Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[AGENT_CLARET]

Be a worry if we don’t bring in at least one striker as well as a centre half.

The new lad plays this role, we have Twine, Rodriguez and Barnes if we're desperate don't worry we scored 5 on Saturday and only one out and out striker scored a single goal

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

The new lad plays this role, we have Twine, Rodriguez and Barnes if we're desperate don't worry we scored 5 on Saturday and only one out and out striker scored a single goal

It’s relying on the above to stay fit all season that is the worry!

[alwaysaclaret]

New lad to be announced today then a CB in the two day's and this transfer window is complete

Should be complete, but I'm not holding my breath. Brownhill being sold would be absolutely disastrous on several levels, would have an effect on morale in the dressing room, and an effect I believe on the crowd in terms of size, so imo wouldn't make financial sense. One reason I wouldn't rule it out though, is why is twine still not involved, could it be Brownhill's emergence in what could be looked on as twines position. Just a thought.

[RVclaret]

Should be complete, but I'm not holding my breath. Brownhill being sold would be absolutely disastrous on several levels, would have an effect on morale in the dressing room, and an effect I believe on the crowd in terms of size, so imo wouldn't make financial sense. One reason I wouldn't rule it out though, is why is twine still not involved, could it be Brownhill's emergence in what could be looked on as twines position. Just a thought.

Twine has been injured / getting fit. Will undoubtedly be in the match day squad once he’s up to speed.

[randomclaret2]

New lad to be announced today then a CB in the two day's and this transfer window is complete

Is that a prediction or what you are hoping for ?

[RVclaret]

I think a new cb arriving would present a bit of a conundrum, a Charlie Taylor conundrum - surely can’t be benched in the Championship (for his own quality / experience reasons) but also not sure he’s the ‘type’ of wing back VK wants - see Maatsen / Vitinho for that. Interesting one really.

[alwaysaclaret]

Twine has been injured / getting fit. Will undoubtedly be in the match day squad once he’s up to speed.

As I said, just a thought, but I wouldn't completely rule out there's something behind it, until the window shuts and brownhill is still a claret.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Is that a prediction or what you are hoping for ?

What will happen, the lad Anass Zaroury was at Gawthorpe Sunday deal done, announcement today

[AGENT_CLARET]

It’s relying on the above to stay fit all season that is the worry!

New lad today plus Twine, Rodriguez and Barnes makes four forwards how many do you want, they don't all need to be fit at the same time

[randomclaret2]

What will happen, the lad Anass Zaroury was at gawththope Sunday deal done, announcement today

Excellent ...is the Centre Back a definite as well ?

[Colburn_Claret]

The club sold a lot of players for various reasons, some because they deserved the chance, some for the money to reinvest in new players.
I doubt AP will see rhe need to sell Brownhill for any reason

[AGENT_CLARET]

Excellent ...is the Centre Back a definite as well ?

Anass Zaroury is 100%, a new CB I've no idea about, that's me wishful thinking for an end to the perfect transfer window

[randomclaret2]

Anass Zaroury is 100%, a new CB I've no idea about, that's me wishful thinking for an end to the perfect transfer window

Thanks

[Firthy]

I think Zaroury could be our last signing and that Brownhill will stay. We're in profit from transfers and paid off a chunk of the loan so don't think we're desperate for the money. We have a lot of young versatile players that can play from full back to attacking midfield with plenty of goals in them so might not need any more forwards. It's harder to cover 4-5 players all capable of scorong than one out and out goalscorer

[agreenwood]

Signing the Turkish Brentford striker on loan.

[agreenwood]

Here…

[Pearcey]

I’d be very surprised and incredibly disappointed if we sold Brownhill.

I’d still like to see a proper striker signed.

[RVclaret]

Here…

Interesting

He’s a very talented player

More of a 10 / centre forward than an outright striker, should fit the bill

[agreenwood]

Scored 6 goals in 13 appearances for Turkey and spent last season with Galatassary.

Never seen him play, but appears to have a good pedigree.

[agreenwood]

Loan reportedly costing us €850k and no option to buy.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Loan reportedly costing us €850k and no option to buy.

This is a rental not a loan

[andyh]

Loan reportedly costing us €850k and no option to buy.

Should be easy to make up a good song with that surname,

[BuryClaret]

Should be easy to make up a good song with that surname,

Can't wait to hear our stadium announcer trying to read it out

[Goody1975]

Scored 6 goals in 13 appearances for Turkey and spent last season with Galatassary.

Never seen him play, but appears to have a good pedigree.

Saw him linked a few days ago but thought it was agent talk.

If we sign the two players mentioned (Zaroury & Dervişoğlu), we have four attacking slots in the team and have the following to choose from:-

Rodriguez
Barnes
Dervişoğlu
Twine
Churlinov
Zaroury
Tella
Gudmundsson
Benson
Vitinho
Brownhill
Bastien
Costelloe
Richardson

14 Players!!!

[quoonbeatz]

Should be easy to make up a good song with that surname,

Halil Dervisoglu
I want to let you know what I was going through
All the time we were apart
I thought of you
You were in my heart
My love never changed
I still feel the same.

https://youtu.be/yalM-2ih7RU

[Darthlaw]

Surely something can be worked around Lionel Richie's Hello?

[Lancasterclaret]

Halil?

Its the goal you are looking for

I can see it in your eyes, and I can see it in the goal

Halil

[claretonthecoast1882]

Halil Dervisoglu
I want to let you know what I was going through
All the time we were apart
I thought of you
You were in my heart
My love never changed
I still feel the same.

https://youtu.be/yalM-2ih7RU

I always try to work out the song before clicking the link, this had me stumped.

Now I have clicked on it I wish I hadn't

[ŽižkovClaret]

Should be easy to make up a good song with that surname,

Doo doo doo, Halil Dervisoglu
Doo doo doo yer wanna come for tea
Doo doo doo Turkish best will do ya
Doo doo doo he plays for Burn-a-lee

[steve1264b]

Scored 6 goals in 13 appearances for Turkey and spent last season with Galatassary.

Never seen him play, but appears to have a good pedigree.

6 in 13 looks good doesn't it until you see the teams

Azerbaijan
3 against Gibraltar
Faroe islands
Lithuania

4 at home 2 away

[Jakubs Tash]

Signing the Turkish Brentford striker on loan.

Can't be right. AGENT_CLARET said Zaroury and a centre half and that's it......

[Jakubs Tash]

Interesting

He’s a very talented player

More of a 10 / centre forward than an outright striker, should fit the bill

Agreed. Maybe it's the Brentford kit but he reminds me of Benrahma a bit. Looks quick, tricky and direct. Could be a very good addition.

[randomclaret2]

The Black Lace masterpiece ' Agadoo ' is coming to mind...

[Ric_C]

Saw him linked a few days ago but thought it was agent talk.

If we sign the two players mentioned (Zaroury & Dervişoğlu), we have four attacking slots in the team and have the following to choose from:-

Rodriguez
Barnes
Dervişoğlu
Twine
Churlinov
Zaroury
Tella
Gudmundsson
Benson
Vitinho
Brownhill
Bastien
Costelloe
Richardson

14 Players!!!

I agree we are over burdened for these positions, but also these types of role usually involve players finding and losing form quite quickly. I'd think Vitinho will be used as a fullback now so that would change to 13

I'd split those 13 into these brackets

Reliable Attacking midfielders - 2
Brownhill
Bastien

Wingers who can change a game (starting or off the bench) -4
Benson
Churlinov
Tella
Zaroury

Dedicated number 9's -2
Jay Rod
Dervişoğlu (presume he's a number 9)

Potentially injury prone? - 2
Twine
JBG

Should only be used sparingly -1
Barnes

Possible to send out on loan? -2
Richardson
Costelloe

So for arguments sake, if we send a couple of the youngsters out and we have a couple of injuries, we'd have a pool of 8 for 4 positions, which is pretty healthy. My only concern is we've signed too many of the same type of player, but the proof will be in the eating on that one after we've seen them play for a while.

[NewClaret]

Can’t say I’m too excited by this one..!

[Duffer_]

The Black Lace masterpiece ' Agadoo ' is coming to mind...

Strangely, I think another Black Lace gem, 'Do The Conga', might scan better.

Do-do-do Halil Dervisoglu
Do-do-do will score tonight/today for sure
Do-do-do Halil Dervisoglu

Repeat until it achieves 1,000 BPM

[claretonthecoast1882]

Think Twine is a bit unfortunate to be considered as maybe injury prone

22/23 picked up an injury pre season
21/22 played 45 league games
20/21 played 44 league games

[Ric_C]

Think Twine is a bit unfortunate to be considered as maybe injury prone

22/23 picked up an injury pre season
21/22 played 45 league games
20/21 played 44 league games

Yeah I was just thinking he might break down again which can happen with attacking players. Hopefully not!

[burnleymik]

New lad to be announced today then a CB in the two day's and this transfer window is complete

oops...

[burnleymik]

What will happen, the lad Anass Zaroury was at Gawthorpe Sunday deal done, announcement today

You still sure?

[forzagranata]

I get that you don't like the current owners mate, but we are currently in sixth place and have won two games out of six

It is impossible to say now that selling Brownhill will cost us promotion, and you are far too sensible a poster to go down that route!

I don't want him to go, I think he's a cut above this level but he's got two years left on this contract (as Spice says we might have control of that extra year, but he might as well)

He's never going to be worth as much as he is now from a purely financial point of view, and like Fofana and Gordan and Anthony, we can ask (and probably get) far more than he's actually worth

That has to be factored in when you are a club in the championship, whether we like it or not

Yep, I am just saying there are also consequences (and potential financial ones too) to selling him.

Selling Brownhill at this stage in the window would weaken the squad, reduce our chances of promotion, potentially upset the manager and damage the squad's morale.

It would be very short-term thinking and as critical as I am of the club's current owner, I am sure, even he, is well aware of these dangers.

[burnleymik]

Yep, I am just saying there are also consequences (and potential financial ones too) to selling him.

Selling Brownhill at this stage in the window would weaken the squad, reduce our chances of promotion, potentially upset the manager and damage the squad's morale.

It would be very short-term thinking and as critical as I am of the club's current owner, I am sure, even he, is well aware of these dangers.

I would also imagine a lot would be down to Brownhill himself. Would he actually want to go? The Prem tempted him away from Bristol to join us...

[boyyanno]

Another bloody loan. That makes, Maatsen, Bellis, Tella and this lad that are all first teamers?

Kompany said loans would be the last resort, I'm not sure how I feel about 4 of them making up nearly half of the starting 11.

[Goody1975]

potentially upset the manager and damage the squad's morale.

The manager has said all along that he is aware of the financial situation and has bought into it, I feel IF Brownhill was subject to a bid then VK would have the say on whether or not it would benefit the club after sitting down with Alan Pace. The vibe I have got is that the selling and buying of players has been a joint decision between the chairman and manager.

That is my opinion and NOT fact.

[burnleymik]

Another bloody loan. That makes, Maatsen, Bellis, Tella and this lad that are all first teamers?

Kompany said loans would be the last resort, I'm not sure how I feel about 4 of them making up nearly half of the starting 11.

To be fair we are getting to last resort territory for this last signing. We need someone good enough to make an impact and finding one in the correct price range seems to have been very difficult. With time running out and it being fairly clear Jayrod won't have the fitness for this many competitive games coming thick and fast, we needed to try and get someone in and fast.

[Silkyskills1]

New lad today plus Twine, Rodriguez and Barnes makes four forwards how many do you want, they don't all need to be fit at the same time

That's right but equally half of them have a history of being unfit at the same time. But, if you say so then that's fine.

[TheFamilyCat]

I picked Dervisoglu in my fantasy team. Admittedly he was in the "cheapest option bench-filler" role and have since transferred him out but I'd like to think I'm up there with VK when it comes to spotting a player.

[boyyanno]

To be fair we are getting to last resort territory for this last signing. We need someone good enough to make an impact and finding one in the correct price range seems to have been very difficult. With time running out and it being fairly clear Jayrod won't have the fitness for this many competitive games coming thick and fast, we needed to try and get someone in and fast.

I don't disagree but we have had all window to target and sign players, had more money to spend than most clubs in the division and yet we've still ended up with four first teamers who are loan signings despite our manager stating that they would be the "last resort" kind of deals.

I can't help thinking that a couple of the wide players (of which we are ridiculously well stocked now) should have been loans and we should have used our resources to sign permanent players in other positions.

[claretonthecoast1882]

2015 Why don't we use the loan market better
2016 Why don't we use the loan market better
2017 Why don't we use the loan market better
2018 Why don't we use the loan market better
2019 Why don't we use the loan market better
2020 Why don't we use the loan market better
2021 Why don't we use the loan market better
2022 Why are we using the loan market so much

[Hedontplayforyou]

They’ve already stated that they won’t overpay for players, maybe the targets we desired have been what we consider “too high”, so we have moved on to something more affordable , whilst strengthening other areas for prices that we deem acceptable to move on without too much risk

+

If the loan signings make the squad stronger and are a decent calibre then why on Earth not?

See Maatsen, THB and Tella