Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[123EasyasBFC]

Bastien not making a bench of 12, safe to say he isn’t in the plans this season

[Pickles]

Still lots to do this month. A winger or two, a central midfielder or two, a left back or two and a striker.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Bastien and Weghorst both out the door?

Townsend injured or not singing ?

[Conroysleftfoot]

Bastien and Weghorst both out the door?

Townsend injured or not singing ?

i've heard him singing, he's rubbish.

[Colburn_Claret]

This seems a bit strange. You would think that the player could negotiate their personal terms after the buy-back had been triggered - like a normal transfer scenario. There’s so many things that can potentially change between now and that point that it seems unusual that those terms have to be agreed now.

You can't have an agreement in place, for Villa to have first option if we decided to sell Ramsey on, unless the player is also happy to return to Villa.

[Colburn_Claret]

Might as well be Levi Stubbs for the amount of truth in the link

He'd be in my top four

[willsclarets]

All those who keep going on about wingers.

We’ve a 12 man bench with one natural winger in it today. Only Benson who would play there missing. That’s why we are still after more.

With a front 3, we have Benson, Larsen, Zaroury, Redmond, Koleosho (sp?) then Amdouni and Foster who can also take a wide slot. And then Daramy on top.

I trust VK of course, it just seems a bit mad we're so loaded here with no LB, a very weak CM and if weggy goes, a striker short. And with a fairly big squad. I'm sure it'll come together, and dont get me wrong I'm excited to see them all! If we sign 2 cms, a LB and a striker considering the money we've spent already that's a lot more than I was anticipating!

[davideyresleftear]

Kompany will definitely realise how many wingers are in the squad. It’s not like he’ll turn up to Gawthorpe one morning and be like, “Oh sh1t, I didn’t realise I’d signed so many wingers.”

[willsclarets]

Haha I know that, it's more of a confession i don't know how vk is going to use them tbh

[davideyresleftear]

Haha I know that, it's more of a confession i don't know how vk is going to use them tbh

Yeah I’m interested to find that out as well. It’s a strange feeing going into a season not having a clue how we’re going to play

[CoolClaret]

Must say I am a bit concerned at how unbalanced our squad looks right now considering the money we’ve put in so far.

Still feel like we’re massively overthinking it

[dermotdermot]

Bastien and Weghorst both out the door?

Townsend injured or not singing ?

Yet another vocalist, eh? A couple more and we will have a barbershop quartet.

[scrambledclaret]

My special lady friend's mother is an Ajax season ticket holder and had this to say about Daramy FWIW:

Ok here’s my mothers comments, translated:

Here everyone is raving about Burnley's bid. We can't believe it . It's possible that he does perform in a 2 striker system, as he was used to in Denmark ( also how Burnley plays I think) but in the 3 striker system of Ajax he can't do anything at all. Hurts your eyes.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement but she doesn't even accept that we invented total football

[RVclaret]

Andy Jones confirming deal progressing for Aaron Ramsey for a fee around £12m.

[ervi34]

Yet another Burnley story that Nixon was the first to report on.. And there will still be people saying he never gets anything right.

[RVclaret]

Yet another Burnley story that Nixon was the first to report on.. And there will still be people saying he never gets anything right.

Funny isn’t it

[jedi_master]

Just seen that Weghorst isn’t in the squad today (not following the game as out today). If he is sold/loaned will we be expecting another centre forward? I think we would need something extra there personally if so?

[Hedontplayforyou]

Must say I am a bit concerned at how unbalanced our squad looks right now considering the money we’ve put in so far.

Still feel like we’re massively overthinking it

We don’t have to sign players in a specific order to fill the positions we require . We will get the left back we require etc etc when the deal or player is right

[Steddyman]

For those worried, Phil Bird did state multilple times that both Benson and Cullen are both injured. He never said that of Weghorst though, make of that what you will.

Someone on twitter said Townsend failed his medical, but someone on here said he was warming up with the squad. They can't both be true.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

For those worried, Phil Bird did state multilple times that both Benson and Cullen are both injured. He never said that of Weghorst though, make of that what you will.

Someone on twitter said Townsend failed his medical, but someone on here said he was warming up with the squad. They can't both be true.

Yep conflicting reports on Townsend.

[CoolClaret]

We don’t have to sign players in a specific order to fill the positions we require . We will get the left back we require etc etc when the deal or player is right

Obviously mate but the season starts in less than a week - thankfully now the Luton game has been postponed!

Last year though we didn’t have everyone in we had a lot of our key staples in the team and we got them in early doors- which definitely shortened the time taken to get up to speed with the new system… Cullen, THB, Maatsen, Muric for example.

There’s only 38 games in the PL season, there’s so much riding on each one.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Obviously mate but the season starts in less than a week - thankfully now the Luton game has been postponed!

Last year though we didn’t have everyone in we had a lot of our key staples in the team and we got them in early doors- which definitely shortened the time taken to get up to speed with the new system… Cullen, THB, Maatsen, Muric for example.

There’s only 38 games in the PL season, there’s so much riding on each one.

I don’t get what that poster is saying at all.

Surely you have to prioritise. We are about to go in to a premier league season with our best CM being a 34 year old Jack cork. That’s not a dig at anyone because I think we have done some great business. But we look really unbalanced currently

[Hedontplayforyou]

I don’t get what that poster is saying at all.

Surely you have to prioritise. We are about to go in to a premier league season with our best CM being a 34 year old Jack cork. That’s not a dig at anyone because I think we have done some great business. But we look really unbalanced currently

Some deals are harder to get over the line than others, if we see someone as a priority and know we can get it done but it will take time, are you suggesting we bin that deal and move on down the list?

If we see an opportunity to move for a player we will take it, we can’t/won’t put deals on hold because we need a left back or a central midfielder .

For example if the rumours about the Galatasaraay right back were true and the Turkish club came back to us and said ok we give the green light for price ‘x’ , we wouldn’t put it on hold if we knew the budget or strategy could also stretch to it. Doesn’t mean the hunt for priority positions isn’t still in full motion.

[Pickles]

Naïve to think transfers happen in order of priority. Ideally, yes. But more often than not it just won't work that way. Some transfers are easier to do than others.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Some deals are harder to get over the line than others, if we see someone as a priority and know we can get it done but it will take time, are you suggesting we bin that deal and move on down the list?

If we see an opportunity to move for a player we will take it, we can’t/won’t put deals on hold because we need a left back or a central midfielder .

For example if the rumours about the Galatasaraay right back were true and the Turkish club came back to us and said ok we give the green light for price ‘x’ , we wouldn’t put it on hold if we knew the budget or strategy could also stretch to it. Doesn’t mean the hunt for priority positions isn’t still in full motion.

Yes that makes sense, but surely similar to wingers we have numerous cm and lb targets. Why are we not moving onto them targets as quick as we have from Clarke and Flemming etc….

I don’t understand how we have managed to stockpile wingers whilst being very weak in other positions

[Carwin261]

I don’t get what that poster is saying at all.

Surely you have to prioritise. We are about to go in to a premier league season with our best CM being a 34 year old Jack cork. That’s not a dig at anyone because I think we have done some great business. But we look really unbalanced currently

I think VK will play with 4 of our centre halves against City with one of them pushing slightly further forward than the other 3 ,Ekdal,Beyer O’Shea ,and Al Dakil all good enough to be starting,and all like running forward and carrying the ball.

[Hedontplayforyou]

JBG played out right second half today which suggests we do need someone else in.

If we can get the right mix of players to go in behind with the way Amdouni played we will create a lot

[Pickles]

I don’t understand how we have managed to stockpile wingers whilst being very weak in other positions

We haven't stockpiled wingers. It's a big myth of the summer.

[CoolClaret]

Naïve to think transfers happen in order of priority. Ideally, yes. But more often than not it just won't work that way. Some transfers are easier to do than others.

I don’t think anyone’s really arguing that they happen in order of priority and of course some are easier to do than others.

My argument is in an absolute critical window where we are short in multiple positions, I’d prefer to slightly ‘overpay’ on a player than spending big on a young, relatively unproven goalkeeper etc when we have glaring holes.

It’s all good looking for these sexy picks to buy low and sell high, but there’s a balance to be had.

Think we’re trying to be a bit clever with our business, if honest.

[NewClaret]

For those worried, Phil Bird did state multilple times that both Benson and Cullen are both injured. He never said that of Weghorst though, make of that what you will.

Someone on twitter said Townsend failed his medical, but someone on here said he was warming up with the squad. They can't both be true.

That’s very reassuring about Benson/Cullen. I did watch most of the game but must’ve missed it. Thank for posting.

[ksrclaret]

We haven't stockpiled wingers. It's a big myth of the summer.

If we sign all those were supposedly close with we certainly will have done

Townsend
Daramy
Odobert
Ramsey

And then there’s that Buchanan we’re linked with and even Tella

On top of

Bruun Larsen
Redmond
Koleosho

That’s a stockpile on top of what we already had

[It Is What It Is]

Andy Jones confirming deal progressing for Aaron Ramsey for a fee around £12m.

Just where is all the money coming from for these signings? ....must be close to £70 million plus now and an horrendous wages bill.
Even if it's not up front payments, we have still saddled ourselves with a big financial burden.
Has AP done a deal with the Saudi's!!

[Newcastleclaret93]

We haven't stockpiled wingers. It's a big myth of the summer.

I mean there was 6 out and out wingers in the squad today.

Then there was 3 others that have played on the wings.

That’s a total 9 players in todays squad than can play in two possible positions.

We definitely have an overbalance of forward players in comparison to our 1 lb (that’s Apparantly a CB) and our 3 centre mids

[Pickles]

If we sign all those were supposedly close with we certainly will have done

Townsend
Daramy
Odobert
Ramsey

And then there’s that Buchanan we’re linked with and even Tella

On top of

Bruun Larsen
Redmond
Koleosho

That’s a stockpile on top of what we already had

You've given me a list there and only three of them are Burnley players. We haven't stockpiled wingers.

[123EasyasBFC]

So Townsend hasn’t failed a medical? That Nathan rodgers on twitter yet again spouting rubbish ?

[ksrclaret]

You've given me a list there and only three of them are Burnley players. We haven't stockpiled wingers.

That’s why I said we WILL have stockpiled. We’re supposedly close with the first four I listed.

So there is no myth. People are commenting on what is likely to happen.

[Pickles]

I mean there was 6 out and out wingers in the squad today.

Then there was 3 others that have played on the wings.

That’s a total 9 players in todays squad than can play in two possible positions.

We definitely have an overbalance of forward players in comparison to our 1 lb (that’s Apparantly a CB) and our 3 centre mids

Go on then, I'm intrigued. Who were the six out and out wingers? You're including Gudmundsson in that aren't you? He hasn't been a winger for about two years. And Bruun Larsen isn't an "out and out winger."

And if you're considering Vitinho, Twine and Costelloe as wingers for a Premier League team then that's bonkers.

We have Zaroury, Benson, Koleosho and Redmond. We absolutely need a couple more options.

[CoolClaret]

The obvious business for me was keeping last seasons star boys together as much as possible, picking up a few clever frees/loans/bargain buys (Redmond/Lokonga etc) then splashing out at centre mid.

We were a damned good side last season, didn’t have to change path from that too much - we already showed that we could hang with the big boys, battered Bournemouth and put a good account in away at a very strong United side

[Pickles]

That’s why I said we WILL have stockpiled.

If we sign all the players you've listed. We won't sign all the players you've listed.

[ksrclaret]

If we sign all the players you've listed. We won't sign all the players you've listed.

Glad you can see why people are commenting on a stockpile of wingers now

[Pickles]

We definitely have an overbalance of forward players in comparison to our 1 lb (that’s Apparantly a CB) and our 3 centre mids

Doubt any Burnley fan will argue with you about a left back and a central midfielder being important. I think we need two of each!

[Newcastleclaret93]

Go on then, I'm intrigued. Who were the six out and out wingers? You're including Gudmundsson in that aren't you? He hasn't been a winger for about two years. And Bruun Larsen isn't an "out and out winger."

And if you're considering Vitinho, Twine and Costelloe as wingers for a Premier League team then that's bonkers.

We have Zaroury, Benson, Koleosho and Redmond. We absolutely need a couple more options.

In our squad we have:

Benson, Zaroury, Larsen, Gudmundsson (played nearly his whole career there and the second half today), Redmond, Koleoshi, Costelloe.

We then have the following players that have played on the wing (some of them as recent as last season)

Foster, Amdouni, Twine,

So that’s ten players in our squad of 25 that have played on the wing or currently play on the wing.

But we currently have 1 player that plays left back and 3 that play CM.

I’m not sure how you can say we are not currently unbalanced

[Pickles]

Glad you can see why people are commenting on a stockpile of wingers now

We haven't stockpiled wingers, and we won't stockpile wingers.

[jedi_master]

If we can sign:

Ramsey
Lokonga
Daramy
A left back
A striker if Weghorst leaves

I’ll be absolutely delighted with the business and think our squad would look really quite strong to be honest. I’d have liked Townsend too, so it’s a shame if he has failed his medical.

[ksrclaret]

We haven't stockpiled wingers, and we won't stockpile wingers.

And you were making such progress

[BurnleyFC]

Surely Southampton would be interested in a straight swap of Manchester United regular and Dutch international Wout Weghorst for Nathan Tella?

[Hedontplayforyou]

I know redmond played from the left today but I see him doing the JBG role from last season once fully fit. A lot of rotation as well. Wingers are notoriously hot and cold , the really consistent ones are way out of our reach.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Surely Southampton would be interested in a straight swap of Manchester United regular and Dutch international Wout Weghorst for Nathan Tella?

Na they already have strikers that score goals

[ksrclaret]

Go on then, I'm intrigued. Who were the six out and out wingers? You're including Gudmundsson in that aren't you? He hasn't been a winger for about two years. And Bruun Larsen isn't an "out and out winger."

And if you're considering Vitinho, Twine and Costelloe as wingers for a Premier League team then that's bonkers.

We have Zaroury, Benson, Koleosho and Redmond. We absolutely need a couple more options.

Larsen is a winger every day of the week

[Pickles]

In our squad we have:

Benson, Zaroury, Larsen, Gudmundsson (played nearly his whole career there and the second half today), Redmond, Koleoshi, Costelloe.

We then have the following players that have played on the wing (some of them as recent as last season)

Foster, Amdouni, Twine,

So that’s ten players in our squad of 25 that have played on the wing or currently play on the wing.

But we currently have 1 player that plays left back and 3 that play CM.

I’m not sure how you can say we are not currently unbalanced

I haven't said we're not unbalanced.

I'm saying we haven't stockpiled wingers. It's bizarre that someone like yourself, who clearly watches a lot of football, is considering Costelloe, Vitinho, Gudmundsson and Twine as consistent winger options in the Premier League. Because it's obvious Kompany won't. One of them played for Bradford City and the other three barely played as wingers last season in the league below.

Foster has been played as a striker all preseason and previous to coming to Burnley. Last season he didn't play as a winger in the same way as Zaroury and Benson did - which is what we're lacking.

Bruun Larsen is a winger but can play centrally and deeper and it isn't obvious where he'll play yet.

So - that leaves Redmond, Koleosho, Zaroury, an injured Benson and Amdouni who plays as a ten or off the striker and who isn't really a winger.

We haven't stockpiled wingers.