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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:46 pm

DCWat wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:34 pm
Some pretty positive comments on the Forest forum about Surridge.

https://www.forestforum.co.uk/index.php ... 59/page-27
Very positive

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:57 pm

If surridge was to come in and have same record as last season 7 in 17 it would make a good signing

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by agreenwood » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:05 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:28 pm
Just got a text of a mate to say we’ve been linked with combative centre forward Billy Whitehurst. Not sure if he fits our profile but in VK we trust. Could suggest that Barnes is off though.
Yeah, but Newcastleclaret watched old VHS videos of him and, even tho his mum taped Crossroads over some of them, he reckons he looks ****.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:16 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:05 pm
Yeah, but Newcastleclaret watched old VHS videos of him and, even tho his mum taped Crossroads over some of them, he reckons he looks ****.
I’m sure some on this board would find a way to make him out to a be a good signing.

Surridge could turn out to be alright. I was hoping for someone like Dennis (Forrest trying to shift him)

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:18 pm

Some interesting post-match comments from VK today re the transfer window and our loan players. Something along the lines of we need to look at the bigger picture because we have 5 loan players....

Perhaps suggesting we're trying to tie up a deal or two for our loan players?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:22 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:16 pm
I’m sure some on this board would find a way to make him out to a be a good signing.

Surridge could turn out to be alright. I was hoping for someone like Dennis (Forrest trying to shift him)
Can’t play for 3 clubs in a season.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:24 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:18 pm
Some interesting post-match comments from VK today re the transfer window and our loan players. Something along the lines of we need to look at the bigger picture because we have 5 loan players....

Perhaps suggesting we're trying to tie up a deal or two for our loan players?
Or one or two of them are going back

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:26 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:24 pm
Or one or two of them are going back
Hopefully it’s 2 of them being tied down on perms

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:34 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:22 pm
Can’t play for 3 clubs in a season.
You can if Dennis goes abroad

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by colne-claret » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:47 pm

Not a rumour but Ilias Chair at QPR looks like he’d be a great fit for us. Looks a great little player.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:49 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:47 pm
Not a rumour but Ilias Chair at QPR looks like he’d be a great fit for us. Looks a great little player.
He’d be a good shout if we go up, won’t be cheap

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:52 pm

Not sure about the Surridge link, but Chair might have legs...
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:53 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:47 pm
Not a rumour but Ilias Chair at QPR looks like he’d be a great fit for us. Looks a great little player.
Could not agree more. Every time I have seen him he’s excellent

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by jedi_master » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:58 pm

Not sure Chair is fast or strong enough for the PL, would get bullied in my opinion. Excellent little footballer at this level undoubtedly.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by andyh » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:59 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:52 pm
Not sure about the Surridge link, but Chair might have legs...
Might need to table a bid soon.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Claret Toni » Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:03 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:52 pm
Not sure about the Surridge link, but Chair might have legs...
Could help to put a trophy in the cabinet

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:33 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:52 pm
Not sure about the Surridge link, but Chair might have legs...
A signing that would get Turf Moor rocking

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:39 pm

A signing like that would guarantee us a seat at the top table

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:19 pm

Shouldn’t judge surridge on his record, it’s all about players playing with confidence and feeling wanted, look at akpom at Boro 9 goals in 10 games in carrick, he was nearly sold in the summer
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Lubanski » Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:29 pm

Ilia's could sit in behind a striker

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:32 pm

Lubanski wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:29 pm
Ilia's could sit in behind a striker
Awful Dad jokes aside, he’s played LW every time I’ve seen him this season but to your point, I always thought he played a 10 role behind the striker, or have I got that wrong?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:33 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:32 pm
Awful Dad jokes aside, he’s played LW every time I’ve seen him this season but to your point, I always thought he played a 10 role behind the striker, or have I got that wrong?
Pretty sure Willock has been playing off the left for the last two seasons with Chair as a ten.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by chekhov » Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:01 am

No-one talking about Obafemi anymore? Not in the Swansea squad today and looks to be heading for the exit.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by martin_p » Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:26 am

Heard a rumour about interest in Chair but I’ve been asked to sit on it so will say no more.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:37 am

McNally linked with Sheff Wed loan

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Post by roperclaret » Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:09 am

My mate runs the Forest fanzine. I messaged saying we were in for Surridge and what did he think.

‘No. F*** off. Leave him alone’

They like him.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by superdimitri » Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:14 am

He played well for Bournemouth against us in the cup. He also scored for them in the cup vs Man City.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Quicknick » Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:25 am

I wonder if there's something in the Surridge rumour.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:24 am

I’m seeing a lot of positive comments about Surridge from Forest fans . If he’s one of two then could be a good start

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Post by Coeus » Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:31 am

martin_p wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:26 am
Heard a rumour about interest in Chair but I’ve been asked to sit on it so will say no more.
Think I heard the same rumour and that we are also after his two brothers. Three Chairs for BFC, hip hip…..

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Guller Bull » Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:41 am

These rumours have sprung up quite sedan. I mean do we need him? Sofa so good and all that.

I suppose it will cushion the blow if Barnesey goes. I hope nobody will try to chaise Long out of the door though.
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:13 am

Lads, will you at least try and make puns for Sturridge, rather than someone who (it appears) is only linked because its a piece of p**s to make puns out off

Thank god there isn't a player called Frank Boobs (or similar) or you lot would completely lose your s**t
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:16 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:13 am
Lads, will you at least try and make puns for Sturridge, rather than someone who (it appears) is only linked because its a piece of p**s to make puns out off

Thank god there isn't a player called Frank Boobs (or similar) or you lot would completely lose your s**t
I think we can nip that one in the bud straight away...
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Guller Bull » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:17 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:13 am
Lads, will you at least try and make puns for Sturridge, rather than someone who (it appears) is only linked because its a piece of p**s to make puns out off

Thank god there isn't a player called Frank Boobs (or similar) or you lot would completely lose your s**t
You are off your tits with made up stories like that!

I was hoping to end it with getting them all in at once. :)
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by chekhov » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:19 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:13 am
Lads, will you at least try and make puns for Sturridge, rather than someone who (it appears) is only linked because its a piece of p**s to make puns out off

Thank god there isn't a player called Frank Boobs (or similar) or you lot would completely lose your s**t
We did once have a player called Mickey Mellons.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:22 am

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:18 pm
Some interesting post-match comments from VK today re the transfer window and our loan players. Something along the lines of we need to look at the bigger picture because we have 5 loan players....

Perhaps suggesting we're trying to tie up a deal or two for our loan players?
We are certainly trying to make Maatsen permanent. Whether it gets done is another matter.

I presume we would try for all the starting loans, but their clubs will want top dollar after being successful.

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Post by Guller Bull » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:29 am

You would think that if deals can be done that are realistic for the loanees that are established then it would be sense to push for them given their performances and future values as (probable) regular premier league performers.

THB - circa £5 mill
Maatsen - circa £5 mill
Tella - circa £4 mill
Bayer - circa £3 mill

All guesswork and I am sure that a few of you will think I am way off with those figures

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:31 am

Guller Bull wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:29 am
You would think that if deals can be done that are realistic for the loanees that are established then it would be sense to push for them given their performances and future values as (probable) regular premier league performers.

THB - circa £5 mill
Maatsen - circa £5 mill
Tella - circa £4 mill
Bayer - circa £3 mill

All guesswork and I am sure that a few of you will think I am way off with those figures
Probably double if not treble all of those figures

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:32 am

Guller Bull wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:29 am
You would think that if deals can be done that are realistic for the loanees that are established then it would be sense to push for them given their performances and future values as (probable) regular premier league performers.

THB - circa £5 mill
Maatsen - circa £5 mill
Tella - circa £4 mill
Bayer - circa £3 mill

All guesswork and I am sure that a few of you will think I am way off with those figures
Gullerbull them predictions have got to be wrong you can’t even sign league 1 players for that kind of money. More realistic figures below.

THB 15-20m
Maatsen 10-15m
Tella 10-15m
Beyer - 10m

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Post by jedi_master » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:33 am

I suspect any of these (bar perhaps Beyer) would be heavily incentivised on success with us, as well as buy back clauses being inserted by Chelsea and City. I’d guess at something like:

Maatsen - £8m
THB - £15m
Tella - £8m
Beyer - £8m
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Post by Guller Bull » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:36 am

I suppose it depends on clauses inserted I.e first option on buy back etc.

The top players we bought from league one last summer were under five mill.

The loanees are relatively untried at top level.

Like I said, just guessing but probably somewhere between the two

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:44 am

Also you have to consider whether they actually want to stay

I think Tella is the only one who would 100% say he wants to stay, but the other three could all make decisions that they could get better deals at better clubs in the summer (especially if they continue at their current progress levels)

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:45 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:44 am
Also you have to consider whether they actually want to stay

I think Tella is the only one who would 100% say he wants to stay, but the other three could all make decisions that they could get better deals at better clubs in the summer (especially if they continue at their current progress levels)
Agree.

Forest’s standout loanee from last season was James Garner and as such attracted interest from around 4/5 clubs.

He ended up going to Everton for 15m.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Guller Bull » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:48 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:44 am
Also you have to consider whether they actually want to stay

I think Tella is the only one who would 100% say he wants to stay, but the other three could all make decisions that they could get better deals at better clubs in the summer (especially if they continue at their current progress levels)

All ifs and buts but on the flip side the positives (ie pretty much guaranteed consistent Premiership football for the first time in their careers with a gelled squad on a journey together) might outweigh the negatives (unsurity of regular starts)

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by jedi_master » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:49 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:44 am
Also you have to consider whether they actually want to stay

I think Tella is the only one who would 100% say he wants to stay, but the other three could all make decisions that they could get better deals at better clubs in the summer (especially if they continue at their current progress levels)
Beyer seems to have flown under the radar, I think (assuming we go up) he will certainly sign. Maatsen has done brilliantly for us but I think his defensive side will need a lot of work for the big league, that's a gamble we can take but I am not sure a bigger club would take that risk on board or see him as a starter just yet (we would).

THB though, fully agree with you. I can see City loaning him out again next season but they will want him to continue to be in a high possession team that dominates the ball and plays on the front foot. Whilst that might be our aspiration, it's a different kettle of fish when we go up. City might fancy moving him for his development to a Brighton etc.

Tella I agree with you too - possibly a very simple transfer should Southampton go down, and I think they will.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:56 am

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:49 am
Beyer seems to have flown under the radar, I think (assuming we go up) he will certainly sign. Maatsen has done brilliantly for us but I think his defensive side will need a lot of work for the big league, that's a gamble we can take but I am not sure a bigger club would take that risk on board or see him as a starter just yet (we would).

THB though, fully agree with you. I can see City loaning him out again next season but they will want him to continue to be in a high possession team that dominates the ball and plays on the front foot. Whilst that might be our aspiration, it's a different kettle of fish when we go up. City might fancy moving him for his development to a Brighton etc.

Tella I agree with you too - possibly a very simple transfer should Southampton go down, and I think they will.
I think we are nailed on to get THB on loan again if we go up tbh

If we want him of course

Beyer would have to want to come on a permanent and I'm not surprised there are a lot of rumours flying around that we are trying to do that now

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Duffer_ » Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:01 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:44 am
Also you have to consider whether they actually want to stay

I think Tella is the only one who would 100% say he wants to stay, but the other three could all make decisions that they could get better deals at better clubs in the summer (especially if they continue at their current progress levels)
"Better" clubs? Better...clubs??!! Come on now.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:05 am

Duffer_ wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:01 am
"Better" clubs? Better...clubs??!! Come on now.
*better as in much more money

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Duffer_ » Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:11 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:05 am
*better as in much more money
Ahhh, you mean richer. Why didn't you say that? :D
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:21 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:56 am
I think we are nailed on to get THB on loan again if we go up tbh

If we want him of course

Beyer would have to want to come on a permanent and I'm not surprised there are a lot of rumours flying around that we are trying to do that now
I can’t see THB making it at City. Not in the short term anyway, and his contract expires in 2024.

I can see another loan being an option (given the expiry) but more broadly I think we’ll see us reducing our reliance on loans if we made the Prem.

I’d like to see us do a decent and fair deal with City, whereby they get a higher fee if he keeps us up, a sell on and first refusal on any sale. That seems reasonable, especially when otherwise he could leave for nothing the following summer.

As I’ve said before though, it all depends how much he wants to be here and all the signs are that he’s loving it.

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