Haaland joins City

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:22 pm

Now City have reportedly bid £60million for Calvin Phillips. I suppose their season tickets must cost sbout £25k each and they woukd be the concession ones.

Poor old QPR and Rovers. FFP???

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:25 pm

Stayingup wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:22 pm
Now City have reportedly bid £60million for Calvin Phillips. I suppose their season tickets must cost sbout £25k each and they woukd be the concession ones.

Poor old QPR and Rovers. FFP???

TBF you split the fee over the course of the contract, hence you now see 5yr deals as the relative norm for younger players at least. Added to this, any younger prospect they sell on shows up as pure profit, so alongside chunk sponsorships, its not hard to abide by the rules as they are. Especially if Gabriel Jesus goes for a decent fee

distortiondave · Post by **distortiondave** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:27 pm

Stayingup wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:22 pm
Now City have reportedly bid £60million for Calvin Phillips. I suppose their season tickets must cost sbout £25k each and they woukd be the concession ones.

Poor old QPR and Rovers. FFP???

Ha. I read that as Norwich City. That's FMRTE in real life is that.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:28 pm

Smile wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:14 pm
It'll be interesting how he compares to Kane.

He will show Kane up for what he is. An overrated player given the levels he has been hyped up to. Goes missing when it really matters.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:47 am

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:13 pm
Haaland is a ridiculous player, you only have to look at his goal yesterday to see how explosive his power is. If he plays the games he will walk the golden boot in that City team

I don't disagree, on quality out of the two I think Haaland is much the better player, but in terms of player roles, I think Nunez is more suited to Liverpool than Haaland is for City, unless Pep can coach him into playing a different way.

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:55 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:13 pm
City might see a season on loan at Turf Moor in the Championship as a good way to ease Haaland into the rigours of English football? Works for me

guidance from Ashley Barnes, just what the lad needs for the Prem

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:01 pm

La Liga boss has got the arse on and is reporting both City and PSG over their dealings with Haaland and Mbappe.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:24 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:01 pm
La Liga boss has got the arse on and is reporting both City and PSG over their dealings with Haaland and Mbappe.

Oh! aye and Barca and Real are paragons of virtue in the market aren't they.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:33 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:24 pm
Oh! aye and Barca and Real are paragons of virtue in the market aren't they.

Simon Jordan did say earlier that they're the ones who started with the Galactico nonsense so they've only themselves to blame.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:53 pm

It’s a total joke. Either have some rules about how can much money be laid out by clubs or just allow them to spend what they want.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:58 pm

£60 million for Phillips!

Pep’s forgotten more about football than I will ever know. I still think he’s off his tits if he thinks Phillips is good enough for the top level.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:29 pm

He's getting trolled and meme'd quite hard on twitter tonight

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:34 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:29 pm
He's getting trolled and meme'd quite hard on twitter tonight

Par for the course ...

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:18 pm

Haarland looked lost at times but Nunez looks a real find. Fast with a good eye for goal

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:56 pm

He could struggle this season. He wouldn’t be the first player to tear it up in the German league then flop in the PL.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:06 am

Cirrus_Minor wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:53 pm
It’s a total joke. Either have some rules about how can much money be laid out by clubs or just allow them to spend what they want.

Have City not made profit in this window?

mikeS · Post by **mikeS** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:34 am

That miss from three yards out that hit the crossbar.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:40 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:06 am
Have City not made profit in this window?

Difficult to get precise figures, but with the sales of Jesus and Sterling among others, they've seemingly made a profit of around £40m with their business thus far.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:38 pm

Have a City friend at work and made a little bet with him that Nunez will score more Premier League goals than Haaland this year, not to say he is better than Haaland but the Liverpool system is so much more suited for Nunez than the City system is for Haaland.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:27 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:28 pm
He will show Kane up for what he is. An overrated player given the levels he has been hyped up to. Goes missing when it really matters.

Haaland just popped in his 9th goal of the season before the end of August. It took Kane until March 7th last season to reach that total.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:38 pm

claret2018 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:56 pm
He could struggle this season. He wouldn’t be the first player to tear it up in the German league then flop in the PL.

You could be right.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:15 pm

Winstonswhite wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:27 pm
Haaland just popped in his 9th goal of the season before the end of August. It took Kane until March 7th last season to reach that total.

Haaland is genuinely world class. Best striker I’ve seen since brazils ronaldo.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:16 pm

He’s scarily good.

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:20 pm

Fantasy captain for the remainder of the season

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:22 pm

9 goals Haaland has to his name, and we are still in August, that's absolutely insane numbers. And he hasn't even played every minute of City's games.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:24 pm

He will smash shearers record

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:25 pm

Vino blanco wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:38 pm
You could be right.

D’oh!

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:30 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:24 pm
He will smash shearers record

If he stays in the PL long enough he may well do, but Kane is likely to be the man to beat by then.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:41 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:15 pm
Haaland is genuinely world class. Best striker I’ve seen since brazils ronaldo.

Agree

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:50 pm

claretburns wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:38 pm
Have a City friend at work and made a little bet with him that Nunez will score more Premier League goals than Haaland this year, not to say he is better than Haaland but the Liverpool system is so much more suited for Nunez than the City system is for Haaland.

How's this going ?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:35 pm

I reckon he’ll bag more than 20 this season.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:44 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:50 pm
How's this going ?

Very badly, I now avoid the friend at work

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:45 pm

Exceptional. Great instinct and very strong physically.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:16 am

claretburns wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:38 pm
Have a City friend at work and made a little bet with him that Nunez will score more Premier League goals than Haaland this year, not to say he is better than Haaland but the Liverpool system is so much more suited for Nunez than the City system is for Haaland.

You might want to re-think this one!

davideyresleftear · Post by **davideyresleftear** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:17 am

Winstonswhite wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:27 pm
Haaland just popped in his 9th goal of the season before the end of August. It took Kane until March 7th last season to reach that total.

Sorry guys but Kane is 100%, absolutely, definitely not overrated.

187 goals in 283 games for spurs
50 goals in 70 games for England

And that’s without including his assists, which does him a disservice because he’s a great playmaker.

Most teams & managers in the world would snap your hand off to take him

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:37 am

davideyresleftear wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:17 am
Sorry guys but Kane is 100%, absolutely, definitely not overrated.

187 goals in 283 games for spurs
50 goals in 70 games for England

And that’s without including his assists, which does him a disservice because he’s a great playmaker.

Most teams & managers in the world would snap your hand off to take him

Harry Kane would be bang average against teams of 20 years ago when football was littered with genuine word class players. Saying that, you can only be as good as the era you play in, but the threshold of what it takes to be world class today is definitely lower in my opinion. The overall quality of the game isn’t as good but the physical levels of players are better.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:26 am

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:35 pm
I reckon he’ll bag more than 20 this season.

This season, as in summer ?

Looks more built for this league, not like others that have come from Germany then flopped.
I can believe ( well I can ) people were writing him off after 1 miss in the charity shield

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:29 am

7/2 for top prem scorer looks a half decent price now.

Sadly for me only 2 off my lucky 15 top scorer in each division have turned up

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:41 am

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:37 am
Harry Kane would be bang average against teams of 20 years ago when football was littered with genuine word class players. Saying that, you can only be as good as the era you play in, but the threshold of what it takes to be world class today is definitely lower in my opinion. The overall quality of the game isn’t as good but the physical levels of players are better.

Strongly disagree.

Standards have got so high that outstanding players are rare.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:41 am

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:37 am
Harry Kane would be bang average against teams of 20 years ago when football was littered with genuine word class players. Saying that, you can only be as good as the era you play in, but the threshold of what it takes to be world class today is definitely lower in my opinion. The overall quality of the game isn’t as good but the physical levels of players are better.

Because the coaching, organisation & overall professionalism is way higher

Just loling @ Kane would be bang average, 20 years ago Beattie was the 3rd highest goal scorer in the PL.

Kane not up to James’ level? Alright then…

taio · Post by **taio** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:45 am

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:37 am
Harry Kane would be bang average against teams of 20 years ago when football was littered with genuine word class players. Saying that, you can only be as good as the era you play in, but the threshold of what it takes to be world class today is definitely lower in my opinion. The overall quality of the game isn’t as good but the physical levels of players are better.

Kane would certainly not be bang average 20 years ago because he's a world class player now, would be back then and it's wrong to say that the quality then was better.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:59 am

Kane's footballing ability (putting aside his outstanding goal statistics over a long number of years, both at club and international level) is exceptional. Some of his assists in the last two years, dropping into that deeper role, have been De Bruyne-esque. I think that he should absolutely be mentioned on the same pedestal as the likes of Mbappe, Haaland, Lewandowski personally as he has facets to his play which are better than all three (albeit, they have the edge in other areas, pace, strength etc).

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:01 am

I’ll tell you something, based on our previous results at City, I’m glad we won’t be facing them his season

Haaland would be grabbing their customary 5 goals by himself (at least)

davideyresleftear · Post by **davideyresleftear** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:30 am

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:37 am
Harry Kane would be bang average against teams of 20 years ago when football was littered with genuine word class players. Saying that, you can only be as good as the era you play in, but the threshold of what it takes to be world class today is definitely lower in my opinion. The overall quality of the game isn’t as good but the physical levels of players are better.

A bang average striker 20 years ago is someone like Kevin Campbell (10 goals in 2002-3) or Dion Dublin (10 goals). Harry Kane is lightyears ahead of that calibre of player

creepingdeath · Post by **creepingdeath** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:52 am

made me chuckle

creepingdeath · Post by **creepingdeath** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:57 am

https://twitter.com/averagestriker/stat ... pJkCctnAuw

Sorry ballsed up the image

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:01 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:45 am
Kane would certainly not be bang average 20 years ago because he's a world class player now, would be back then and it's wrong to say that the quality then was better.

Why is it wrong to say the quality back then was better. The levels of fitness may not have been as high as now but that era was littered with world class ability and the standard of defending much better than now. He wouldn’t be hitting those numbers against defenders 20 years ago. It’s all about opinions obviously and others disagree, that’s fine.

taio · Post by **taio** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:11 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:01 pm
Why is it wrong to say the quality back then was better. The levels of fitness may not have been as high as now but that era was littered with world class ability and the standard of defending much better than now. He wouldn’t be hitting those numbers against defenders 20 years ago. It’s all about opinions obviously and others disagree, that’s fine.

I totally disagree that defenders of 20 years ago were much better. The broader skillset of today's defenders is more developed in my view. You are right it's down to opinion, however I doubt many people would think that Kane would be bang average in that era - it's a baseless thing to conclude.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:35 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:11 pm
I totally disagree that defenders of 20 years ago were much better. The broader skillset of today's defenders is more developed in my view. You are right it's down to opinion, however I doubt many people would think that Kane would be bang average in that era - it's a baseless thing to conclude.

They may be able to pass it and control it a bit better, but overall the defenders need to be able to defend, and a lot can’t. Look at Maguire for example, you seriously think he would be in a United team of Ferdinand, vidic or going back further jaap stam?

taio · Post by **taio** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:42 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:35 pm
They may be able to pass it and control it a bit better, but overall the defenders need to be able to defend, and a lot can’t. Look at Maguire for example, you seriously think he would be in a United team of Ferdinand, vidic or going back further jaap stam?

It's always possible to cherry pick extreme examples to support your viewpoint. I could say James Beattie and Marcus Stewart scored loads of goals in a season 20 or so years ago against, apparently, much better defenders. Would they have been better than Kane? No. It's bizarre saying Kane would've been bang average 20 years ago.