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Twine & Churlinov

Post by burnley007 » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:18 pm

Why haven't they played more minutes?
I thought they would be doing everything to get them playing time. It's hard to find anything to whinge about at the minute, but this is my only gripe atm.

I'm sure there's a decent plan in place...

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:20 pm

Well, for a start they both have had significant injuries this season -

I’m sure they will have a role to play from now until the end of the season.
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by RVclaret » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:21 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:18 pm
I'm sure there's a decent plan in place...
Think you answered your own question.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by claptrappers_union » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:22 pm

It’s hard to change a winning team

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by summitclaret » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:22 pm

Would have been great to bring Twine on at the end for that free kick on Tuesday night. Perfect position as well.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by clarethomer » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:24 pm

Too many good players - hard to see past those that are starting at the moment though.

Will get their chance and you would hope that given our last game was only 2 days ago, these games will see us using our squad a bit more if recovery time is too short for some players.

Given the world cup break we have just had, we have had fresh players, however games will come fast and I expect we will see more of these 2 as a result.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:29 pm

who exactly do you drop for the pair of them ? Our squad is very strong and it's brilliant !
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by burnley007 » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:36 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:29 pm
who exactly do you drop for the pair of them ? Our squad is very strong and it's brilliant !
Not dropping anyone, just need minutes at the end of games. Tricky though
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:38 pm

I think they’ll get a fair chunk of time on the pitch in the next 3 games.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:42 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:36 pm
Not dropping anyone, just need minutes at the end of games. Tricky though
I think if we get to a point where we are a 2-3 up and in control against someone with 30 mins to go they will get time, tricky though as you suggest. I figured the one who would be nailed on to get game time was Bastien but so far when he has played he hasn't been great (maybe that's down to lack of minutes also though)

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by HiThere » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:43 pm

You can't give players minutes if they aren't fit enough to start a game and the match doesn't suit them coming on as a sub.
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Stayingup » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:46 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:22 pm
It’s hard to change a winning team
Thats correct. No point. But these guys will get their chance.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:48 pm

I think the OP has a point and based on the lack of game time these players have seen this season I wouldn't be surprised if VK looks to loan them out and try to offload in the summer

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by DCWat » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:51 pm

Some take longer to bed in. Throw into the mix; how well we have been doing, the form of others and the injuries that they have both experienced, you’ll be somewhere near as to why we’ve not seen much of either, so far (you can add McNally and Egan-Reilly to the list, too).

I think it’s been pretty remarkable just how well the majority have hit the ground running - there were bound to be a few that had to bide their time.

I do think we will start to see both getting more minutes in the coming months - let’s just give them time and trust in Kompany to do the right thing for them and the team.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by HiThere » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:58 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:48 pm
I think the OP has a point and based on the lack of game time these players have seen this season I wouldn't be surprised if VK looks to loan them out and try to offload in the summer
We could pay off their wages and let them go on a free transfer, saving some space on the bench.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by tiger76 » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:19 pm

They'll get their chance over the next few months no doubt, and as already mentioned above both are returning from long term injuries.

I certainly wouldn't have thrown either on against Birmingham given how the rash tackles were flying in.

Both got a few minutes towards the end of the Boro game, and Churlinov got nearly 30 mins at OT, while Twine got on for the last 10.

No point rushing players back when we don't need to, and it's a rare luxury we should be pleased about.
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by quoonbeatz » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:22 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:18 pm
It's hard to find anything to whinge about at the minute, but this is my only gripe atm.
Maybe don't look for things to whinge about *wink emoji*

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:27 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:36 pm
Not dropping anyone, just need minutes at the end of games. Tricky though
I hung up me boots years ago so don’t drag me into it. I’m happy to leave it to VK.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by ecc » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:37 pm

Don't worry. The Boss has got it all sorted. Both Scott and Darko, injuries permitting, will be well involved.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by KRBFC » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:38 pm

Churlinov looks another really exciting player to me, shame he missed that chance at WBA then got injured. Zaroury has took that spot and nailed it in his absence.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Bosscat » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:42 pm

ecc wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:37 pm
Don't worry. The Boss has got it all sorted. Both Scott and Darko, injuries permitting, will be well involved.
Wow I've got it all sorted 😁 will pass it over to VK 👍

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by ervi34 » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:59 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:48 pm
I think the OP has a point and based on the lack of game time these players have seen this season I wouldn't be surprised if VK looks to loan them out and try to offload in the summer
I really don't understand your point. They were both out for a long period of time, Churlinov even missed the pre-season with us. At the moment, they're down the pecking order because Benson, Tella and Zaroury are having a brilliant season. They will get their chances soon.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Bigvince » Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:05 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:48 pm
I think the OP has a point and based on the lack of game time these players have seen this season I wouldn't be surprised if VK looks to loan them out and try to offload in the summer
Pretty poor cast that, but still managed to catch one😂

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:11 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:05 pm
Pretty poor cast that, but still managed to catch one😂
I thought it was pretty obvious I was merely poking fun at the OPs opening gambit but obviously not :lol:
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Andreshotboots » Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:12 pm

Kompany out...he's clueless 🤣

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by HiThere » Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:14 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:05 pm
Pretty poor cast that, but still managed to catch one😂
He certainly didn't catch me, I was merely carrying it on, expecting somebody to take it seriously.

Edit: I've now spotted the poster I think you are referring to.
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:37 pm

DCWat wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:51 pm
Some take longer to bed in. Throw into the mix; how well we have been doing, the form of others and the injuries that they have both experienced, you’ll be somewhere near as to why we’ve not seen much of either, so far (you can add McNally and Egan-Reilly to the list, too).

I think it’s been pretty remarkable just how well the majority have hit the ground running - there were bound to be a few that had to bide their time.

I do think we will start to see both getting more minutes in the coming months - let’s just give them time and trust in Kompany to do the right thing for them and the team.
They should still get a chance.

Just unfortunately the two players in there position are arguably our best players this season.
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by MDWat » Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:47 pm

Chance for one of them…
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by burnley007 » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:42 pm

Churlinov. Oh Dear. Looks so lost.

Churlinoff please

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Lew200100 » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:45 pm

It doesn’t look like he wants it or he isn’t fit enough or good enough. Maybe what he needs 45 minutes in a competitive match but I’d take him off as he looks tired.
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by dougcollins » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:49 pm

I don't think he's good enough. Should gave won the game for us at West Brom (twice) and I don't think it's any accident he's been rested since.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Stevie Morgan » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:59 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:49 pm
I don't think he's good enough. Should gave won the game for us at West Brom (twice) and I don't think it's any accident he's been rested since.
He's been injured ffs doug

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by jdrobbo » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:07 pm

Thought he made intelligent runs, with excellent movement. Carried the ball well and offered a threat, whilst looking a little rusty (caught offside a few times). If you can’t see a player with bags of potential here, we might as well give up. He’s played a few minutes vs everyone else who have played over half a season…and he’s had a big injury. I mean, come on….
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by RVclaret » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:17 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:49 pm
I don't think he's good enough. Should gave won the game for us at West Brom (twice) and I don't think it's any accident he's been rested since.
What a ridiculous comment :lol:

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:20 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:17 pm
What a ridiculous comment :lol:
Apologies, I logged into the wrong account before posting this :(
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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:46 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:07 pm
Thought he made intelligent runs, with excellent movement. Carried the ball well and offered a threat, whilst looking a little rusty (caught offside a few times). If you can’t see a player with bags of potential here, we might as well give up. He’s played a few minutes vs everyone else who have played over half a season…and he’s had a big injury. I mean, come on….
Willing to give him time as there is something there. The only issue he has is there is at least two better players in his position. His game time will be low

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by KlyBfc » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:06 pm

Needs to be given time due to how long he’s had out. As pointed out above there were glimpses of what we can expect. You then need to consider the impact Anas had when he came in. We know he’s brilliant but he offered little because like first half we struggled to get the ball out to the wide man in the left with any quality.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by jedi_master » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:09 pm

The right back/right side centre back looked after Churlinov and Zaroury. Sometimes you have to credit the defender. Anass got very little change out of him too. Can be no judgments made in a game where the opposition were trying to stifle us by being aggressive and in our face, it just didn’t suit our ball players really.

Benny had their left hand side struggling though.

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Re: Twine & Churlinov

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:12 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:09 pm
The right back/right side centre back looked after Churlinov and Zaroury. Sometimes you have to credit the defender. Anass got very little change out of him too. Can be no judgments made in a game where the opposition were trying to stifle us by being aggressive and in our face, it just didn’t suit our ball players really.

Clarke (Arsenal loanee) had a very good game, defensively.
Noted that Zaroury did little better than Churlinov.

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