Should there be a designated Cocaine room in the CFS

[Clive 1960]

From my personal experience it can have a big knock on effect on the family when ones loved one as a addiction on cocaine and need sorting out.

[Taffy on the wing]

If it's as bad as people are saying, expect a lot of Heart attacks & early deaths in the future.

[CoolClaret]

If it's as bad as people are saying, expect a lot of Heart attacks & early deaths in the future.

Happened to a few I know, sadly.. & a mix of steroids to top it off.

Seriously bad stuff cocaine, I just hope that the stuff here doesn't end up getting cut with fentanyl like it is stateside because if it does - we're gonna see stupid numbers of ODs

[Clive 1960]

Happened to a few I know, sadly.. & a mix of steroids to top it off.

Seriously bad stuff cocaine, I just hope that the stuff here doesn't end up getting cut with fentanyl like it is stateside because if it does - we're gonna see stupid numbers of ODs

Couldn't have put it better myself.

[Jakubclaret]

Random drug tests and ban them for life.

Cocaine stays in your system for 2/3 days after last using so you could potentially be banning people who don't even take drugs at football with that idea.

[Rick_Muller]

Cocaine stays in your system for 2/3 days after last using so you could potentially be banning people who don't even take drugs at football with that idea.

Good, lesson learnt then

[Jakubclaret]

Good, lesson learnt then

But the issue is drugs whilst at football, it's a completely different arena tackling the thing nationwide, we can't even contain the problem in TM how the hell are we going to do it?

[Clive 1960]

When you see them getting there fix film them if you see them and give it to the people at football club and let them deal with them . It's so sad we have it like this in society these days never like this in the 70s just a bottle of woodpecker cider to make do with with your mates .

[4midable]

Wont happend
Move stands if it bothers you

[4midable]

Theres a lof of posters here thinking they know more than the rest, talking about purity etc but also condemning it

Just laughed my way through this topic

[Woodleyclaret]

The lax attitude to suppliers by Lancashire Police and the failure to tackle known dealers hasn't helped

[gandhisflipflop]

From my personal experience it can have a big knock on effect on the family when ones loved one as a addiction on cocaine and need sorting out.

One of my family members is going through this now. His selfish need for cocaine is bigger than his desire to see his newborn son. It’s disgusting. His parents are at their whits end as is the family. It’s a disgusting habit, and needs kicking out of society permanently. Personally I would hand out immediate life sentences to those caught dealing.

[Nori1958]

The lax attitude to suppliers by Lancashire Police and the failure to tackle known dealers hasn't helped

Examples please

[Clive 1960]

One of my family members is going through this now. His selfish need for cocaine is bigger than his desire to see his newborn son. It’s disgusting. His parents are at their whits end as is the family. It’s a disgusting habit, and needs kicking out of society permanently. Personally I would hand out immediate life sentences to those caught dealing.

I have been there and it can destroy families and it's only when there's nothing left do they look for help.

[JohnMac]

Are there many kids in the CFS?

I can't see from where I sit but always thought it was just 'lads'

It was evident yesterday many were school age when they ran on the pitch from the CFS

[Venkys4eva]

Theres a lof of posters here thinking they know more than the rest, talking about purity etc but also condemning it

Just laughed my way through this topic

Family brain cell with another member today? Bless

[Jellybean]

Some heart breaking stories on here about relatives, I'm so sorry and really hope that they come to their senses and get help. I wish users would understand the criminality and pain being caused by them getting their fix, if they didn't buy them there wouldn't be much of an industry.

However as others have said cocaine use is clearly rife in society now, day and night, from the working classes to the upper echelons, all creating problems down the line and supporting drugs gangs.

I don't think you can fix this very easily but at least sniffer dogs would curtail the active use in the grounds.
Very sad times indeed.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Unfortunately it is a big problem, it does affect other supporters, and it is against everything the club now stands for, i.e. a safe welcoming family day out. Away games are now almost no go zones for young families, it shouldn’t be like that, so there has to be some league wide approach on the problem too.

So I hope and expect this will get cracked down on hard, no pun intended. I think we need coppers and dogs inside the stadium instead of just around the town. The clubs would need to pay for it I suspect.

(p.s. I do feel for those in trouble with addiction, but turning a blind eye to it doesn’t help)

[Funkydrummer]

The coke being sniffed by the idiots isn't very pure, hasn't been for years, it's been cut with so many different mixers that a "wrap" contains barely 10% of cocaine.

If you have them pure cocaine they'd overdose and end up either dead or in hospital

Suits me.

[4midable]

Suits me.

2 words
Dark Web

[jlup1980]

It's a sad state of affairs when anyone needs to take drugs at a football match. There's a time and a place for these things and it's certainly not in the CFS. The police should be taking the strongest action they can. It's much more of a family game these days and that needs to be considered.

I like a drink but I've no interest in getting hammered during the match. I'm in my early 40's now but even in my late teens and early 20's there was never a desire to get drunk or take drugs at the football.

Unfortunately it's a societal problem. You don't need to look far on social media to see groups of idiotic kids play-fighting at the football these days... all whilst getting their Stone Island badges into shot. The positive is most will grow out of the behavior soon enough. The negative being they'll be a new batch of school leavers coming up behind them ready to take on the mantle.

[Colburn_Claret]

Cocaine stays in your system for 2/3 days after last using so you could potentially be banning people who don't even take drugs at football with that idea.

And ?

[Gaia]

Article on cocaine use and football
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8261822/

[Jakubclaret]

And ?

Drug tests would show pretty much everything & how far would you go, shall we ban people because they smoked a cannabis joint in their own home a week before visiting the ground & what drugs if found positive would meet the criteria for banning & then you have prescription drugs medically prescribed, you would find yourself with an empty ground before you knew it.

[Colburn_Claret]

Drug tests would show pretty much everything & how far would you go, shall we ban people because they smoked a cannabis joint in their own home a week before visiting the ground & what drugs if found positive would meet the criteria for banning & then you have prescription drugs medically prescribed, you would find yourself with an empty ground before you knew it.

You do realise you are advocating the taking of drugs, just so long as it doesn't affect the football.
These idiots have a detrimental effect on all society, not just football fans. They shouldn't be tolerated anywhere. Hopefully, long before the grounds are empty, these scrotes will have woken up to the fact that the abuse of drugs just isn't worth it.
It is possible to have a full, happy, fun filled life style and never take drugs. Anybody who relies on Cocaine to be 'somebody', is a really sad act.

[Jakubclaret]

You do realise you are advocating the taking of drugs, just so long as it doesn't affect the football.
These idiots have a detrimental effect on all society, not just football fans. They shouldn't be tolerated anywhere. Hopefully, long before the grounds are empty, these scrotes will have woken up to the fact that the abuse of drugs just isn't worth it.
It is possible to have a full, happy, fun filled life style and never take drugs. Anybody who relies on Cocaine to be 'somebody', is a really sad act.

I’m advocating nothing, I’m questioning your idea & how it would work with random drug tests & what kind of drugs if found positive would you be open to a ban, people shouldn’t really be taking illegal drugs at football or anywhere but they do & there’s no getting away from that.

[CoolClaret]

I really don’t know what the answer is - I’m not so sure that harsher punishments and more of an iron fist approach will achieve much tbh.

There needs to be a societal shift in the way in which things are viewed for real change to happen.

Unfortunately it’s the thing to do for a lot of people - same with excessive drinking which you only really find here and a few other countries.

You act like that on the continent and our European neighbours just think you’re a bellend….

I sometimes wonder if we have such a heavy drink/drug culture because of the weather?

[SingaporeClarets]

The impact of organised criminal gangs should be enough for anyone to see any kind of illegal drug use has a wider impact than on the user and the users family. Those impacted will find it difficult to accept drug use either publicly or privately.

Thailand recently legalised cannabis, the police here now randomly test Singaporeans and Permanent Residents suspected of drug use at immigration on arrival as the law covers drug use for these groups even outside of Singapore. There are concerns on the impact of such legalisation and whether it could be a gateway drug.

Anyone who has ever flown into Singapore will be well aware from the mandatory announcements made prior to the flight landing what the repercussions are for possession of more than 30g of cocaine or 500g of cannabis.

[Taffy on the wing]

Happened to a few I know, sadly.. & a mix of steroids to top it off.

Seriously bad stuff cocaine, I just hope that the stuff here doesn't end up getting cut with fentanyl like it is stateside because if it does - we're gonna see stupid numbers of ODs

Expect it.

[Taffy on the wing]

When you see them getting there fix film them if you see them and give it to the people at football club and let them deal with them . It's so sad we have it like this in society these days never like this in the 70s just a bottle of woodpecker cider to make do with with your mates .

Through a straw!

[Taffy on the wing]

Article on cocaine use and football
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8261822/

After reading that, the solution is simple.....replace their Cocaine with Ecstasy!

[davideyresleftear]

Erm, this is a Burnley fan bashing thread. Please take your Cardiff fan experiences and post them on a Cardiff forum.

Although I doubt they are moaning as much about their own.

Shite thread.

I don’t think he’s bashing Burnley fans tbh. He’s bashing people who do coke out in the open on the Turf, and he’s right to. It’s a football match yeah and people need to let loose and enjoy it, but there has to be a balance.

Like, it’s way too far when people moan about swearing on the Turf, but you should have a reasonable expectation to be able to take your kids on a match and not see people sniffing illegal drugs twenty feet away. It makes for a really grimy atmosphere and it’s the complete opposite of the way the club wants to go.

[davideyresleftear]

Wont happend
Move stands if it bothers you

Well no, the people there to watch football shouldn’t have to move stands to accommodate someone who can’t get through 90 mins of what should be a pleasurable activity without having a sniff.

How tf do you move stands anyway, when you buy a ticket you go to the seat you purchased. It’s not cocaine themed musical chairs

[turbo5]

After reading that, the solution is simple.....replace their Cocaine with Ecstasy!

They would all be hugging each other and telling everybody they love them.
Now swapping their Coke for Ketamine would be more interesting That would be one big K Hole

[CoolClaret]

They would all be hugging each other and telling everybody they love them.
Now swapping their Coke for Ketamine would be more interesting That would be one big K Hole

Good way to stop any pitch invasions that's for sure - and would slow down the 180 bpm chants, although I'm not sure they'd be eligible at 40 bpm....

[Rick_Muller]

I’m advocating nothing, I’m questioning your idea & how it would work with random drug tests & what kind of drugs if found positive would you be open to a ban, people shouldn’t really be taking illegal drugs at football or anywhere but they do & there’s no getting away from that.

Just go with the thought process for 5 minutes.

Let’s assume that any fan who is subject to a random drug test and fails it then subsequently faces a ban (length of ban could be 1st offence - 3 games; 2nd offence - 10 games; third offence - lifetime ban). Knowing that the choice is to be able to go to football if I don’t take drugs, or not go to football and take drugs - that’s a simple life choice right?

It’s not perfect, but the sword of Damocles hanging over them might just be enough to stop enough of them and rid football from a lot of users.

It has to be the next logical step to take.

[Devils_Advocate]

Just go with the thought process for 5 minutes.

Let’s assume that any fan who is subject to a random drug test and fails it then subsequently faces a ban (length of ban could be 1st offence - 3 games; 2nd offence - 10 games; third offence - lifetime ban). Knowing that the choice is to be able to go to football if I don’t take drugs, or not go to football and take drugs - that’s a simple life choice right?

It’s not perfect, but the sword of Damocles hanging over them might just be enough to stop enough of them and rid football from a lot of users.

It has to be the next logical step to take.

Just go with a different thought process for 5 minutes

Who is going to carry out a random drug test?
Where and when will it take place?
How long will it take and how many people will be tested?
What will be the cost to implement this?
What equipment will be used and under what guidelines?
Who will be responsible for capturing, processing and maintaining peoples information?
Who and how will the results be followed up with the tested person?
Where does all this sit in terms of things like GDPR and any other legal rules around enforcing a random drug test?
Would you be happy to be pulled away somewhere for maybe 30 mins to complete a test and maybe miss some of the football?

You're right that its not perfect and if you think this is the next logical step to take you sound a little batsh*t crazy on this subject

[Jakubclaret]

Just go with the thought process for 5 minutes.

Let’s assume that any fan who is subject to a random drug test and fails it then subsequently faces a ban (length of ban could be 1st offence - 3 games; 2nd offence - 10 games; third offence - lifetime ban). Knowing that the choice is to be able to go to football if I don’t take drugs, or not go to football and take drugs - that’s a simple life choice right?

It’s not perfect, but the sword of Damocles hanging over them might just be enough to stop enough of them and rid football from a lot of users.

It has to be the next logical step to take.

The question I’m asking & so far I’ve yet to receive an answer, is how far would this go because like I’ve already said certain drugs stay in your system for different periods due to all the variables at play & are we just looking at cocaine or is cannabis on the cards or ecstasy or others? Taking drugs recreationally in the privacy & comfort of your own home & going to football & getting wrecked are 2 totally different things but with what you are suggesting could land you in the same sort of trouble.

[Rick_Muller]

Just go with a different thought process for 5 minutes

Who is going to carry out a random drug test?
Where and when will it take place?
How long will it take and how many people will be tested?
What will be the cost to implement this?
What equipment will be used and under what guidelines?
Who will be responsible for capturing, processing and maintaining peoples information?
Who and how will the results be followed up with the tested person?
Where does all this sit in terms of things like GDPR and any other legal rules around enforcing a random drug test?
Would you be happy to be pulled away somewhere for maybe 30 mins to complete a test and maybe miss some of the football?

You're right that its not perfect and if you think this is the next logical step to take you sound a little batsh*t crazy on this subject

Ummm - the police would do all what you suggest. Random means a random selection, it takes 10 minutes to process the tests. Pass, no problem. Fail, face a ban.

Suggesting I’m batshit crazy for wanting to make inroads to eliminate drug use in society and at football actually makes you sound like an absolute looney.

Grow up DA, you’re better than this.

[daveisaclaret]

It's batshit crazy to think the police have either the resources or the will to do any of that.

[Rick_Muller]

The question I’m asking & so far I’ve yet to receive an answer, is how far would this go because like I’ve already said certain drugs stay in your system for different periods due to all the variables at play & are we just looking at cocaine or is cannabis on the cards or ecstasy or others? Taking drugs recreationally in the privacy & comfort of your own home & going to football & getting wrecked are 2 totally different things but with what you are suggesting could land you in the same sort of trouble.

It’s time to take a stand against drug use and if football make attempts to stop it in their private venues by working with the police, it will benefit all society.

If you don’t make a stand - does that imply you advocate drug use? Not necessarily, but you won’t paint a good picture of yourself.

[Jakubclaret]

It's batshit crazy to think the police have either the resources or the will to do any of that.

But at what gain? That many people are at it it's not worth the hassle for them.

[Rick_Muller]

It's batshit crazy to think the police have either the resources or the will to do any of that.

Fine. So I’m batshit crazy. F#cking hell, this forum and some of the contributors really are dense if they cannot comprehend the point I am trying to make.

[Jakubclaret]

It’s time to take a stand against drug use and if football make attempts to stop it in their private venues by working with the police, it will benefit all society.

If you don’t make a stand - does that imply you advocate drug use? Not necessarily, but you won’t paint a good picture of yourself.

It's a war that's already lost, I just keep away from it all anything for a nice quiet peaceful life, if the parents can't be @rsed why should I?

[daveisaclaret]

Fine. So I’m batshit crazy. F#cking hell, this forum and some of the contributors really are dense if they cannot comprehend the point I am trying to make.

I don't think DA or I are not comprehending the point you're trying to make. I can't speak for him but I'm sure he's just as keen as you or me for an end to this as it's a huge problem. It's just pointing out that what you're asking for is completely impossible.

[Devils_Advocate]

I don't think DA or I are not comprehending the point you're trying to make. I can't speak for him but I'm sure he's just as keen as you or me for an end to this as it's a huge problem. It's just pointing out that what you're asking for is completely impossible.

Yep spot on

[Rick_Muller]

I don't think DA or I are not comprehending the point you're trying to make. I can't speak for him but I'm sure he's just as keen as you or me for an end to this as it's a huge problem. It's just pointing out that what you're asking for is completely impossible.

Absolutely everything is impossible if you don’t make any effort in the first place. Sh!t, it would be impossible for Burnley to get promoted if the players didn’t bother turning up to play right.

Where there’s a will there’s a way. The difficult part is getting enough people to be willing to make a difference.

[Rick_Muller]

I want a drug free football experience… but hey, I’m batshit crazy

Yeah, going to leave the cuckoos nest for a while for my own sanity.

[Rileybobs]

Fine. So I’m batshit crazy. F#cking hell, this forum and some of the contributors really are dense if they cannot comprehend the point I am trying to make.

Randomly testing people for drugs is far far too intrusive. I feel violated when someone asks to look in my bag, never mind when I get patted down before entering away games. Randomly picking people out of a queue to test them for drug abuse is a bonkers idea to be fair.

What would be quite simple would be to identify those sniffing coke whilst at their seat on CCTV, and to also police the toilets to prevent groups from entering the cubicles.

[Devils_Advocate]

Absolutely everything is impossible if you don’t make any effort in the first place. Sh!t, it would be impossible for Burnley to get promoted if the players didn’t bother turning up to play right.

Where there’s a will there’s a way. The difficult part is getting enough people to be willing to make a difference.

The police have very limited legal powers to get you to comply to a drug test and it definitely wouldn't be met by your proposal of a random test to enter the stadium so yes whilst your intentions are well placed your ideas are nonsense Im afraid