Everton - Moshiri Vs the fans

[GodIsADeeJay81]

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The fans are planning a sit in protest after this weekends game.

They're accusing the board of being the weakest in the PL, of gross misconduct, an inability to control the owner and his spending etc.

https://twitter.com/alanstubbs_6/status ... tMDZw&s=19

Even Alan Stubbs is getting involved.

Moshiri has been on Talksport this morning and stated he's put his money where his mouth is etc, he sounded slightly unhinged tbh

[KRBFC]

I feel for Moshiri here, he's invested £500m+ into Everton and tried his very best to progress the club on and off the field.

Normally fans are moaning at owners for lack of investment/ambition, here it's fans whining at failure.

Ultimately Moshiri has hired and trusted the wrong football people who have spunked his money up the wall year on year, Marcel Brands etc.

[BurnleyFC]

Everton fans are brain dead.

You can tell that when they start with their ‘sack the board’ chants instead of rightly venting their anger towards Lampard who’s doing a dreadful job.

[Tricky Trevor]

They’ll get Moyes back if Hammers bin him.

[Quickenthetempo]

I feel for Moshiri here, he's invested £500m+ into Everton and tried his very best to progress the club on and off the field.

Normally fans are moaning at owners for lack of investment/ambition, here it's fans whining at failure.

Ultimately Moshiri has hired and trusted the wrong football people who have spunked his money up the wall year on year, Marcel Brands etc.

He has spent all that money and made the club worse though, the club is loaded with dross on very high wages.

Apparently the board had to take action and forced Moshiri to stop signing players, his agent mates wanted him too and let the people in them jobs make the decisions.

The best thing he can do is deliver the new stadium and get out of football.

[clarethomer]

He has put his money where his mouth is but it's got to translate to success on the pitch. His money has been wasted.

They are in my bottom 3 come the end of the season unless they make a change and support a new manager who can make them work.

Whether board governance is the driver of this underperformance or because the manager has lost the players or the players have lost the crowd is one for others to debate.

[Billyblah]

He refers to "stability being the key to progression" but this is a club who have gone through seven managers in five years, each having been allowed to throw huge piles of money into attempts at team building . Incredible!

[Chester Perry]

When you look into this, the protest is much more about the executive, than the manager or even the Sporting Director - they feel that previous incumbents, particularly Marcel Brands were often undermined.

there is an awful lot of issues that have been building up for over a decade now and somehow (a reportedly quite ill) Bill Kenwright has managed to sail serenely above it all. there is a feeling Kenwright is hanging on so he can be the Chairman in place for the new stadium (which has been the story of his tenure), but there are as many questions over the effectiveness of CEO Denise Barrett-Baxendale who was promoted from ruing their community arm (I pointed out such concerns when Mike Garlick did a similar trick in promoting Neil Hart).

Ultimately there are too many stories of Moshri ignoring the views of his executives (most notably Brands) and often doing whatever Usmanov suggested to him.

Oh - and besides the protests on Saturday there will be a return of the nonsense before the games as the fans welcome the team to Goodison - flares and all you would expect

[claretonthecoast1882]

I do hope Everton are 4-0 nil after 20 minutes on Saturday.

"You coming the pub laa ? "

"No I am staying in my seat to protest at full time that we are ****"

[bobinho]

Deserve everything they get.

They invest upwards of £100m every year, that’s EVERY year, give or take, and STILL they are shite. Yet STILL they believe they have a god given right to be top 6 or better. Talk about deluded…

Rotten from the boardroom to the Gwladys.

[tiger76]

Let's be real here if Everton were doing well their fans wouldn't be moaning about the £100's of millions they've been spending.

The club is in a right mess on and off the pitch mind you, and relegation has the potential for them to be the next Sunderland.

Fine having a shiny new stadium, but if Everton are struggling in the Championship it'll be half empty.

Staggering that they've got into such dire straits as under Moyes they were always run sensibly, and generally had a good transfer policy, now I'm baffled as to what their recruitment team are supposed to be identifying, they got £60m for Richarlison from Spurs and yet again they've wasted it on poor signings who will be on big bucks and have little or no resale value that I can detect.

[Chester Perry]

Let's be real here if Everton were doing well their fans wouldn't be moaning about the £100's of millions they've been spending.

The club is in a right mess on and off the pitch mind you, and relegation has the potential for them to be the next Sunderland.

Fine having a shiny new stadium, but if Everton are struggling in the Championship it'll be half empty.

Staggering that they've got into such dire straits as under Moyes they were always run sensibly, and generally had a good transfer policy, now I'm baffled as to what their recruitment team are supposed to be identifying, they got £60m for Richarlison from Spurs and yet again they've wasted it on poor signings who will be on big bucks and have little or no resale value that I can detect.

Richarlison was sold on the last day of the financial year - to pay for the previous January transfer window activity and theoretically stay inside FFP

the board have held off signing new deals for Gordon, Iwobi and Pickford to save money though everyone else including players have signed them off

any business this window will likely rely on a similar sale in the summer

[TheFamilyCat]

Exhibit A: Andros Townsend.

Unfortunately he chose to score his annual screamer against us though before disappearing again.

[Colburn_Claret]

A bit like Rovers, the fans don't appreciate someone pumping the money in, and keeping them afloat.
Just like Rovers, it doesn't matter how much money you pump in, if you don't know what you're doing with it.

[Chester Perry]

The fan groups have gone to great pains to stress that after the game today the protest will be vocal but must be non-agressive/violent - that has been the consistent message from the get-go

This is the Everton boards approach - are they are trying to incite something? or is someone not connected to proceedings doing the same?

Entire Everton board to miss Southampton game due to 'safety and security threat'
Key personnel told not to attend fixture after malicious and threatening correspondence received by the club
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[fatboy47]

Thankfully teams aren't yet able to field more than 11 players at a time.
It's all that's saving the game right now.

If the elite could buy the right to have more than 11 on the pitch at one time they'd have done it long ago.

[claretburns]

The fan groups have gone to great pains to stress that after the game today the protest will be vocal but must be non-agressive/violent - that has been the consistent message from the get-go

This is the Everton boards approach - are they are trying to incite something? or is someone not connected to proceedings doing the same?

Whilst the public aim of the fans group is pushing a peaceful/non-aggressive protest you never know if the club have received communication from some supporters threatening violent behaviour towards board members.

[claretburns]

Or I should add, maybe the police think if the fans know the board are not going to be there it might diffuse the planned protest.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

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[BurnleyFC]

Still want the board out rather than Lampard.

Thick as ****.

[redcloud203]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1614305882300633088

you have to love the sportsmanship of this lot - not

[Commy]

Love Southampton's response, 'Fireworks from the Saints.'

[TPClaret]

Videos going around on twitter of Everton fans confronting players leaving the ground and chasing their cars. Embarrassing. Will this really help to motivate the players? What will potential signings think watching those scenes. Hopefully they will get relegated. Horrible fans.

[beddie]

New Manager required who strings a few results together, calms things down. I can’t believe either that Lampards still got a job.

[Chester Perry]

Videos going around on twitter of Everton fans confronting players leaving the ground and chasing their cars. Embarrassing. Will this really help to motivate the players? What will potential signings think watching those scenes. Hopefully they will get relegated. Horrible fans.

some pretty startling stuff going on - saw one video of roadblocks and targeting Anthony Gordon by a group of young brats - how soon people forget, his contribution to the cause last season was immense - huge questions to be asked about player safety there and club policies

[tiger76]

New Manager required who strings a few results together, calms things down. I can’t believe either that Lampards still got a job.

What sensible manager would want to brave the Goodison bearpit right now knowing they'll likely be out the door in a few months anyway.

Toxic environment surrounding the whole club on and off the pitch.

[Tricky Trevor]

I wonder how this will affect them if proven.

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[claptrappers_union]

Videos going around on twitter of Everton fans confronting players leaving the ground and chasing their cars. Embarrassing. Will this really help to motivate the players? What will potential signings think watching those scenes. Hopefully they will get relegated. Horrible fans.

Disgraceful, I'd be on the phone with my agent and engineering a move out of there before the window shuts. As much as it's 'acceptable' to be criticised and verbally abused on the field, once a player is outside the 90 mins of the game and outside the stadium, they should be treated with decency and respect. I'd honestly say I wouldn't play for them anymore - I'd down tools. If I'm that **** as a player, the fans won't miss me anyway.

[bfcjg]

The Premier league bent over backwards to help them stay uplast season, they will do the same again.

[dsr]

There seems to be a perception in the press (some of it, anyway) that none of it is Lampard's fault. The Daily Telegraph said that perhaps staying up last season was the greatest achievement by any manager in the PL.

Really? With the amount Everton spend on wages and transfers, compared with Burnley's spending, and finishing just above Burnley is considered to be a great achievement? If expectations are as low as that, Lampard may be in a job for a while.

Hopefully!

[tiger76]

There seems to be a perception in the press (some of it, anyway) that none of it is Lampard's fault. The Daily Telegraph said that perhaps staying up last season was the greatest achievement by any manager in the PL.

Really? With the amount Everton spend on wages and transfers, compared with Burnley's spending, and finishing just above Burnley is considered to be a great achievement? If expectations are as low as that, Lampard may be in a job for a while.

Hopefully!

Bonkers if keeping Everton up with that squad is considered a great achievement, I'd say Burnley finishing 7th, or Leicester winning the league easily eclipse Everton staying up by the skin of their teeth given their available resources.

[tiger76]

The Premier league bent over backwards to help them stay uplast season, they will do the same again.

Cynical but probably contains an element of truth to it, I'd say Chelsea, Newcastle and Palace not turning up when they all visited Goodison aided their escape also.

Plus Richarlison not being suspended for the flare incident when he should have been.

Big difference this season is nobody has been cut adrift as Norwich & Watford were last season, so instead of only having to find one other team to finish above Everton might have to find 3.

[bfcjg]

It's the FFP assistance they got that really grated.

[Vegas Claret]

other than Bournemouth there are going to be some big teams dropping this season

[KRBFC]

There seems to be a perception in the press (some of it, anyway) that none of it is Lampard's fault. The Daily Telegraph said that perhaps staying up last season was the greatest achievement by any manager in the PL.

Really? With the amount Everton spend on wages and transfers, compared with Burnley's spending, and finishing just above Burnley is considered to be a great achievement? If expectations are as low as that, Lampard may be in a job for a while.

Hopefully!

Useless manager but he was a tremendous English player so will have certain media refusing to criticise him. Lampard sold Richarlison and spent the money on Mcneil and Maupay. Last season he brought in Dele Alli, Van De Beek and El Ghazi and barely used any of them.

[Tricky Trevor]

Useless manager but he was a tremendous English player so will have certain media refusing to criticise him. Lampard sold Richarlison and spent the money on Mcneil and Maupay. Last season he brought in Dele Alli, Van De Beek and El Ghazi and barely used any of them.

But at that madhouse did he bring them in or were they foisted on him?

[Jakubclaret]

Cynical but probably contains an element of truth to it, I'd say Chelsea, Newcastle and Palace not turning up when they all visited Goodison aided their escape also.

Plus Richarlison not being suspended for the flare incident when he should have been.

Big difference this season is nobody has been cut adrift as Norwich & Watford were last season, so instead of only having to find one other team to finish above Everton might have to find 3.

Palace did turn up at goodison they was actually 2 up at 1 point until everton came back the turning point was the milojevic substitution I think on 57 when everton had already equalised to make to 2-2 3 mins before his introduction, at that point the midfield was like a knife thru butter he's basically a passenger for them these days & they couldn't see the draw out with everton in the ascendancy.

[MancunianClaret]

I think Everton are nailed on to go down this season. They can't even get a striker in because of the toxic atmosphere.

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[Devils_Advocate]

I think Everton are nailed on to go down this season. They can't even get a striker in because of the toxic atmosphere.

I think the one thing in their favour that might save them is that they've got a decent manager who the players want to play for. Might not be enough but gives them a fighting chance.

[Jakubclaret]

I think Everton are nailed on to go down this season. They can't even get a striker in because of the toxic atmosphere.

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I think the fact that they don’t have a pot to p1ss in might be a factor in recruitment as well.

[MancunianClaret]

I think the fact that they don’t have a pot to p1ss in might be a factor in recruitment as well.

FFP presumably ties their hands

[MancunianClaret]

I think the one thing in their favour that might save them is that they've got a decent manager who the players want to play for. Might not be enough but gives them a fighting chance.

Not sure you know, they look despondent on the pitch. Fans giving the players grief during and after every game isn't helping either.

[HiThere]

I think Everton are nailed on to go down this season. They can't even get a striker in because of the toxic atmosphere.

When you look at clubs such as Everton, Wolves and West Ham in the mix for going down, the people who say (every season) that the Championship is stronger than the previous season, may be correct this time.

[Jakubclaret]

FFP presumably ties their hands

They certainly have to be careful with whatever business they do.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I think it's the PL or FA who have to approve all transfers at Everton, because they're so badly ran financially.

This is one reason why they're struggling to get people in, they can't just send in the paperwork and expect it to get approved as normal.
It's not quite an embargo, but its not far off.

[MancunianClaret]

They certainly have to be careful with whatever business they do.

Should have sold Gordon when they got daft offers in for him imo. Gone off the boil now.

[Jakubclaret]

Should have sold Gordon when they got daft offers in for him imo. Gone off the boil now.

Agree, sometimes I have a look on GOT & their fans all seem to think along the same lines as well, I can’t see that same offer coming back.