Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ClaretAL » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:07 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:06 pm
It is getting a bit silly now.
That depends on whether wingers are also going out.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Murger » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:10 pm

It’s like Warnocks obsession with strikers all over again.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:11 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:07 pm
That depends on whether wingers are also going out.
Was there anything solid in the rumours of AC Milan being interested in Benson?

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Post by Mattster » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:17 pm

Daramy is almost certainly the Tella alternative.

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Post by jedi_master » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:18 pm

Tella alternative maybe? He’s able to play wide or through the middle/ish from what I’m reading.

Ajax fans do not rate him and are happy at this news.

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:19 pm

Mattster wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:17 pm
Daramy is almost certainly the Tella alternative.
Was just about to say this.

Similar profiles although Daramy has more physicality about him?

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:20 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:18 pm
Tella alternative maybe? He’s able to play wide or through the middle/ish from what I’m reading.

Ajax fans do not rate him and are happy at this news.
What's the Dutch for "I'll drive him there myself?" ;)

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by jedi_master » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:20 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:19 pm
Was just about to say this.

Similar profiles although Daramy has more physicality about him?
Looks quite a tall lad - interesting profile for a winger. The guy we were linked with very early on (Becker) had a similar build.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Nori1958 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:28 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:18 pm
Tella alternative maybe? He’s able to play wide or through the middle/ish from what I’m reading.

Ajax fans do not rate him and are happy at this news.
Quite a few Ajax fans are saying the opposite, from the 2 mins of reading I've done
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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:31 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:28 pm
Quite a few Ajax fans are saying the opposite, from the 2 mins of reading I've done
Yes the replies to the original tweet show mixed views from Ajax fans who have replied.

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:32 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:00 pm
Another winger? :o
Or perhaps VK intends to instead utilise some of these lads in midfield? Perhaps a bit less physical than we're used to in the middle,but they'd be a lot faster than we're used to.

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Post by ervi34 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:32 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:11 pm
Was there anything solid in the rumours of AC Milan being interested in Benson?
Sacha Tavolieri confirmed the rumours are fake and that he won't leave this summer.

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Post by Carwin261 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:33 pm

Anyone remember to song ‘The Man from Laramie’? don’t think many on the Cricket Field Stand will.

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Post by warksclaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:33 pm

Sounds a very exciting young prospect who Vinny rates highly-thats surely positive

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Casper2 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:33 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:20 pm
What's the Dutch for "I'll drive him there myself?" ;)
F off

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Post by Casper2 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:34 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:33 pm
Anyone remember to song ‘The Man from Laramie’? don’t think many on the Cricket Field Stand will.
Be amazed if they can remember getting to the ground :o
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Post by Paul Waine » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:35 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:20 pm
What's the Dutch for "I'll drive him there myself?" ;)
"Alstubleift, je gefharen ihr meeself" I understand. ;)

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Post by jedi_master » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:39 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:28 pm
Quite a few Ajax fans are saying the opposite, from the 2 mins of reading I've done
The ones replying to Romano’s tweet are heavily weighted towards the negative (that’s all I was referencing).

From what I can gather he tore it up in Denmark, moved to Ajax and only played 12 league games/struggled and then returned back to Denmark on loan and was excellent again. He only turned 21 in January so clearly bags of potential and might just need to re-settle again.

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Post by Pickles » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:44 pm

I may be in the minority but I think we do need a bit more in the wide forward areas and if a good deal comes up then we should go with it.

Not a chance Gudmundsson and Twine are wingers in a Kompany team so I'm not counting them. Churlinov is injured and won't feature much anyway. Bruun Larsen, in my opinion of course, will play a tad more centrally. A bit like Gudmundsson did with aplomb against Middlesbrough.

Last season, wingers were pivotal to how we played. Our wingers stretched the pitch, proper chalk on boots stuff. And Kompany likes/d changing his wingers in game.

So that leaves Benson, Zaroury, Redmond and Koleosho.

Three of those have never played in the Prem and one of them has never played in England and barely in Spain.

It may not be as important as central midfield and left back, but transfers don't always go through in order of importance. It's definitely, in my view, an area where we need more depth.
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Post by Firthy » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:45 pm

If we sign all these wingers for next season then we'll definitely be flying high :roll: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Cirrus_Minor » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:46 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:20 pm
What's the Dutch for "I'll drive him there myself?" ;)
I'll drive him their myshelf
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Post by Mattster » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:46 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:19 pm
Was just about to say this.

Similar profiles although Daramy has more physicality about him?
Yeah. Doesn’t look like he’s ever been given a chance by Ajax. 3 assists and 1 goal from just over 2 90s but shipped back to Copenhagen on loan last season so probably happy to get their money back or close to given they just signed Borges.

Slightly O/T…

But personally would prefer Tella but purely because of the affinity from last season. Maybe he kicks up a fuss if it looks like we are forced in another direction
Although part of me thinks (/hopes) Tella scenario pans out like Obafemi. Could see him unhappy behind the scenes, not scoring much at all as Martin deploys him differently, ending up on the periphery whilst the Saints fans get in a huff and we end up with him a lot more cheaply in January as a replacement for Zaroury/Benson when one of them lights up the PL and gets picked off by one of the big boys.

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Post by Goalposts » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:14 pm

Ive seen that Sheff utd are in for Akpom from boro for a reported fee of £8m

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:17 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:46 pm
I'll drive him their myshelf
That you Schteve?
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:31 pm

This lad from Ajax has to be instead of someone, no way we sign this lad and also:
Townsend - free
Odobert- 9mil
Tella - 12-15mil
With only churlinov leaving

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Post by Guller Bull » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:43 pm

So what have we got left to do?

For my bit of guesswork

Ins:

Townsend
Odobert
Lokonga (loan wotb)
Left back - (Maatsen late in window)
Tresor

Outs

Brownhill
Weghorst
Churlinov
Cork
Bastien
Charlie
Jay
Costelloe
Franchi
Muric
Benson :O
Dodgeson (Loan)

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Post by burnley007 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:46 pm

what happened to Odobert? I thought that was a done deal?

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Post by Guller Bull » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:48 pm

This season's start certainly feels like last season in that it's probably going to take a few games to work out who is who and who does what.

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Post by Goody1975 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:51 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:48 pm
This season's start certainly feels like last season in that it's probably going to take a few games to work out who is who and who does what.
The week off could be a blessing in disguise for the coaching team and the players.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:52 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:20 pm
Looks quite a tall lad - interesting profile for a winger. The guy we were linked with very early on (Becker) had a similar build.
He's not tall at 5 ft 11 in footballing term's, I've watched a few videos of him and he looks rapid

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Post by ervi34 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:56 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:43 pm
So what have we got left to do?

For my bit of guesswork

Ins:

Townsend
Odobert
Lokonga (loan wotb)
Left back - (Maatsen late in window)
Tresor

Outs

Brownhill
Weghorst
Churlinov
Cork
Bastien
Charlie
Jay
Costelloe
Franchi
Muric
Benson :O
Dodgeson (Loan)
You think we will end the window with only 2 central midfielders? I just can't get why a lot of people here think we will move put so many players.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:57 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:43 pm
So what have we got left to do?

For my bit of guesswork

Ins:

Townsend
Odobert
Lokonga (loan wotb)
Left back - (Maatsen late in window)
Tresor

Outs

Brownhill
Weghorst
Churlinov
Cork
Bastien
Charlie
Jay
Costelloe
Franchi
Muric
Benson :O
Dodgeson (Loan)
Brownhill ain't going anywhere, I suspect he'll feature prominently this season
Muric won't be off, nor Benson
Jay will stay too

Has Churlinov recovered yet?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:02 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:43 pm
So what have we got left to do?

For my bit of guesswork

Ins:

Townsend
Odobert
Lokonga (loan wotb)
Left back - (Maatsen late in window)
Tresor

Outs

Brownhill
Weghorst
Churlinov
Cork
Bastien
Charlie
Jay
Costelloe
Franchi
Muric
Benson :O
Dodgeson (Loan)
Based on this, who would play in midfield if Cullen and lokonga got injured? JBG and Jordan North?

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Post by CoolClaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:03 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:43 pm
So what have we got left to do?

For my bit of guesswork

Ins:

Townsend
Odobert
Lokonga (loan wotb)
Left back - (Maatsen late in window)
Tresor

Outs

Brownhill
Weghorst
Churlinov
Cork
Bastien
Charlie
Jay
Costelloe
Franchi
Muric
Benson :O
Dodgeson (Loan)
Absolutely blows my mind how you can come up with that, properly bonkers.

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Post by DCWat » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:04 pm

You may be right.

I wouldn’t be so quick to rule anything just yet.

We presumably need to recoup some money and trim the squad down somewhat.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:09 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:39 pm
The ones replying to Romano’s tweet are heavily weighted towards the negative (that’s all I was referencing).

From what I can gather he tore it up in Denmark, moved to Ajax and only played 12 league games/struggled and then returned back to Denmark on loan and was excellent again. He only turned 21 in January so clearly bags of potential and might just need to re-settle again.
Hardly surprising he couldn't settle in the Netherlands the Dutch are, apparently, notoriously difficult to get on with.
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Post by Carwin261 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:10 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:34 pm
Be amazed if they can remember getting to the ground :o
Don’t go down that road again,or us old buggers in the BL stand will get panned.😂

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Post by Carwin261 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:13 pm

Not being racist but can we sign a few with British type names ,only just remembering Bastien from last season,perhaps names like Fred.😂

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:16 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:13 pm
Not being racist but can we sign a few with British type names ,only just remembering Bastien from last season,perhaps names like Fred.😂
What a strange comment

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Post by bobinho » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:26 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:20 pm
What's the Dutch for "I'll drive him there myself?" ;)
Ik zal hem er zelf heen rijden…😉👍🏻

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:26 pm

Danish media suggesting a fee around €16m (£13.75m) for Daramy is being discussed between the clubs.

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Post by Carwin261 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:29 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:16 pm
What a strange comment
Wasn’t supposed to be nasty ,could recite McDonald to Pilkington,and everyone in between,struggling now to remember half the players forenames now .

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Post by Bangers&Mash » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:33 pm

It's worth noting that last season we were playing with 4 "wingers" in our system with them taking up LM RM AM and CF positions. To do similar and to have sufficient cover we need 2 for each position and then maybe a couple of extra so we don't end up in a pickle with an injury or two. It'll be a refreshing change seeing genuinely good players on the bench that can make a difference

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Post by mkmel » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:33 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:26 pm
Danish media suggesting a fee around €16m (£13.75m) for Daramy is being discussed between the clubs.
Serious question.

Where is all this money coming from?

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Post by Spiral » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:40 pm

Sorry if this has already been discussed but I learned that Troyes where we're getting Odobert from are a part of the City group. It's pretty clear that City are happy to use Burnley as a sort of finishing school with all the connections, the manager, the two GK's, THB, CJER, the links with Delap last year, some other fringe City players this summer. There's clearly lots of communication between the two of us. Wonder if this City-Burnley link has influenced the Odobert deal.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:43 pm

mkmel wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:33 pm
Serious question.

Where is all this money coming from?
I can only assume more loans. Unless we have suddenly found a multimillion pound investor that can throw 10s of millions at it.

Could be a bit of a bet the ranch play.

At this point all we can do is enjoy the ride and hope everything works out

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Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:47 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:03 pm
Looks like a traditional 3-1-6 formation next season
That seems unnecessarily cautious
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Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:47 pm

mkmel wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:33 pm
Serious question.

Where is all this money coming from?
Well so far we’ve spent around £47m. Wage bill for this season should be in the region of £60-70m. Commercial revenue is suggested to be higher than ever before at £14/15m. Operating costs were around £19m in the PL last time. Doing some back of fag packet maths that leaves around £50-60m from the £135-145m expected total revenues this season. So purely from a future income / expenditure perspective it works out (for now).

Then you consider of that £50m (let’s round up cause of agent fees) spend so far, only around a quarter of that is upfront, so in cash flow around £12.5m goes out. We’ve received a fee for Bobby Thomas and might yet sell another player here or there. Perhaps there was even some cash left over from last season, or perhaps there’s been some extra investment into the ALK investment vehicles, but of course those two points are speculative.

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Post by fatboy47 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:50 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:13 pm
Not being racist
Not half.
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Post by pureclaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:50 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:33 pm
Anyone remember to song ‘The Man from Laramie’? don’t think many on the Cricket Field Stand will.
never saw a man out draw the man from Laramie (bob Lord stand)

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