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Watford

Post by RVclaret » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:26 pm

Another one bites the dust…

Bilic set to be sacked. Wilder favourite to replace him.

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Re: Watford

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:29 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:26 pm
Another one bites the dust…

Bilic set to be sacked. Wilder favourite to replace him.
Basketcase of a club...Bilic is a good man.
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Re: Watford

Post by Bosscat » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:30 pm

The ever revolving door of Watford ... joke of a club

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Re: Watford

Post by Flying Without Ings » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:36 pm

Another Watford manager who wasn’t afforded time to implement his own ideas, get his own players in etc. although a few months’ work in return for a huge pay off will make it attractive for some managers.

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Re: Watford

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:39 pm

It’s beyond a joke and Wilder must be desperate to go in there

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Re: Watford

Post by Middle-agedClaret » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:40 pm

Where is this reported?

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Re: Watford

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:41 pm

Might as well stick £20 on Wilder to be the next manager in the Championship to be sacked

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Re: Watford

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:42 pm

Hope Wilder gets the Watford gig....then I won't have to listen to him trying to commentate for Sky....which is painful.
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Re: Watford

Post by 4midable » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:50 pm

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Re: Watford

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:52 pm

They're no better off for going through so many managers than we were for having Dyche for so long.

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Re: Watford

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:53 pm

Middle-agedClaret wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:40 pm
Where is this reported?
Sky Sports have got it on but Watford often don’t announce a sacking until the next one has been confirmed
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Re: Watford

Post by Bosscat » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:53 pm

Middle-agedClaret wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:40 pm
Where is this reported?
https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport ... ix-months/

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Re: Watford

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Re: Watford

Post by dsr » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:56 pm

They say Wilder has got a "short term" deal. So just like every other manager they've ever had.
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Re: Watford

Post by DCWat » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:57 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:53 pm
Sky Sports have got it on but Watford often don’t announce a sacking until the next one has been confirmed
I’m assuming you mean until the next manager has been confirmed and not the next sacking. With Watford, it could be the latter!

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Re: Watford

Post by RVclaret » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:00 pm

Bilic is a sound guy but has been pretty disappointing there overall. They have the largest wage bill in the league and rejected offers for Sarr/Pedro for over 45m combined in the summer. Performances have been pretty poor from what I’ve seen of them too. 9th in the league with 1 win in the last 8.

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Re: Watford

Post by Hibsclaret » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:05 pm

One thing that club should be good at is the media process for managerial change. They should play the magic roundabout theme to announce the new man.

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Re: Watford

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:07 pm

FC Nutjob of Watford

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Re: Watford

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Re: Watford

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:08 pm

As some poster said Another One Bites the Dust should be their run on tune
Far more appropriate than Z Cars
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Re: Watford

Post by Redbeard » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:09 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:57 pm
I’m assuming you mean until the next manager has been confirmed and not the next sacking.
I thought he meant the next sacking. Hence the 'like'! :lol:
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Re: Watford

Post by NickBFC » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:16 pm

dsr wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:56 pm
They say Wilder has got a "short term" deal. So just like every other manager they've ever had.
Proportionally I would imagine a deal to the end of the season but sacked before tomorrow :lol:

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Re: Watford

Post by beddie » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:30 pm

Nice pay day if you can get it.He’ll be sacked either before or at the seasons end.

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Re: Watford

Post by Firthy » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:36 pm

Obviously impressed with Wilders record at Boro. If only they'd been quicker then they could have got old boy SD back.

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Re: Watford

Post by KRBFC » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:44 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:00 pm
Bilic is a sound guy but has been pretty disappointing there overall. They have the largest wage bill in the league and rejected offers for Sarr/Pedro for over 45m combined in the summer. Performances have been pretty poor from what I’ve seen of them too. 9th in the league with 1 win in the last 8.
14th in the form table since the end of the World Cup, nowhere near good enough for the group of players available. He deserves the sack.

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Re: Watford

Post by IanMcL » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:45 pm

Underperformed

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Re: Watford

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:47 pm

I’m more disappointed in them for not keeping the fiddlers out of the top 6.
That squad should have done it easily but why do so many managers flop there?
Owner interference?

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Re: Watford

Post by warksclaret » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:50 pm

You have to question someone's mentality who takes that job. The job today is hard enough without looking over your shoulder after every game. I thought Rob Edwards was a great appointment and they sacked him when Watford were doing better than at present, earlier in the season. Would be great if Luton get to the play-offs and Watford dont

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Re: Watford

Post by AlargeClaret » Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:04 pm

Didn’t Hodgson say words to the effect of “ this has been the worst most chaotic experience at a club in my managerial history “

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Re: Watford

Post by nil_desperandum » Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:04 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:50 pm
You have to question someone's mentality who takes that job.
Really?
I would have thought that it was a really good earner. You work for just a few weeks and then get a massive payout.
(Ranieri being an obvious example)
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Re: Watford

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:15 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:04 pm
Really?
I would have thought that it was a really good earner. You work for just a few weeks and then get a massive payout.
(Ranieri being an obvious example)
Exactly this.
Wilder's in a win-win situation. If he does a job, fair play to him.
If he gets the bullet, he can just point to his long line of predecessors who shared the same fate and waltz off with his bank account considerably swelled.

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Re: Watford

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:19 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:47 pm
I’m more disappointed in them for not keeping the fiddlers out of the top 6.
That squad should have done it easily but why do so many managers flop there?
Owner interference?
They've no real cohesive transfer policy, no foundations to build upon, managers don't get time to implement anything etc.
The owners are the problem but hey ho

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Re: Watford

Post by dsr » Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:37 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:04 pm
Really?
I would have thought that it was a really good earner. You work for just a few weeks and then get a massive payout.
(Ranieri being an obvious example)
And it's not like being sacked from Watford is a black mark on your CV. (Taking the job in the first place might be a black mark, though!)

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Re: Watford

Post by Zom Zom » Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:39 pm

Watford FC should be sponsored by Next
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Re: Watford

Post by JimmyRobbo » Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:39 pm

I've thought about this for months.

I don't think you have to be desperate, as such. Does anyone think any worse of a manager that fails there? They take their payoff and move on to other jobs, it seems.

What definitely is worse in football is not being in a job for too long. Eventually, people forget you and your phone stops ringing. Lot's of clubs are run by interfering chairmen and DoF's. Modern managers all seem to have to be able to deal with it. Watford is a bit of an extreme case.

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Re: Watford

Post by Bigvince » Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:40 pm

Wilder could do ok, Watford look to have quite a easy run in.

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Re: Watford

Post by dougcollins » Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:50 pm

Has Wilder gone yet?
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Re: Watford

Post by Nonayforever » Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:03 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:04 pm
Really?
I would have thought that it was a really good earner. You work for just a few weeks and then get a massive payout.
(Ranieri being an obvious example)
I don't think that the sacked manager gets a good payday. From what I have heard their contract is result based. The season is divided into sections with each section having a pre determined points target. Failure to meet the agreed target means the bullet with no pay off.

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Re: Watford

Post by warksclaret » Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:16 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:03 pm
I don't think that the sacked manager gets a good payday. From what I have heard their contract is result based. The season is divided into sections with each section having a pre determined points target. Failure to meet the agreed target means the bullet with no pay off.
Yes that all makes sense and typical of a club with no long term plan. They do throw in a Timex watch once someone has done 12 months as a thank you
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Re: Watford

Post by Tribesmen » Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:46 pm

Nuthouse club

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Re: Watford

Post by tiger76 » Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:58 pm

Bonkers at Watford, how long do they give managers, sometimes it takes time to build a side.

Ranieri lasted 14 games.
Hodgson 18 games.
Edwards 11 games.
Bilic 25 games.

Where is the long-term vision, because they can't keep sacking managers can they, though given their recent track record I wouldn't be surprised.

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Re: Watford

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:07 pm

Bilic has had 7 club managerial posts and has been sacked from every one.
Just saying.

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Re: Watford

Post by Bosscat » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:12 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:07 pm
Bilic has had 7 club managerial posts and has been sacked from every one.
Just saying.
🤔

There could be a trend here 😉

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Re: Watford

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:14 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:40 pm
Wilder could do ok, Watford look to have quite a easy run in.
Hope so, could do with them passing the Bastards.

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Re: Watford

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:15 pm

Incidentally, Thursday will be exactly 20 years since that woeful display at Vicarage Road in the Cup quarter final.

Horrible day.

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Re: Watford

Post by tiger76 » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:23 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:15 pm
Incidentally, Thursday will be exactly 20 years since that woeful display at Vicarage Road in the Cup quarter final.

Horrible day.
Did you really have to remind us all of that day.

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Re: Watford

Post by Jimmymaccer » Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:10 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:15 pm
Incidentally, Thursday will be exactly 20 years since that woeful display at Vicarage Road in the Cup quarter final.

Horrible day.
And that day I was in Flaine skiing………………I’ll say no more than that was also a sh#t day for a host of other reasons and when the score came through that just about summed it up………

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Re: Watford

Post by Rammy1968 » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:21 am

Drove down in my old Renault Clio to that game with my old mate Dogcat, we packed their away end in anticipation of a good win and the team didn’t turn up. It felt like a long journey home that’s for sure UTC

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Re: Watford

Post by claptrappers_union » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:32 am

I don't understand the ethos behind it. It makes no sense to me in sacking managers within months. If I was Chris Wilder is be wanting a 3 year contract.

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Re: Watford

Post by Pickles » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:39 am

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:50 pm
You have to question someone's mentality who takes that job.
One of the best jobs around. A million or two for a few months work.

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