Muric

[Spijed]

You might but then again you've spent all this season looking for every negative you can find which is a 100% contradiction to the position you took previously you when you would actively argue against any criticism of the club and team.

No problem with a balanced view of things that are going well and things that could be improved but an obsessive focus on every little issue when we are romping the league and playing some of the best football a lot of us have ever seen Burnley play in our lifetimes seems a bit sad to me

[Leyland Claret]

I don’t seem to recall ever seeing a keeper using an outside of the foot sliced ball out from the back but last night Muric did it twice! He’s obviously doesn’t command the box like Pope used to but the way he plays in this team is a major cog in a very well oiled machine. He is high risk but that is the way he is told to play and it’s not gone too badly so far this season, eh?

[Longsider]

Do you really think he would be playing for us if he was flawless

This is it in a nutshell. We have a very influential player in the style and system we play.

[boatshed bill]

No Pope came a long way and jumped over a group of players and it was Pope who landed on one of those players (who had stood still and not made any movement towards Pope) banging the ball against him and losing control of it. Last night it was the West Brom player who moved towards and knocked into Muric when Muric was easily collecting the ball.

The similarity I am using is that both appeared to have the ball and both basically mishandled under pressure. That "goal" could easily have stood, it's all a matter of how the ref interprets it.

[Devils_Advocate]

The similarity I am using is that both appeared to have the ball and both basically mishandled under pressure. That "goal" could easily have stood, it's all a matter of how the ref interprets it.

They were very different though. It wasn't pressure in either incident that caused them to drop the ball, it was the keepers coming into contact with an opposition player. The difference was it was Pope's own fault he banged into the Newcastle player whereas last night the West Brom player banged into Muric and was nowhere near challenging for the ball.

I thought the decision was a bit soft last night and we'd got away with it but on looking at the replay the West Brom player bangs into Muric as he's collecting the ball which causes him to drop it. As Spijed said Muric could maybe be a bit stronger in those kind of scenarios but nevertheless its a clear foul

[claretspice]

Sorry but I disagree about their disallowed goal. Can only assume that you haven’t seen a replay? It definitely can’t be described as a barge- and the West Brom players did appeal.

Muric actually jumps into their player who was jumping straight up, with eyes only on the ball, catches it then fumbles it into the net.

Not this game, as it works against us as well- when a keeper challenges for the ball, any kind of contact (even if they themselves instigate it) and they get the foul which is wrong in my opinion.

Very much seen a replay - the one from the Bob Lord side is clearest - the attacker leads with his arm/elbow and that makes contact with Muric's neck. That's what causes Muric to lose control of the ball. It's then in two hands when it bounces clear on second contact.

When you make contact like that before going in fit the header, it's a foul anywhere on the pitch. That's what I meant by a barge. It's clear and it's not even a function of keepers being protected.

[Walkerpool]

Absolutely love Muric

[MDWat]

Having seen the replay of the disallowed goal, I’ve changed my view. It’s a foul, fair enough.

Perhaps a touch harsh from me then. Still want more in terms of commanding his box, but happy to hold my hands up that my view from the Bob Lord must have been impeded by a pillar!

[Carport]

Could you explain? I didn’t think he did anything wrong, keeping wise tonight. No chance with the goal. Made a good save too.

Love his distribution but I don’t understand why he didn’t come and punch the ball to prevent their goal. He is 6’5” so he only has to jump a little to take it off the top of the WBA player’s head.

[summitclaret]

He absolutely has to come for balls landing in the six yard box, especially with our lack of height everywhere else. Having said that, apart from THB, he's the best passer in the team.

[boatshed bill]

He absolutely has to come for balls landing in the six yard box, especially with our lack of height everywhere else. Having said that, apart from THB, he's the best passer in the team.

That cross for the goal should have been dealt with before it got anywhere near Muric.
Funny how WBA "rehearsed" the whole move on the prior corner, including the push

[IanMcL]

As a keeper, he is a great sweeper.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

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He absolutely has to come for balls landing in the six yard box, especially with our lack of height everywhere else. Having said that, apart from THB, he's the best passer in the team.
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No he doesn't, he has to trust his defenders will deal with them.

The stats show most keepers claim about 20% of all crosses into their areas.

[helmclaret]

I thought we'd concede far, far more than we have done, which is absolutely brilliant.

I haven't got a clue how it's going to work out when we start playing better opposition on a weekly basis though.

He’s a very young goalkeeper, who is performing to a very high level. He’s not perfect but it’s felt to me all season that certain people want him to fail.

The days are gone when keepers clatter people (including their own) to claim a ball. Watch some
Premier League games this weekend and tell me apart from Pope who is good with high balls and dominating their area?

Muric is a special talent and people need to relax a bit and try to enjoy what he brings to the team.

[taio]

No he doesn't, he has to trust his defenders will deal with them.

The stats show most keepers claim about 20% of all crosses into their areas.

It's been Muric's weakness

[GodIsADeeJay81]

It's been Muric's weakness

Would you rather he came, flapped and missed them instead?

He has to trust his defenders and they have to deal with them, that's their job

[Bosscat]

Muric is match on match improving ... Look at the league position ... if he was as **** as some on here say he is we would not be where we are ...

[OffTheBar]

Having seen the replay of the disallowed goal, I’ve changed my view. It’s a foul, fair enough.

Perhaps a touch harsh from me then. Still want more in terms of commanding his box, but happy to hold my hands up that my view from the Bob Lord must have been impeded by a pillar!

Fair play. Maybe keep the blanket away from your eyes

[taio]

Would you rather he came, flapped and missed them instead?

He has to trust his defenders and they have to deal with them, that's their job

It's still his main improvement area. Most people can see that regardless of what the stats you quote say. And by the way he has flapped and missed them. That's the reality. He's been good this season - and was very good last night - but there's nothing wrong with people talking talking about where he can get better.

[boatshed bill]

It's still his main improvement area. Most people can see that regardless of what the stats you quote say. And by the way he has flapped and missed them. That's the reality. He's been good this season - and was very good last night - but there's nothing wrong with people talking talking about where he can get better.

This is of course correct.
But some of us see an agenda where AM is concerned.
Let's face it, if anyone wanted to they could point to areas which need improving all over the pitch.
Look at some of the keepers who have played against us, I don't recall any being particularly stand-out better than Muric.

[taio]

This is of course correct.
But some of us see an agenda where AM is concerned.
Let's face it, if anyone wanted to they could point to areas which need improving all over the pitch.
Look at some of the keepers who have played against us, I don't recall any being particularly stand-out better than Muric.

I don't know about others but I have no agenda.

Of course all players have areas that can be improved but this thread is about Muric.

I also don't see any better keepers right now in this league.

[HistoricalClaret]

This is of course correct.
But some of us see an agenda where AM is concerned.
Let's face it, if anyone wanted to they could point to areas which need improving all over the pitch.
Look at some of the keepers who have played against us, I don't recall any being particularly stand-out better than Muric.

can we also note that Teemu Pukki one of the best strikers in the league stated the best keeper he has played against in the league was "The Burnley Keeper, Muric" and he referenced murics late wonder save in that norwich game as one of the reasons why.

[taio]

can we also note that Teemu Pukki one of the best strikers in the league stated the best keeper he has played against in the league was "The Burnley Keeper, Muric" and he referenced murics late wonder save in that norwich game as one of the reasons why.

One of Muric's best games for us against Norwich. Excellent match winning save and him and Cork we our best players that game. So no surprise he said that because presumably he was judging on that game. But from a broader viewpoint I haven't seen better in this league.

[Vegas Claret]

He can clearly improve but look how much he has in 6 months, I'll repeat what I said earlier - we will sell him for a lot of money in the future

[Clive 1960]

For me he as to command is six yard box a lot better than he does for a big guy he seems rooted to is line and our defence isn't the biggest so that's why you need him to take the pressure of from set pieces , he's still young and he will get better I hope because in the premiership you have to be on your toes.

[RVclaret]

https://twitter.com/kamhass_/status/161 ... xmR0CK4AjQ

Someone has made a highlights reel of his display the other night. Even better than I recall. Enjoy.

[NewClaret]

https://twitter.com/kamhass_/status/161 ... xmR0CK4AjQ

Someone has made a highlights reel of his display the other night. Even better than I recall. Enjoy.

Wonderous when you put it all together like that.

I do think that’s missing a great move in the corner first half though, which I thought was the best of the lot.

[ksrclaret]

https://twitter.com/kamhass_/status/161 ... xmR0CK4AjQ

Someone has made a highlights reel of his display the other night. Even better than I recall. Enjoy.

Some of those are absolutely outrageous. Incredible stuff.

[KefkaClaret]

That pass to Zaroury at 28 seconds is incredible.

[Ric_C]

That pass to Zaroury at 28 seconds is incredible.

World class that one.

95% pass completion apparently, with WBAs keeper having 54%

[helmclaret]

https://twitter.com/kamhass_/status/161 ... xmR0CK4AjQ

Someone has made a highlights reel of his display the other night. Even better than I recall. Enjoy.

He’s a special player for sure.

World class that.

[Bordeauxclaret]

He really is excellent with the ball at his feet.

[Conroysleftfoot]

https://twitter.com/kamhass_/status/161 ... xmR0CK4AjQ

Someone has made a highlights reel of his display the other night. Even better than I recall. Enjoy.

Superb

[Croydon Claret]

Muric has way more positives than negatives.

We couldn't play the way we do without him. And playing the way we do has made us the top scoring team in all professional divisions and given us an 18 point gap

I'll forgive his odd mistake

[Papabendi]

What’s notable is how advanced he is on the pitch second half. We were essentially playing with 11 outfield players at times meaning we had an extra outfield player.

[BobbyBoucher]

I don’t know if it has already been mentioned but on one of the West Brom boards one of my favourite quotes was something like “when you play franz beckenbauer in the nets then you know you are on another level”

[Leisure]

Got away with murder on the disallowed goal. I need to see the first one back but the header was 6 yards out. Where is he?

His distribution is mega, a huge part of how we play, but as a general goalkeeper he’s very hit and miss.

Any comments on Ramsdale trying to get to a cross into the 6 yard box?

[Greenmile]

What’s notable is how advanced he is on the pitch second half. We were essentially playing with 11 outfield players at times meaning we had an extra outfield player.

Yep. Loved it when he received a short pass in the opposition half. How often do you see that from a ‘keeper?