Oh Burnley is wonderful….

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:36 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:32 pm
I'm old enough to remember certain parts of the Longside chanting "We're Nazis from the Turf". Wouldn't want to hear that again,so maybe it's time to drop this other outdated and irrelevant chant too now.
You’re just jumping on the current anti-Nazi bandwagon.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by 4midable » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:09 pm

Wembley09 wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:23 pm
A few posters through out this thread of said they don't sing this if they have their kids with them, or now they are older.

But yeah, it's always been disrespectful just like it was 30 years ago. Now because of all this women and equal rights, it's now time for people to complain about this song? Those who disliked it could have been complaining years ago and not jumping on the current bandwagon.

Like others have said the word B*stard is disrespectful to certiain folk.
Try and cancel it
It'll just get sung more and more

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:17 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:32 pm
I'm old enough to remember certain parts of the Longside chanting "We're Nazis from the Turf". Wouldn't want to hear that again,so maybe it's time to drop this other outdated and irrelevant chant too now.
That my friend is stirring bullsh1t. I have stood on the Longside since the late sixties and never heard that,perhaps you need either a hearing test ?
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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by 4midable » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:29 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:17 pm
That my friend is stirring bullsh1t. I have stood on the Longside since the late sixties and never heard that,perhaps you need either a hearing test ?
Was thinking exactly the same
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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Bigbopper » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:34 pm

These days younger people use far stronger words than t*ts and f*anny in general conversation. As a friend once commented you are better off hearing that than being deaf. Hope that does not offend the hard of hearing.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by 4midable » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:35 pm

I just found it funny that 5000 people sang it in full voice today, and some posters think its a small minority
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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Top Claret » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:19 pm

4midable wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:35 pm
I just found it funny that 5000 people sang it in full voice today, and some posters think its a small minority


Well I was at the game and the song was sung more than most others, and sang load and proud by the vast majority including 5 lovely looking young ladies a couple of rows in front of me

The song is only offensive to the PC brigade who need to stick to shopping on a Saturday afternoon as they don't belong in a football ground
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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Leisure » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:35 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:32 pm
I'm old enough to remember certain parts of the Longside chanting "We're Nazis from the Turf". Wouldn't want to hear that again,so maybe it's time to drop this other outdated and irrelevant chant too now.
You're talking bulls**t there! Never happened.
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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Bosscat » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:45 pm

Folk can sing what they like if this keeps up 😁

Makes good reading ... joint top scorers in the League with 11 from 6 games.
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Plus we are above the Fiddlers who have lost 3 on the bounce 😁

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Jimmymaccer » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:47 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:35 pm
You're talking bulls**t there! Never happened.
I’ve been on The Turf since a nipper in the late 60’s and heard plenty,……

But never that.
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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Duffer_ » Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:05 pm

timshorts wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:06 pm
I don't like either version. Just leave the song/tune to the Scummers who sort of own it. The stealing of other teams pet songs is sort of pathetic. Like hearing Chelsea fans singing Blaydon races when most of them have never been that far north or know where Blaydon is.

If we are going to do that, we could just take the **** out of ourselves and others by singing something totally daft
"oh burnely is fu**ing woke... etc..
It's full of hummus, tofu and liberals"
Would confuse everybody.
One of Merthyr's best ideas was to have a mascot called "Shaggy the sheep". we know what we are.
Shaggy is now retired, but it was funny while it lasted - including in the annual mascot Olympics.

So we just need to find something that is our usp and adapt songs to fit:-
To new orders "Everything's gone green"
Oh we've got beef pies, oh we've got lamb pies, oh we've got pork pies... But we've never seen anything like kompany before. Up down all around, pass the ball all round the ground. Tonight I think we'll take you down.
We'll get three points before we go home.

Which will make no sense unless you know the song. It was just an example.

Or the rather simpler "Pies. Pies, baby".

Finding songs that you can substitute "Mills" for and have it still make sense is tougher.
Do you mean Temptation, rather than Everything's Gone Green? I like your lyrics fwiw but "lamb pies", really? Meat, cheese and pork, surely?!

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Wembley09 » Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:17 pm

Jimmymaccer wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:47 pm
I’ve been on The Turf since a nipper in the late 60’s and heard plenty,……

But never that.
People making up stuff to validate their arguments.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:20 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:19 pm
Well I was at the game and the song was sung more than most others, and sang load and proud by the vast majority including 5 lovely looking young ladies a couple of rows in front of me

The song is only offensive to the PC brigade who need to stick to shopping on a Saturday afternoon as they don't belong in a football ground
Odd that you've just witnessed a 5-1 away win but your only post about the day is about singing.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:22 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:32 pm
I'm old enough to remember certain parts of the Longside chanting "We're Nazis from the Turf". Wouldn't want to hear that again,so maybe it's time to drop this other outdated and irrelevant chant too now.
Burnley's oldest fan joining Burnley's main fans board just last month, hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:57 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:32 pm
I'm old enough to remember certain parts of the Longside chanting "We're Nazis from the Turf". Wouldn't want to hear that again,so maybe it's time to drop this other outdated and irrelevant chant too now.
I can't remember that exact 1 but I can certainly remember plenty of other.unsavoury 1s at the end of the day if that's what people want to sing & no harm is done leave folk alone.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:11 am

It’s a song. Stop this cancel culture.
Starting taking my daughter on the turf when she was 4.
At 20 today she was singing it.

ITS A SONG.
If it upset you don’t go and stay at home washing your car.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:13 am

This comes along side people walking in the country and complaining they saw a cow **** and it smells. If it upsets you stay home, easy.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:03 am

Also a song which mocks or celebrates the death of an owner of a team we don’t like must be banned.
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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:04 am

Any song with the word b4syard, which is similar or worse than tits, must be banned.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:05 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:03 am
Also a song which mocks or celebrates the death of an owner of a team we don’t like must be banned.
Stop this cancel culture. If it upsets you stay at home, easy.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:05 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:03 am
Also a song which mocks or celebrates the death of an owner of a team we don’t like must be banned.
Yes, it should.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:06 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:05 am
Yes, it should.
I don’t and won’t sign it.

What are we going to do.
Cancel thier season tickets

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:08 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:05 am
Stop this cancel culture. If it upsets you stay at home, easy.
That’s what I said.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:10 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:08 am
That’s what I said.
The only ‘cancel culture’ here is those suggesting that people with other opinions should stay at home rather than go to the game. Hypocrite.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:12 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:06 am
I don’t and won’t sign it.

What are we going to do.
Cancel thier season tickets
I'm sure they used to say the same thing about fans making monkey noises at black players en masse.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:15 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:10 am
The only ‘cancel culture’ here is those suggesting that people with other opinions should stay at home rather than go to the game. Hypocrite.
So your saying get rid of most of the songs our fans sing and if they do ban them ?

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:17 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:12 am
I'm sure they used to say the same thing about fans making monkey noises at black players en masse.
So we are now banning most of the songs we sing??
Banning 70% of our supporters

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:19 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:15 am
So your saying get rid of most of the songs our fans sing and if they do ban them ?
Erm, no. So you’re saying get rid of refuse collectors?

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:20 am

Putting literally thousands of people out of work?

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:21 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:17 am
So we are now banning most of the songs we sing??
Banning 70% of our supporters
Not sure where you get that percentage from, but coming from someone who doesn't find it odd that his grown up daughter sings about tits and fannies, it's hardly surprising you have a distorted viewpoint.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:23 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:12 am
I'm sure they used to say the same thing about fans making monkey noises at black players en masse.
So your saying the song about fans singing about tits etc is now the same as monkeys noises.

That’s a whole new level of cancel culture.

Monkey noises was never acceptable.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:25 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:21 am
Not sure where you get that percentage from, but coming from someone who doesn't find it odd that his grown up daughter sings about tits and fannies, it's hardly surprising you have a distorted viewpoint.
It’s just a song ffs.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:27 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:23 am
So your saying the song about fans singing about tits etc is now the same as monkeys noises.

That’s a whole new level of cancel culture.

Monkey noises was never acceptable.
No. I'm not claiming they're the same, but why are you so adamant that this song is acceptable?

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:27 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:21 am
Not sure where you get that percentage from, but coming from someone who doesn't find it odd that his grown up daughter sings about tits and fannies, it's hardly surprising you have a distorted viewpoint.
Well I think 70% of our supporters were singing it in the stand today at the game I attended.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:29 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:25 am
It’s just a song ffs.
Yes, an embarrassingly **** one.

Anyone over the age of about 12 who sings it really needs to have a word with themselves.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:29 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:27 am
No. I'm not claiming they're the same, but why are you so adamant that this song is acceptable?
It just not the same, and if that song is not acceptable. Nor are Several others.. but let’s just pick on one eh,

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:30 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:27 am
Well I think 70% of our supporters were singing it in the stand today at the game I attended.
How observant of you.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:32 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:29 am
It just not the same, and if that song is not acceptable. Nor are Several others.. but let’s just pick on one eh,
Stop digging.

:oops:

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:32 am

Surprised how many people are so passionate about this song. No one is trying to ‘cancel’ the song. Sing away your dignity by all means.
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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:48 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:32 am
Stop digging.

:oops:
Don’t think I am digging.
Think you
Lot
Want to ban all
Songs and have the fans sat watching in silence

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by WazzaClaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:57 am

Pickles wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:06 am
I've always thought "Rise, mill town, rise" would work well as a sort of slogan but I think I'm in the minority.
Never understood why this has never taken off, it would sound brilliant!

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by davideyresleftear » Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:36 am

Let the old men sing their song about tits and fannies, it’s the only time they ever get near them.
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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:41 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:20 pm
Odd that you've just witnessed a 5-1 away win but your only post about the day is about singing.



Troll

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:46 am

Top Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:41 am
Troll
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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Gaia » Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:14 am

The monkey chant and the Burnley is wonderful chant are both discriminatory chants. One is racial discrimination and one is sexual discrimination. It's like the defenders of this chant are arguing that sexual discrimination is acceptable. Why is sexual discrimination acceptable?

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by AmbleClaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:56 am

Leisure wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:35 pm
You're talking bulls**t there! Never happened.
I think you'll find it did actually, National Front were pretty popular on football terraces in the 70s.Assume you'll be denying the dart throwing next.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by AmbleClaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:02 am

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:22 pm
Burnley's oldest fan joining Burnley's main fans board just last month, hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Sh1t stirrer.
Christ,I now remember why I took a 3 year break from this board. Was previously on Clarets Mad then this but you obviously know me better than myself. Where have I claimed to be Burnley's oldest fan. And for the record, that was chanted for a while by the brain-dead NF skinheads we unfortunately had, like most other teams at the time.

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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by HyperClaret » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:21 am

As a young female Burnley fan I thought I'd just chime in here (I haven't skimmed the whole thread to see if any other women have commented, but I can't imagine there are many)

I was at the Watford game a couple of weeks ago and despite the loss I had a great time, since I don't live in Burnley, and so I am not at many matches in person.

Every time 'Oh Burnley is Wonderful' started up I would sing along, since I wanted to include myself and sing all of the chants with the rest of the fans.

However, every time the "t*ts f*nny and clarets" line comes up, I would mumble rather than sing full-pelt, or just stop altogether - because in my opinion it's a pretty lame, outdated line, and I feel a bit embarrassed singing it especially as a female supporter.

I also noticed that the line itself seems to be the quietest part of the chant, perhaps as other people who think the same way as me also sing it less enthusiastically.

Just because you hear people singing along, doesn't mean they're wholeheartedly endorsing the song. I want to support the club and sing as loudly as I can, so yes, I sing along to *most* of the song.

That doesn't change the fact that it's terrible, outdated and that we should update the lyrics - especially if it's causing fans to sing more quietly than they want to :)
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Re: Oh Burnley is wonderful….

Post by Leisure » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:40 am

AmbleClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:56 am
I think you'll find it did actually, National Front were pretty popular on football terraces in the 70s.Assume you'll be denying the dart throwing next.
Why would I deny something that actually happened but what you said didn't!

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Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:48 am

Fans were singing it in the town centre in Chorley followed by the Jack Walker chant, I was embarrassed to be honest, female shoppers with kids walking past.

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