Ashes Second Test

StayingDown4Ever · Post by **StayingDown4Ever** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:42 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:28 pm
Jimmy has dropped a couple of dolly’s this game

Do you think he might be dropped himself for the next game?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:50 pm

Good session for England at the moment.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:53 pm

Keep the chase around 400 and we’re still in this

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:56 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:42 pm
Do you think he might be dropped himself for the next game?

I suspect there’s a good chance he’s dropped for the next

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:01 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:53 pm
Keep the chase around 400 and we’re still in this

Trouble is the Aussies will employ the same, short pitched tactics, and we won't be able to get anywhere near 400.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:08 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:01 pm
Trouble is the Aussies will employ the same, short pitched tactics, and we won't be able to get anywhere near 400.

It was the Aussie bowlers who first used the short pitched bowling tactic in the first innings to good effect and England have now followed suit. It worked for Australia first time around so why change it.
On a two paced wicket scoring 400 runs will be extremely difficult especially against short pitched bowling when scoring shots will be limited.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:10 pm

Not had a Bodyline Series since 1933/1934. Will be very boring to watch that’s for sure.

StayingDown4Ever · Post by **StayingDown4Ever** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:13 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:56 pm
I suspect there’s a good chance he’s dropped for the next

Just seen the drop. That was very, very poor.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:17 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:38 pm
What would you describe it as?

If you look back at the history of test cricket, the side with the the highest run rate of all time are Sri Lanka with an average of just below 3.1 runs per over. All other nations are obviously below this, so I wouldnt call 3 runs an over plodding.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:17 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:13 pm
Just seen the drop. That was very, very poor.

I thought both of his drops this game have been absolutely shocking

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:22 pm

Vino blanco wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:17 pm
If you look back at the history of test cricket, the side with the the highest run rate of all time are Sri Lanka with an average of just below 3.1 runs per over. All other nations are obviously below this, so I wouldnt call 3 runs an over plodding.

Substitute plod for another word then, my point still stands. Had we batted conservatively at 3 runs per over there’s no saying that we would have ended in a better position.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:29 pm

If the whole object of BAZ ball is to score runs quickly that becomes a lot more difficult against short pitched bodyline bowling, as England found in the first innings and Australia in their second. Bodyline is a negative tactic to stop teams scoring freely. England deployed it in 1933/1934 with just one aim - to stop Don Bradman scoring.

sjb · Post by **sjb** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:44 pm

kentonclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:10 pm
Not had a Bodyline Series since 1933/1934. Will be very boring to watch that’s for sure.

1932/33

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:56 pm

This is scintillating stuff.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:02 pm

It’s contagious

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:07 pm

This was the point I was making. Australia leaving everything for the best part of an hour and scoring, what 20 runs(?), and still lost a wicket.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:12 pm

And another

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:12 pm

2 more wickets to go

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:15 pm

Any batsman that attempts any attacking shots is soon walking towards the pavilion. Scoring 300 plus on this 2 paced wicket against short pitched bowling will be extremely difficult.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:24 pm

kentonclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:15 pm
Any batsman that attempts any attacking shots is soon walking towards the pavilion. Scoring 300 plus on this 2 paced wicket against short pitched bowling will be extremely difficult.

Both teams are playing like they have never seen a short ball.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:29 pm

ANOTHER no ball wicket

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:31 pm

We've actually given ourselves a chance here

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:51 pm

With Lyon unlikely to bowl soon is Pope likely to be able to bat for England with his shoulder?

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:58 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:51 pm
With Lyon unlikely to bowl soon is Pope likely to be able to bat for England with his shoulder?

Hope not , he’s better using his bat

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:10 pm

Nathan Lyon may not be scoring but crucial time being taken out of the game as far as the Aussies are concerned.

StayingDown4Ever · Post by **StayingDown4Ever** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:12 pm

If this boy could run they’d have added another 15 or so already.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:14 pm

Surely get a few balls on the stumps?

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:15 pm

Frustrating stuff!.....Aussies as usual showing some grit.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:15 pm

This is just embarrassing.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:15 pm

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:15 pm
This is just embarrassing.

Absolutely ridiculous, hit the bloody stumps!

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:16 pm

These runs are killing any chance we had......IMO. Bowl at the stumps FFS.

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:17 pm

Not sure what Broads tactics are here

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:22 pm

It was madness. One yorker would have done, ages ago. I thought AI had taken over Stokes's brain.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:24 pm

Also why did Stokes bowl himself for so long. He's now got cramp at best.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:28 pm

30-40 overs left in the day it would have been 50.

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:35 pm

Don’t know if it’s been asked,but why isn’t Lyon allowed a runner?

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:37 pm

Carwin261 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:35 pm
Don’t know if it’s been asked,but why isn’t Lyon allowed a runner?

Don't think they are allowed now.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:38 pm

Not allowed in International Cricket

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:38 pm

No longer permitted unfortunately, due to the fact that some teams were abusing it.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:39 pm

Don’t see us getting anywhere near this total. 250 would be a good scire

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:42 pm

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:38 pm
No longer permitted unfortunately, due to the fact that some teams were abusing it.

I always used to enjoy the chaos of a runner on the pitch but it's some years now since it was allowed.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:45 pm

Duckett trying his best to get out ........wafting at everything.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:48 pm

Crawley out - 9/1, caught behind down leg side

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:50 pm

FFS.........They don't learn.

alwaysaclaret · Post by **alwaysaclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:51 pm

Here we go again, another cheap needless wicket, just leave the damn thing, it's actually gone past him so to go and play it is stupid.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:52 pm

Duckett gone, 10/2 - hang on there's a review

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:52 pm

And so it begins , sorry ends

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:52 pm

We need a big partnership….soooooon

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:53 pm

Not out - missing stumps on an lbw

Whitgord · Post by **Whitgord** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:53 pm

Phew not out