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by NewClaret » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:18 pm
Bruno great header 3-1
I just get the sense the United lads don’t like Weghorst and he’s trying desperately to be their mate

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by RVclaret » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:19 pm
taio wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:17 pm
The key attributes of a striker (although he's hardly a striker at United anyway)
Doing a job for what they need. Unless he starts scoring I doubt they sign him though. Hopefully someone in Germany will take him back cos despite him actually suiting our striker role I don’t think he suits our new team.
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by taio » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:24 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:19 pm
Doing a job for what they need. Unless he starts scoring I doubt they sign him though. Hopefully someone in Germany will take him back cos despite him actually suiting our striker role I don’t think he suits our new team.
Yes, can't see them signing him - looks out of place and not good enough for them.
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by NewClaret » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:39 pm
Weghorst did well there.
I think United will sign him. He’s starting a lot of games. ETH likes him. Even if they get a new first choice he’ll want cover and Weghorst will be cheap. But we shouldn’t get greedy with him.
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by Whitgord » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:42 pm
And he scores!
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by RVclaret » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:42 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:39 pm
Weghorst did well there.
I think United will sign him. He’s starting a lot of games. ETH likes him. Even if they get a new first choice he’ll want cover and Weghorst will be cheap. But we shouldn’t get greedy with him.
Oh I’d bite their hands off for 10m. Even a bit less.
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by IanMcL » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:42 pm
At last!
You can see the relief!
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by NewClaret » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:43 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:42 pm
Oh I’d bite their hands off for 10m. Even a bit less.
Not a penny less than £20m

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by Carwin261 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:43 pm
He’s hit the furking barn door.
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by Whitgord » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:43 pm
He didn’t hit it cleanly, even when it was a sitter

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by CombatClaret » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:47 pm
Teammates pat Weghorst on the head and promise to put his goal on the fridge door so everyone can see it.
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by Burnleyareback2 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:52 pm
I remember him being a Burnley fan favorite this time 12 months ago, there was even a song about us staying in the premier league due to him.
Amazing how quickly he turned to a player that most fans on here joke about.
I suspect that a condition of him signing for us would allow him to leave if upon relegation due to his World Cup prospects. Everything was agreed, he didn’t have to demand it.
Strange how much dislike there is for him.
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by NewClaret » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:54 pm
Would love this Pellestri chap on loan for the season as part of the Weghorst sale!
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by Carwin261 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:59 pm
Utd have just offered 6 Haffners pies ,and a dozen Benny,and hots payable over 3 yrs for WW,
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by Cooclaret » Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:04 pm
Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:52 pm
I remember him being a Burnley fan favorite this time 12 months ago, there was even a song about us staying in the premier league due to him.
Amazing how quickly he turned to a player that most fans on here joke about.
I suspect that a condition of him signing for us would allow him to leave if upon relegation due to his World Cup prospects. Everything was agreed, he didn’t have to demand it.
Strange how much dislike there is for him.
Idiot boo boys that think they know more about football than ETH and VK. They always need someone to knock down to make themselves feel better.
WW is a quality footballer and is one of the main reasons MU are riding high.
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by Shaggy » Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:08 pm
He’s done something lump of never will, score in European competition.
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by Elizabeth » Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:12 pm
Cooclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:04 pm
Idiot boo boys that think they know more about football than ETH and VK. They always need someone to knock down to make themselves feel better.
WW is a quality footballer and is one of the main reasons MU are riding high.
That is a wind up , right?
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by Spijed » Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:16 pm
Shaggy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:08 pm
He’s done something lump of never will, score in European competition.
Are you referring to Chris Wood?
The same Chris Wood that scored against Olympiacos?
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by Steve1956 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:44 pm
List of Shaggy's hates
1.Hamilton
2. Dyche
3. Wood
4. Weghorst
Table to be updated as he adds more to the list.
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by Rileybobs » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:26 pm
Shaggy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:08 pm
He’s done something lump of never will, score in European competition.

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by tiger76 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:30 pm
Glad Wout finally bagged, he's been working hard for Utd in the main with little reward, but that goal may just settle him down now.
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by Vegas Claret » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:31 pm
Amazing commentary from Savage:
Weghorst has a shot and only superb defending stops him scoring "He's got to do better there"
Antony clean through keeper saves when any half decent striker scores "it's a great save"
One cost 80 million the other is on loan from Burnley.
Agenda Agenda Agenda
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by Taffy on the wing » Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:55 am
Generally getting good reviews from UTD fans.......
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by dermotdermot » Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:52 am
I can’t remember that. Are you saying that Birmingham were in the Europa League in 2011? I can’t remember them being in the Premier League. It’s far too late. I can’t be bothered to google it.
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by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:07 am
dermotdermot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:52 am
I can’t remember that. Are you saying that Birmingham were in the Europa League in 2011? I can’t remember them being in the Premier League. It’s far too late. I can’t be bothered to google it.
They won a domestic cup and got relegated in the same season, hence why they were in the Europa League and in the championship
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:00 am
Steve1956 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:44 pm
List of Shaggy's hates
1.Hamilton
2. Dyche
3. Wood
4. Weghorst
Table to be updated as he adds more to the list.
There is no doubt those 4 make the list but if you are doing them in order you need a new number 1. His biggest hate in life is education and every post the bitter clown makes backs it up even further.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:27 am
Cooclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:04 pm
Idiot boo boys that think they know more about football than ETH and VK. They always need someone to knock down to make themselves feel better.
WW is a quality footballer and is one of the main reasons MU are riding high.
Haha ok,
How anyone on this planet can say Weghorst is a “quality footballer” is beyond me. He’s a good grafter but lacks key attributes to be a quality footballer. He can’t score and is too slow to be a striker in English football. That’s why ETH has dropped him deep.
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by Steve1956 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:19 am
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:00 am
There is no doubt those 4 make the list but if you are doing them in order you need a new number 1. His biggest hate in life is education and every post the bitter clown makes backs it up even further.
Updated table
List of Shaggy's hates
1.Hamilton
2. Dyche
3. Wood
4. Weghorst
5. Claretonthecoast1882
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by Shaggy » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:21 am
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:00 am
There is no doubt those 4 make the list but if you are doing them in order you need a new number 1. His biggest hate in life is education and every post the bitter clown makes backs it up even further.
I like Weghorst.
As for education im more than likely higher educated than yourself.. anyway
Not a sheeple like yourself though.
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by RVclaret » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:23 am
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:27 am
Haha ok,
How anyone on this planet can say Weghorst is a “quality footballer” is beyond me. He’s a good grafter but lacks key attributes to be a quality footballer. He can’t score and is too slow to be a striker in English football. That’s why ETH has dropped him deep.
Least he dropped him deep rather than dropped onto the bench like your forecast after his debut (started every single game since)

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by adropofclaret » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:24 am
My Man U friend at work love WW and think he's helped change there season, lots work work off the ball, chasing down, intelligent play pulling players out of position.
Plus they think he's just nuts

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by what_no_pies » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:43 am
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:27 am
Haha ok,
How anyone on this planet can say Weghorst is a “quality footballer” is beyond me. He’s a good grafter but lacks key attributes to be a quality footballer. He can’t score and is too slow to be a striker in English football. That’s why ETH has dropped him deep.
I suspect you're being serious so i'll be polite.
Nobody plays in the PL and for Holland without being a quality footballer. Weghorst is one of the first names on the team sheet in the third best team in the country at present.
He may not have the speed of a young Michael Owen, the finesse of a cultured midfielder, or the change of direction of a tricky winger but the attributes he does have still equate to a quality player.
How else do you think he's playing for arguably the biggest club in the world?
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by NewClaret » Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:19 am
Had a look on red cafe last night and there was one post that I thought summed it up, paraphrased as “we’re a lot better team/winning more games with Weghorst in the side than Ronaldo”.
I don’t want him back and don’t think he’d suit us now, but I can appreciate his contribution to United. He made some great runs to pull defenders out of shape/get in front of them. If his team mates trusted him he might’ve scored a lot more.
The majority United fans want him gone though, he’s almost becoming another symbol of their fall from grace:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/wout-we ... 14/page-78
I’d forgotten what a bunch of self-entitled knobs United fans were! Makes me appreciate the UTC crew

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by HiThere » Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:14 pm
Has the most interceptions, blocks and tackles for any striker in the Premier League per 90 minutes this season
I guess the question is as a forward whether he's still worth playing with those stats you mention above, taking into account he won't score many. He seems to be more of an attacking midfielder.
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by Cooclaret » Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:43 am
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:43 am
I suspect you're being serious so i'll be polite.
Nobody plays in the PL and for Holland without being a quality footballer. Weghorst is one of the first names on the team sheet in the third best team in the country at present.
He may not have the speed of a young Michael Owen, the finesse of a cultured midfielder, or the change of direction of a tricky winger but the attributes he does have still equate to a quality player.
How else do you think he's playing for arguably the biggest club in the world?
I was going to take the bait and reply, but this sums it up for me.
I said right at the beginning that WW will spell the end for Martial. Now he’s been injured so it might not quite be the death knell I thought, but we’re seeing how good he really is for a fluid United system.
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:45 am
Steve1956 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:19 am
Updated table
List of Shaggy's hates
1.Hamilton
2. Dyche
3. Wood
4. Weghorst
5. Claretonthecoast1882

following on from the clowns emotional outbursts I would much rather feature on that list than one of what he likes
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by Darthlaw » Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:48 am
I had the pleasure of some free booze and prawn sandwiches at the Manyoo Betis game last night.
The overrising memory of Wout's performance was the distinct lack of getting into danger areas or making the correct runs to get himself in a position to score. Aside his goal (which would have been harder to miss), he really didn't contribute much to the game apart from missing a sitter and being offside a few times (ah, memories...).
The overriding thought from those sat around me is that against better opposition he usually reduces their goal threat. This being masked last night by two solo efforts and Bruno's unmarked header from a corner. Certainly the 'he makes runs to distract defenders' line has gone very quiet since his initial performances.
In the main, they're happy that he puts in a shift but would still prefer hit and miss Martial once he returns to fitness.
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by Shaggy » Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:49 am
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:45 am

following on from the clowns emotional outbursts I would much rather feature on that list than one of what he likes
You seem too like following me where as no one gives 2 hoots about someone as insignificant as yourself.
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by roperclaret » Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:54 am
HiThere wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am
I guess the question is as a forward whether he's still worth playing with those stats you mention above, taking into account he won't score many. He seems to be more of an attacking midfielder.
look at Liverpool 2018-2021. Firmino never got 10 league goals in any of the 3 seasons. But he was a huge part of why Salah and Mane scored over 100 goals between them over that period
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by Boss Hogg » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:04 am
He offers pretty much what we saw with us. Nice lay offs and runs off the ball along with work rate. He can’t head though and is too slow to be prolific at PL level. He seems to fit their system at present but I’m sure they could benefit from a better player in there. I hope we can flog him because I’m not sure he would offer us that much.I’ve not seen any thing surprising from him at Man Utd.
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by Spijed » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:10 am
Boss Hogg wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:04 am
He offers pretty much what we saw with us. Nice lay offs and runs off the ball along with work rate. He can’t head though and is too slow to be prolific at PL level. He seems to fit their system at present but I’m sure they could benefit from a better player in there. I hope we can flog him because I’m not sure he would offer us that much.I’ve not seen any thing surprising from him at Man Utd.
A better player than Barnes which would improve us.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:20 am
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:43 am
I suspect you're being serious so i'll be polite.
Nobody plays in the PL and for Holland without being a quality footballer. Weghorst is one of the first names on the team sheet in the third best team in the country at present.
He may not have the speed of a young Michael Owen, the finesse of a cultured midfielder, or the change of direction of a tricky winger but the attributes he does have still equate to a quality player.
How else do you think he's playing for arguably the biggest club in the world?
He’s playing for United as they didn’t have a penny to scratch their arse with.
He’s only playing because of injuries.
There are literally pundits saying he is the worst striker they have had. Their fan base have mocked him since his first game. He will feature until martial is fit then he will be dropped and never play for them again.
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by Big Vinny K » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:23 am
Spijed wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:10 am
A better player than Barnes which would improve us.
Maybe he is right now - but even that’s debatable with Barnes’ performances in last few months.
Wout has age on his side and probably more mobile (but not hard to look more mobile than Ronaldo and Martial did last season).
I’d be very surprised based on what we have seen so far from Weghorst that he go on to score as many goals as Barnes did in the PL. And even in a United team with world class players round him it doesn’t like he’s going to score as many as Barnes did before his injury in the PL.
Whether Weghorst would be better for us in our current team than Barnes I’m not sure - probably. But I hope we will get better than both next season as IMHO Weghorst is not good enough and Barnes is too old for the top league now (hope I’m wrong on Barnes)
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by KRBFC » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:31 am
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:20 am
He’s playing for United as they didn’t have a penny to scratch their arse with.
He’s only playing because of injuries.
There are literally pundits saying he is the worst striker they have had. Their fan base have mocked him since his first game. He will feature until martial is fit then he will be dropped and never play for them again.
You said Lyle Foster is a quality player and Weghorst is shite. Brilliant, just about sums your knowledge on football up.
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by KRBFC » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:35 am
and that's nothing against Foster who might turn out to be good but currently looks like the South African Delroy Facey
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by RVclaret » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:36 am
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:20 am
He’s playing for United as they didn’t have a penny to scratch their arse with.
He’s only playing because of injuries.
There are literally pundits saying he is the worst striker they have had. Their fan base have mocked him since his first game. He will feature until martial is fit then he will be dropped and never play for them again.
Here’s pundit and United fan Gary Neville
“I love Wout Weghorst. There was all this debate with Ronaldo last season that they couldn’t press. Weghorst is very good in transition for Manchester United and defending set pieces. He’s doing a vital job for a team with attacking talent.”
By fan base, perhaps you are doing a twitter search and finding their internet fans from Namibia and Indonesia who’ve never watched a game in person ever.
Ones that I have seen like this one, who is a performance analyst, provides a good and fair analysis:
https://twitter.com/jackfawcett1704/sta ... 59Piho1d6w
As for injuries, Martial has been fit and Weghorst started. Sancho could start but doesn’t. Anthony hasn’t started every game. Rashford starts up top with Weghorst in the 10.
Looks like you are talking nonsense, again.