurShelby » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:08 pm

Give us a lot of energy and something different, His movement was very good but his finishing was very very poor.

Not a loss.

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Re: Vydra

Post by fatboy47 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:14 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:46 pm
A massive gamble on his part not signing a new deal

If he didn't sign a new deal you can be absolutely cast iron assured that there will be a better one on the table for him elsewhere.

No gamble involved.

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Re: Vydra

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:21 pm

97 appearances in all competitions with 12 goals.
Most of his appearances were as a sub...

Underused but that's how it goes at times.

Good luck to him, wherever he ends up.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Jambounchained » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:22 pm

95% Burnley fans on Twitter going on like the was the second coming.

Wish him well but glad we’ve got him off the books.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Goalposts » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:28 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:51 pm
That's that then, he probably got greedy like they all do
We offered him a new contract much reduced wages , he has other offers and his let on the house runs out mid august , as no other offer from club came he is going home to czech

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Re: Vydra

Post by Prefeot » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:41 pm

hetheclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:10 pm
Strongly disagree - in the brief moments he was given to shine, he scored goals. If he'd played the same minutes Wood did, I'd bet my house Vydra would score (and definitely assist + create) more.
I couldn’t agree with you less
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Re: Vydra

Post by Pickles » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:42 pm

Sometimes I thought he was shite, sometimes I thought he should've played more.

Can't put it more simply than that.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Alanstevensonsgloves » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:44 pm

This is the player we bought in August 2018 (from Wikipedia)...

"In April 2018, he was named in the PFA Championship Team of the Year[38] and also in the EFL Championship Team Of The Year.[39] He scored 22 goals in all competitions and received the Sky Bet Championship Golden Boot after scoring 21 goals in the Championship during the 2017–18 season.[36] On 1 May, Vydra won 3 awards at the club's end of season awards ceremony winning the Player Of The Year, Players Player Of The Year and the Jack Stamps Player Of The year awards."

And yet some of you still believe he couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo. Unbelievable.

I don't think Vydra was at fault for his underwhelming Burnley career, and I certainly hope he has changed agent since that move to us.

Matej, I wish you all the best.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:49 pm

Alanstevensonsgloves wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:44 pm
This is the player we bought in August 2018 (from Wikipedia)...

"In April 2018, he was named in the PFA Championship Team of the Year[38] and also in the EFL Championship Team Of The Year.[39] He scored 22 goals in all competitions and received the Sky Bet Championship Golden Boot after scoring 21 goals in the Championship during the 2017–18 season.[36] On 1 May, Vydra won 3 awards at the club's end of season awards ceremony winning the Player Of The Year, Players Player Of The Year and the Jack Stamps Player Of The year awards."

And yet some of you still believe he couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo. Unbelievable.

I don't think Vydra was at fault for his underwhelming Burnley career, and I certainly hope he has changed agent since that move to us.

Matej, I wish you all the best.
Sadly he couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo. If you think different you must watch all your football on Wikipedia.
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