Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:06 pm

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:02 pm
He's being facetious in the first para..he admits as much..what follows actually makes sense.

The fee quoted.is a bit of a head scratcher and however good the kid is it looks a massive un-Burnley-like punt.

Fingers crossed.

We’ve had twelve months plus of ‘un-Burnley-like’ to perhaps start not being quite so surprised by events at the club.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:10 pm

The downside worst case of the Trafford deal is a combination of relegation and a sale at, say, £5m if he flops.

The upside is massive. Say he gets into the England squad - at his age he would be worth £30m+ in that eventuality, City’s sell on is big but still less than we would bank as a profit. Then we get the league position improvements and possibility of Europe compared to a lesser keeper. I assume the City buy back has to be at least £30m or there is no incentive for us.

So on balance while £10m feels closer to true value I’m not baulking at the £14m plus extras.

Andingle · Post by **Andingle** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:14 pm

No idea if any truth

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Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:18 pm

Andingle wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:14 pm
No idea if any truth
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Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s accurate tbh. The world of football is bats*** crazy after all!!

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:22 pm

Regarding the Trafford signing. He is obviously a talented lad, but this does seem a strange deal to me.
No offence to the lad, but he hasn’t even played Championship football yet, let alone prem footy so how we’ve arrived at this fee seems bizarre to me.
Having said that, Brighton have just spent similar money on Verbruggen who’s only had 1 season in Belgium!?!?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:23 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:42 pm
Not a keeper but I feel they catch the ball less since they started wearing padded pillows on their hands.

I think it could be a percentage thing. failing to hold the ball in front of goal isn't worth the risk

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:28 pm

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:02 pm
He's being facetious in the first para..he admits as much..what follows actually makes sense.

The fee quoted.is a bit of a head scratcher and however good the kid is it looks a massive un-Burnley-like punt.

Fingers crossed.

The fee quoted is more than just a head scratcher - it seems a bit crazy based on the lad's playing history

As does the fee for the young kid from Dortmund who also has little more experience

It's ok to buy for the future but this season starts next month and we still need to spend on LB, CM, Wide and Striker

Just hope we have reasonable funds available

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:30 pm

Surely we can get Maatsen on loan?

Not ideal, but we can't really shell out £25 million on him

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:30 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:46 pm
https://www.3addedminutes.com/sport/foo ... er-4206602

Thanks for that Agent Claret.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:41 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:30 pm
Surely we can get Maatsen on loan?

Not ideal, but we can't really shell out £25 million on him

You’d think a loan suits all parties really. Issue is Chelsea delaying the deal as Poch might want a good look at him in pre-season.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:42 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:30 pm
Surely we can get Maatsen on loan?

Not ideal, but we can't really shell out £25 million on him

He has one year left, doubt they’ll loan him unless he signs a new deal.

We’d be best trying to loan Gomez and then Chelsea would know we’re not desperate. Could easily save us the money on Gomez’s wages/loan fee just by putting us in a better negotiation position.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:42 pm

A loan would be great if we could tie him up at the end of it.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:47 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:42 pm
He has one year left, doubt they’ll loan him unless he signs a new deal.

We’d be best trying to loan Gomez and then Chelsea would know we’re not desperate. Could easily save us the money on Gomez’s wages/loan fee just by putting us in a better negotiation position.

Gomez has stated he wants to stay at City.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:59 pm

Maatsen for £25 million?
Maybe with addons and an agreed fee around £15 million

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:02 pm

Andingle wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:14 pm
No idea if any truth
Screenshot_20230704-191128_Twitter.jpg

Utter madness price

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:02 pm

I wouldn't go more than 15 including add ons for Maatsen

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:02 pm
I wouldn't go more than 15 including add ons for Maatsen

We’ve made a rod for our own backs with the fee for Trafford and the lad from Germany

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:05 pm

Unless we are taking out even more loans where are we getting the money to pay for the players at their prices?

Hopefully not against future PL earnings.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:07 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:02 pm
I wouldn't go more than 15 including add ons for Maatsen

I really like him, but I agree.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:07 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:05 pm
Unless we are taking out even more loans where are we getting the money to pay for the players at their prices?

Hopefully not against future PL earnings.

Why not? That's kind of what the PL is about. They don't give the money away like some sort of gift to the chairman.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:11 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:07 pm
Why not? That's kind of what the PL is about. They don't give the money away like some sort of gift to the chairman.

Why do you think so many clubs are facing financial difficulties these days?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:12 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:11 pm
Why do you think so many clubs are facing financial difficulties these days?

That will be a combination of things... wages is a big one.

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:16 pm

Genuinely mystified about the price tag if I'm being honest

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:19 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:47 pm
Gomez has stated he wants to stay at City.

Just read that, didn’t know. Although he doesn’t rule out a move, just says he plans to give his all in pre-season and prove he deserves more minutes.

Guess it depends what Pep tells him his chances will be. Wouldn’t rule it out but yes, sounds a lot less likely. Sigh.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:20 pm

Ric_C wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:16 pm
Genuinely mystified about the price tag if I'm being honest

I think I heard this correctly, the 17th most expensive 'keeper ever.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:20 pm

Ric_C wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:16 pm
Genuinely mystified about the price tag if I'm being honest

Really? I think 14m for one of the most highly rated u21 keepers in the world could be a snip in a season or two.

Edit - perhaps you were meaning Maatsen, apologies - yeah, 20-25m seems daft.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:21 pm

Ric_C wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:16 pm
Genuinely mystified about the price tag if I'm being honest

It's Chelsea world. They think he is worth 40% of Mark C. He is but they paid way too much.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:24 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:20 pm
I think I heard this correctly, the 17th most expensive 'keeper ever.

If Add ons are realised Trafford will be the tenth most expensive keeper in football history.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:28 pm

Maatsen is definitely too expensive at £25m, if indeed that report is to be believed.

I must say I trust VK and the team implicitly, but I am slightly concerned that the headline fees that are out there (I know we don't pay them all in one go) for Couilbaly and Trafford could come back to haunt us. The perception will be that we've overpaid and other clubs will want a slice of that when we come knocking again.

I trust that there is a plan in place, and sufficient funds, to strengthen those areas that really need attention. To my mind we still require as a minimum players who can start straight away in the following positions:
1 left back
1 central midfielder of a defensive nature
1 winger
1 striker

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:28 pm

Muric has Apparantly deleted all posts relating to Burnley on Instagram. Can someone confirm? I suspect that means he is gone

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:29 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:24 pm
If Add ons are realised Trafford will be the tenth most expensive keeper in football history.

If the add one are realised it’s highly likely that not long after he will be much higher than tenth in that list.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:31 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:29 pm
If the add one are realised it’s highly likely that not long after he will be much higher than tenth in that list.

More than likely.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:31 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:28 pm
Muric has Apparantly deleted all posts relating to Burnley on Instagram. Can someone confirm? I suspect that means he is gone

Well I never!

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:31 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:28 pm
Muric has Apparantly deleted all posts relating to Burnley on Instagram. Can someone confirm? I suspect that means he is gone

Along with a weird post about not being number 2

TPClaret · Post by **TPClaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:32 pm

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:31 pm
Well I never!

About right for his character

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:32 pm

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:31 pm
Along with a weird post about not being number 2

I don’t have Instagram can you post it?

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:33 pm

So how many goalkeepers do we have now? I’m losing track.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:33 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:03 pm
We’ve made a rod for our own backs with the fee for Trafford and the lad from Germany

not really, he's only got 1 year left on his deal

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:35 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:28 pm
Muric has Apparantly deleted all posts relating to Burnley on Instagram. Can someone confirm? I suspect that means he is gone

yep all gone, weird

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:36 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:32 pm
I don’t have Instagram can you post it?

Think that one was posted a while ago as one of those stories that disappear

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:36 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:35 pm
yep all gone, weird

Not good for Muric lovers like me I suspect

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:37 pm

A great shame about Muric if true.

I really took to him and was really looking forward to seeing his development next season.

Ah well, I suppose we've got to get behind Trafford now. Hope he turns out as good.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:39 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:18 pm
I've just watched the full highlights on Trafford for last season and in all of his games he caught the ball x3 in total, he punched away or parried away every single time and that will be punished in the Premier league

It would be a bit of a crap highlight reel if it showed all his catches

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:41 pm

Deleting all your posts on Instagram is a bit of a weird mentality isn’t it. Not been any strong links with a move away yet, mind.

TPClaret · Post by **TPClaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:43 pm

Never seen a goalkeeper subbed as much as Muric. Seemed a bit soft at times

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:44 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:37 pm
A great shame about Muric if true.

I really took to him and was really looking forward to seeing his development next season.

Ah well, I suppose we've got to get behind Trafford now. Hope he turns out as good.

Muric gave us some fantastic moments last season. I would be sorry to see him leave.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:48 pm

His Instagram is private so unless you request and he accepts you can't see anything he posts.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:49 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:41 pm
Deleting all your posts on Instagram is a bit of a weird mentality isn’t it. Not been any strong links with a move away yet, mind.

He’d posted to say he was in Manchester earlier. Maybe returned to pre-season training today and received some bad news?

I can kind of understand it if he’s been told he’s been ousted after the massive season he just had for us.

But yes, a bit petulant but think Obafemi did the same.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:50 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:37 pm
A great shame about Muric if true.

I really took to him and was really looking forward to seeing his development next season.

Ah well, I suppose we've got to get behind Trafford now. Hope he turns out as good.

I hope he turns out to be a lot better.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:51 pm

Some on Twitter saying he's done it twice before/all the time and this was done weeks ago.