Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[BigChaCha]

KRBFC wrote:
More loans to replace outgoings, where’s the money going? what happened to the buy, develop then sell?

Everything on the cheap. Happily flog half of our team for 80 million quid but won’t reinvest £5m on a Cornet replacement? Pure cheap. They don’t even believe in their own strategy, and won’t fund it properly.

Hogwash!

Highest Spending Clubs In The Championship So Far -

1 Burnley FC - £14.90m
2 Norwich City - £12.96m
3 Hull City - £10.35m
4 Middlesbrough FC - £5.94m
5 Watford FC - £5.22m
6 Sheffield United - £4.05m
7 Sunderland AFC - £3.38m
8 Millwall FC - £2.25m
9 Swansea City - £2.07m
10 Luton Town - £1.90m
11 West Bromwich Albion - £900Th
12 Huddersfield Town - £846Th
13 Cardiff City - £50Th
14 Blackburn Rovers - 0
15 Birmingham City - 0
16 Preston North End - 0
17 Stoke City - 0
18 Bristol City - 0
19 Coventry City - 0
20 Reading FC - 0
21 Queens Park Rangers - 0
22 Wigan Athletic - 0
23 Blackpool FC - 0
24 Rotherham United - 0

[KRBFC]

KRBFC

You've no idea on the size of the loan fee etc, it could be pricey. If he does the business and gets us promoted who gives a f*ck if he's not our player. He is for this season. There could also be clauses referring permanent transfer etc.

and if he doesn't get us promoted? I'm all for loans of players out of our budget who significantly improve us, Maatsen for example. We've just brought £40m through the door, but we're being told deals (cheap signings too) are off the table because of finances?

£40m in through the door, a loan replacement and Benson.

Talk about lack of investment, fookin hell

[WestMidsClaret]

Don't feed the obvious trolls.

[KRBFC]

Hogwash!

Highest Spending Clubs In The Championship So Far -

1 Burnley FC - £14.90m
2 Norwich City - £12.96m
3 Hull City - £10.35m
4 Middlesbrough FC - £5.94m
5 Watford FC - £5.22m
6 Sheffield United - £4.05m
7 Sunderland AFC - £3.38m
8 Millwall FC - £2.25m
9 Swansea City - £2.07m
10 Luton Town - £1.90m
11 West Bromwich Albion - £900Th
12 Huddersfield Town - £846Th
13 Cardiff City - £50Th
14 Blackburn Rovers - 0
15 Birmingham City - 0
16 Preston North End - 0
17 Stoke City - 0
18 Bristol City - 0
19 Coventry City - 0
20 Reading FC - 0
21 Queens Park Rangers - 0
22 Wigan Athletic - 0
23 Blackpool FC - 0
24 Rotherham United - 0

How many other clubs have £40m parachute payments? plus £70m in player sales?

Kompany said today, half that number. Lets not take him quite literally, shave off 30% instead of 50%. Spent around £11m. Absolute peanuts, whopping net profit of £59m.

[RVclaret]

and if he doesn't get us promoted? I'm all for loans of players out of our budget who significantly improve us, Maatsen for example. We've just brought £40m through the door, but we're being told deals (cheap signings too) are off the table because of finances?

£40m in through the door, a loan replacement and Benson.

Talk about lack of investment, fookin hell

Sounds like they’ve been trying to sign Cabral for around 4m? Before that offered over 6m for O’Hare. Probably would have signed him if it wasn’t for this injury. Our window and business isn’t finishing at Tella.

I do find it funny that a theme common on here under Dyche was the lack of use of the loan market, and now it’s been used for 3 / 11 signings, it’s used as a criticism of the owners and strategy.

Also, weren’t you keen on us signing Delap on loan?

[KRBFC]

Don't feed the obvious trolls.

troll?

I'm not trolling, I'm deadly serious in calling out the lack of reinvestment of the £70m in player sales. Not sure why you think I'm joking, I'm certainly not.

[Vegas Claret]

so between pages 139 and 140 KRBFC has said we've brought in 40, 60, 70 and 80 million

It's no wonder people (incorrectly imho) are calling you a troll when you can't even agree with yourself. Sort it out mate, you are better than this nonsense

[KRBFC]

Sounds like they’ve been trying to sign Cabral for around 4m? Before that offered over 6m for O’Hare. Probably would have signed him if it wasn’t for this injury. Our window and business isn’t finishing at Tella.

I do find it funny that a theme common on here under Dyche was the lack of use of the loan market, and now it’s been used for 3 / 11 signings, it’s used as a criticism of the owners and strategy.

Also, weren’t you keen on us signing Delap on loan?

Did you even read my post at all?

I said: '' I'm all for loans of players out of our budget who significantly improve us, Maatsen for example.''

We would have signed O'Hare for £8m? you've had the wool pulled over your eyes, so I'm not surprised you believe that. Cabral has decent pedigree, would have been a good addition, why is not here? We wouldn't re-invest the cash and Tella is the cheap alternative.

[KRBFC]

so between pages 139 and 140 KRBFC has said we've brought in 40, 60, 70 and 80 million

It's no wonder people (incorrectly imho) are calling you a troll when you can't even agree with yourself. Sort it out mate, you are better than this nonsense

Show me where I said 40 million, I also said well over 60 million.

[Hedontplayforyou]

I see Cabral as a 10.

Tella as a winger

[RVclaret]

Did you even read my post at all?

I said: '' I'm all for loans of players out of our budget who significantly improve us, Maatsen for example.''

We would have signed O'Hare for £8m? you've had the wool pulled over your eyes, so I'm not surprised you believe that. Cabral has decent pedigree, would have been a good addition, why is not here? We wouldn't re-invest the cash and Tella is the cheap alternative.

Well seen as though Kompany said he wants 4/5 more (before Tella) there’s plenty of chance for further investment isn’t there?

[MACCA]

Hogwash!

Highest Spending Clubs In The Championship So Far -

1 Burnley FC - £14.90m
2 Norwich City - £12.96m
3 Hull City - £10.35m
4 Middlesbrough FC - £5.94m
5 Watford FC - £5.22m
6 Sheffield United - £4.05m
7 Sunderland AFC - £3.38m
8 Millwall FC - £2.25m
9 Swansea City - £2.07m
10 Luton Town - £1.90m
11 West Bromwich Albion - £900Th
12 Huddersfield Town - £846Th
13 Cardiff City - £50Th
14 Blackburn Rovers - 0
15 Birmingham City - 0
16 Preston North End - 0
17 Stoke City - 0
18 Bristol City - 0
19 Coventry City - 0
20 Reading FC - 0
21 Queens Park Rangers - 0
22 Wigan Athletic - 0
23 Blackpool FC - 0
24 Rotherham United - 0

That's incorrect straight away, withought even look8ng into it, as Blackburn have paid a fee for at least 2 players..

[KRBFC]

Reading some of the posts on here, I think some posters believe we can compete with the clubs who are already a City of millions to a town of 70k? You guys really need a reality check of life as a BFC fan pre premier league. What is happening now is 3 years in front of what I thought would be happening, and couldn't expect anymore

What has population got to do with anything?

We've sold our best players for £70m-80m and that money is being sucked into a blackhole and not being spent to improve the team or benefit the club in any way.

[clarethomer]

What is harsh about calling out the lack of reinvestment? We've sold all of our best players for well over £60m and reinvested peanuts. Put 2 proper players into this Kompany side and we'll be a serious threat, instead it's scraping the barrel.

I've never seen the striker from Cardiff play, if that's VK first choice, they rejected 2.5? throw them 4-5 mill. We'll sell him for £15m+ in 2 years anyway if we really believe in the project, right.... that's the strategy correct?

I was more coming from the angle of that the club has been reinvesting and have bought more than they have loaned and the ones that they have bought all seem to have potential for future profit.

VK has been saying all along that selling one player has to
Find 3 new players and you won’t be replacing like for like.

I was simply pointing out that the strategy they said they were taking has been more or less consistent.

There is clearly some money there to spend. Let’s see where we are at end of the month before jumping down the clubs throat eh?

[Hedontplayforyou]

Article written for Tella CT ?

[joey13]

Sounds like they’ve been trying to sign Cabral for around 4m? Before that offered over 6m for O’Hare. Probably would have signed him if it wasn’t for this injury. Our window and business isn’t finishing at Tella.

I do find it funny that a theme common on here under Dyche was the lack of use of the loan market, and now it’s been used for 3 / 11 signings, it’s used as a criticism of the owners and strategy.

Also, weren’t you keen on us signing Delap on loan?

Kompany said he didn’t like loans

[Boss Hogg]

What has population got to do with anything?

We've sold our best players for £70m-80m and that money is being sucked into a blackhole and not being spent to improve the team or benefit the club in any way.

Not a black hole. Repaying debt.

[randomclaret2]

Not a black hole. Repaying debt.

And the loss of Premier League TV money

[burnleymik]

We have plenty of threads for financial discussions. It's always the same people derailing this thread.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Kompany said he didn’t like loans

In context, he presumably meant that he’d rather have permanent players as it tends to lead to a more cohesive squad, and being part of “the group”.
However needs must, especially when you are signing 13-15 players in one window. You simply can’t expect Burnley to pay fees for all 13-15.

Having said that, I’ve just got a feeling that one of our final additions will be for a relatively decent fee

[randomclaret2]

I'll Tella you now, and I'll Tella you firmly, I dont ever want to go to...

[Goody1975]

We have plenty of threads for financial discussions. It's always the same people derailing this thread.

Yep, and he knows it.

[clarethomer]

Kompany said he didn’t like loans

He said they were a last resort and good for getting quality in that you otherwise wouldn’t be able to afford.

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[joey13]

He said they were a last resort and good for getting quality in that you otherwise wouldn’t be able to afford.

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In other words he doesn’t like them

[Goody1975]

In other words he doesn’t like them

....unless they can be used to bring in quality players that either wouldn't be affordable or unavailable as a permanent transfer.

Tella has a fair amount of experience at Premier League level and an excellent reputation at Southampton, they obviously feel he needs a full season playing the majority of games to benefit both him and the club.

If it works out it's a win win.

[joey13]

....unless they can be used to bring in quality players that either wouldn't be affordable or unavailable as a permanent transfer.

Tella has a fair amount of experience at Premier League level and an excellent reputation at Southampton, they obviously feel he needs a full season playing to benefit the him and the club.

If it works out it a win win.

Never seen him play , hopefully he’s decent.

[Goody1975]

*PLEASE STOP*

[burnleymik]

I'm commenting my thoughts on our potential newest addition and our transfer window to date. Not sure how I derailed the topic, I can't help but draw the attention and quotes of others. At least I didn't post some awful attempt at a pun joke, now that would be derailing the topic.

You specifically drew the conclusion about loans replacing permanent players and the money brought in and spent so far.

KRBFC wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:11 pm
What has population got to do with anything?

We've sold our best players for £70m-80m and that money is being sucked into a blackhole and not being spent to improve the team or benefit the club in any way.

[clarethomer]

In other words he doesn’t like them

Not quite. They have their place is the way I read it.

We couldn’t afford to buy Maatsen and THB so he understands that these players are only available to us on loan.

[Goody1975]

Back on topic.

Tella has played 33 Premier League games and started 17 of them. 10 last season and 7 the year before.

He's not some inexperienced kid straight out of the academy.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Back on topic.

Tella has played 33 Premier League games and started 17 of them. 10 last season and 7 the year before.

He's not some inexperienced kid straight out of the academy.

9 of his ten starts last season came on the left wing.

Very much looks like Kompany wants his front four to look something like

Benson, Brownhill, Tella
Barnes

[Goody1975]

9 of his ten starts last season came on the left wing.

Very much looks like Kompany wants his front four to look something like

Benson, Brownhill, Tella
Barnes

Not sure

There is Bastien, Rodriguez and Twine to fit in and Costelloe has been excellent. If Tella does comes in I'd still expect at least another three.

[MDWat]

Think it’s obvious we’re going to go for a striker.

Total nonsense to suggest that he sees Barnes as his first choice striker. He’s the only choice striker at the moment.

[Goody1975]

The five subs rule suits the stronger clubs, the quality we sign in the remainder of the window will see if that is to be a massive benefit to us, it's not just a case of extra bodies.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Think it’s obvious we’re going to go for a striker.

Total nonsense to suggest that he sees Barnes as his first choice striker. He’s the only choice striker at the moment.

It was more a demonstration of the formation than the players. Right now Barnes is the only striker we have that’s fit

[Spijed]

Hogwash!

Highest Spending Clubs In The Championship So Far -

1 Burnley FC - £14.90m
2 Norwich City - £12.96m
3 Hull City - £10.35m
4 Middlesbrough FC - £5.94m
5 Watford FC - £5.22m
6 Sheffield United - £4.05m
7 Sunderland AFC - £3.38m
8 Millwall FC - £2.25m
9 Swansea City - £2.07m
10 Luton Town - £1.90m
11 West Bromwich Albion - £900Th
12 Huddersfield Town - £846Th
13 Cardiff City - £50Th
14 Blackburn Rovers - 0
15 Birmingham City - 0
16 Preston North End - 0
17 Stoke City - 0
18 Bristol City - 0
19 Coventry City - 0
20 Reading FC - 0
21 Queens Park Rangers - 0
22 Wigan Athletic - 0
23 Blackpool FC - 0
24 Rotherham United - 0

Didn't realise Norwich had spent quite a bit.

[HalifaxClaret]

More loans to replace outgoings, where’s the money going? what happened to the buy, develop then sell?

Everything on the cheap. Happily flog half of our team for 80 million quid but won’t reinvest £5m on a Cornet replacement? Pure cheap. They don’t even believe in their own strategy, won’t fund it properly.

Tell them the send Maatsen back.

[Vegas Claret]

The five subs rule suits the stronger clubs, the quality we sign in the remainder of the window will see if that is to be a massive benefit to us, it's not just a case of extra bodies.

nail firmly whacked on the head

[KRBFC]

Tell them the send Maatsen back.

It's over, stop quoting me trying to further derail the thread.

I already said: '' I'm all for loans of players out of our budget who significantly improve us, Maatsen for example.''

[brunlea99]

Will Tella be taking our pens ?

[Bigvince]

We don’t get pens

[warksclaret]

Tella seems odd to me. Talk of Che Adams going, Armstrong going out on loan, and a lack of fire power in a Saints team that must be favorites to go down. Why loan out an explosive forward

[Newcastleclaret93]

Tella seems odd to me. Talk of Che Adams going, Armstrong going out on loan, and a lack of fire power in a Saints team that must be favorites to go down. Why loan out an explosive forward

It’s because they have just signed Sekou Mara for ten mil.

Then they already have 6 players than can play in the potential wide berths.

Makes sense for them to loan him out this season.

[Red Fox Rocks Socks]

Will Tella be taking our pens ?

Pen and tella????

[IanMcL]

Rebuild time at Saints.

[elwaclaret]

Didn't realise Norwich had spent quite a bit.

Yes, one of the reasons there is so much pressure on Dean Smith to get them back up. They’ve backed him.

[Vegas Claret]

Rebuild time at Saints.

amazed JWP is still there

[FeedTheArf]

We have plenty of threads for financial discussions. It's always the same people derailing this thread.

That’s because you can’t possibly have a discussion about transfers without discussing finances. The two go hand in hand. To think otherwise is incredibly naive.

[NewClaret]

Rebuild time at Saints.

Think they’re in for Zirkzee which I’m gutted about. I know it was always highly unlikely but before the PL clubs came in I held feint hope

[GodIsADeeJay81]

That’s because you can’t possibly have a discussion about transfers without discussing finances. The two go hand in hand. To think otherwise is incredibly naive.

Having a rant about where money is,.or isn't going, isn't relevant though.
It's just KRBFC detailing the thread with his inane waffling.