Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Carlos the Great]

West Ham are looking at Brownhill for midfield cover and I think are hoping steal him for about 8 million … I really hope he stays and signs a new contract .: be a big loss

[Spindles]

Don't get the thinking on this thread re Brownhill. How are we getting 20 million for him when we don't think he's good enough but we can replace him with someone better easily for 12 million.
We've just bought berge for around 12 who is significantly better apparently. Absolutely mental talk. If he is as bad as people say we won't get 5 for him.

[burnley007]

£10m would seem a decent price.

[quoonbeatz]

Don't get the thinking on this thread re Brownhill. How are we getting 20 million for him when we don't think he's good enough but we can replace him with someone better easily for 12 million.
We've just bought berge for around 12 who is significantly better apparently. Absolutely mental talk. If he is as bad as people say we won't get 5 for him.

This your first time on one of these transfer threads?

[Swizzlestick]

The LB Fernandez we had a link to available for 7m, I would pay that for him over paying 15m+ for Maatsen

He was just ok for PNE, and that's the level below.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I just can’t see it.

File in papertalk nonsense.

You’ve never seen it with him though, apart from when he first arrived and you gushed over him a little

Then you turned into a spurned lover type person with your hatred of him

I’ll file something in nonsense and it won’t be what the papers say

[JohnDearyMe]

You’ve never seen it with him though, apart from when he first arrived and you gushed over him a little

Then you turned into a spurned lover type person with your hatred of him

I’ll file something in nonsense and it won’t be what the papers say

I think there was a regrettable incident with an autograph book

[Elizabeth]

I’d hate to see Brownhill go without getting the chance to see what he’s like second time around. He had a little purple patch at home against Liverpool and another top side very close together where he bossed the game for a good spell. If he can do that once he can do that more regularly now with the extra experience .
If he has to go for club reasons I hope he gets a great deal elsewhere.

[Claret53]

I suggest that anyone who doesn’t rate Brownhill should look at the reel of last season’s goals on Clarets+. He scored and made good goals. He’s obviously a good team man. He has energy. I just can’t see how an objective evaluation of him could come out with anything other than good marks all round.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I suggest that anyone who doesn’t rate Brownhill should look at the reel of last season’s goals on Clarets+. He scored and made good goals. He’s obviously a good team man. He has energy. I just can’t see how an objective evaluation of him could come out with anything other than good marks all round.

Newcastle rates Brownhill in the championship, just doesn’t rate him in the PL where he played in several different positions during the Dyche era and during a time when our aging squad was underinvested and playing the usual stuff

[FCBurnley]

I was amazed that Brownhill didn’t play v City plus he didn’t look happy when he came on late in the game.
Also no agreement with Arsenal re Lokonga according to BBC

[IanMcL]

Oh dear. Fingers crossed.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2023/08/14/b ... e-hi-jack/

[Stockbrokerbelt]

I live 2 hours away from Seville & they are up xxxx creek regarding finances, also rumours of an investigation regarding fraud but fraud can mean different things in Spain, it could just mean that they owe transfer fees.?

[equinox]

Brownhill

He had a little purple patch at home against Liverpool and another top side very close together where he bossed the game for a good spell.

He really didn't.

[123EasyasBFC]

I was amazed that Brownhill didn’t play v City plus he didn’t look happy when he came on late in the game.
Also no agreement with Arsenal re Lokonga according to BBC

Andy jones said on twitter brownhill had been nursing a knock

[davideyresleftear]

Don't get the thinking on this thread re Brownhill. How are we getting 20 million for him when we don't think he's good enough but we can replace him with someone better easily for 12 million.
We've just bought berge for around 12 who is significantly better apparently. Absolutely mental talk. If he is as bad as people say we won't get 5 for him.

Although I agree he’s not going for 20mill, all transfers have to be taken in their own context. Sheff Utd needed to sell Berge because they’re financially stuffed and he was in the last year of his contract. We’re not financially stuffed (as far as I know) and we’ve got an extra years option on Brownhill. Plus, we know West Ham have the Rice money so we can tell them we want 20 or gtfo of here. Whereas we seem to be getting a reputation for ‘that’s too much, we’re moving onto the next target.’

[warksclaret]

Would rather see all of Jay, JBG, Cork and Bastian go before Josh, who played nearly every game for us last year, and well enough for VK to make him captain. We need however to play him an advanced midfield rather than a defensive one. His pressing qualities are excellent. If there is any talk of him going I think Dyche would try to buy him

[FeedTheArf]

Brownhill to West Ham smacks of agent talk trying to get an extra few quid negotiating his new contract with us. There’s no way he goes to West Ham, for a number of reasons.

[Commy]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... n-forward/

Bayer Leverkusen after Tella.

[Eyesofblue2]

Would rather see all of Jay, JBG, Cork and Bastian go before Josh, who played nearly every game for us last year, and well enough for VK to make him captain. We need however to play him an advanced midfield rather than a defensive one. His pressing qualities are excellent. If there is any talk of him going I think Dyche would try to buy him

I felt certain that Sean would be in for him at the back end of the January window, but it never happened.

[warksclaret]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... n-forward/

Bayer Leverkusen after Tella.

Caiecedo of Brighton proved at the weekend that you dont automatically have to go to the highest bidder. Tella might want to play for VK and us again if it came down to two clubs

[Commy]

Caiecedo of Brighton proved at the weekend that you dont automatically have to go to the highest bidder. Tella might want to play for VK and us again if it came down to two clubs

We aren't offering the money they want though.

[Elizabeth]

He really didn't.

Then you don’t know what you are talking about , fair enough?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Newcastle rates Brownhill in the championship, just doesn’t rate him in the PL where he played in several different positions during the Dyche era and during a time when our aging squad was underinvested and playing the usual stuff

Regardless of the position technical ability doesn’t change.

Brownhill is a good grafter but that’s about it at this level. Thank him for his service and move on to bigger better things.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Then you don’t know what you are talking about , fair enough?

To be fair Elizabeth you thought Twine was going to be a key player this season. I wouldn’t exactly say your judgement is great of midfielders

[Commy]

To be fair Elizabeth you thought Twine was going to be a key player this season. I wouldn’t exactly say your judgement is great of midfielders

Not the only one as I also thought Twine would be a big player this season.

[Elizabeth]

To be fair Elizabeth you thought Twine was going to be a key player this season. I wouldn’t exactly say your judgement is great of midfielders

Nothing fair about that Newcastle and you know that was a cheap shot

[Newcastleclaret93]

Nothing fair about that Newcastle and you know that was a cheap shot

Tbf it was tongue in cheek, your comment was also a bit harsh to Equinox

[claretlegend]

Have it on very good authority that Brownhill is down talking to West Ham today.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Have it on very good authority that Brownhill is down talking to West Ham today.

His brothers tweets seems to suggest otherwise

[Elizabeth]

Tbf it was tongue in cheek, your comment was also a bit harsh to Equinox

Ok.
I don’t think it’s harsh to respond like that to someone being contradictory for the sake of it

[Silkyskills1]

To be fair Elizabeth you thought Twine was going to be a key player this season. I wouldn’t exactly say your judgement is great of midfielders

Anyone looking for a perfect example of patronising need look no further than this comment. Unnecessary, crude and arrogant. Who the hell do you think you are talking in such a manner on this board? Absolutely unbelievable.

[Robbie_painter]

To be fair Elizabeth you thought Twine was going to be a key player this season. I wouldn’t exactly say your judgement is great of midfielders

To be fair Newcastle the way you pap on about Brownhill I would trust Elizabeth’s judgement over yours every day of the week.

[boyyanno]

Anyone looking for a perfect example of patronising need look no further than this comment. Unnecessary, crude and arrogant. Who the hell do you think you are talking in such a manner on this board? Absolutely unbelievable.

Let's just offer a bit of fair balance. Elizabeth also posted a pretty inflammatory comment. I'm not advocating either post or defending either poster but if you're going to highlight one person then you should highlight all.

[Swizzlestick]

Newcastle rates Brownhill in the championship, just doesn’t rate him in the PL where he played in several different positions during the Dyche era and during a time when our aging squad was underinvested and playing the usual stuff

He was up for selling him last summer too!

[123EasyasBFC]

His brother seems to of taken it to heart a little on twitter

[Newcastleclaret93]

Anyone looking for a perfect example of patronising need look no further than this comment. Unnecessary, crude and arrogant. Who the hell do you think you are talking in such a manner on this board? Absolutely unbelievable.

Keep your pants on Silky I have already said it was a toungue cheek comment on the back her post to someone else.

No harm meant

[Newcastleclaret93]

His brother seems to of taken it to heart a little on twitter

He always does to be fair. Every now and then when he sees derogatory comments he goes on a bit of rant

[Vegas Claret]

came on here to see if there were any updates, usual chaos. Pointless

[quoonbeatz]

Have it on very good authority that Brownhill is down talking to West Ham today.

I've seen him in Manchester today so that seems unlikely.

[Kevwando]

His brothers tweets seems to suggest otherwise

Which tweet suggests otherwise?

[RVclaret]

Bournemouth agreed a fee for Tyler Adams from Leeds for £20m. They are making some serious moves and building a very strong team.

[randomclaret2]

Bournemouth agreed a fee for Tyler Adams from Leeds for £20m. They are making some serious moves and building a very strong team.

....unlike Leeds

[Silkyskills1]

Keep your pants on Silky I have already said it was a toungue cheek comment on the back her post to someone else.

No harm meant

And still you continue with your glib, vacuuous., inane comments. I read what you said back to her.You knew you'd blundered but still.attempted a smarmy, pathetic comment. It's a football opinions board for god 's sake and certainly doesn't require people looking down their noses at others' comments.

[Newcastleclaret93]

And still you continue with your glib, vacuuous., inane comments. I read what you said back to her.You knew you'd blundered but still.attempted a smarmy, pathetic comment. It's a football opinions board for god 's sake and certainly doesn't require people looking down their noses at others' comments.

Haha calm down. I get worse comments than that every day on this board

[Claret Alfie]

Bournemouth agreed a fee for Tyler Adams from Leeds for £20m. They are making some serious moves and building a very strong team.

He must be fuming thinking he was going to Chelsea and now he’s at Bournemouth great signing for Bournemouth.

[LaLigaClaret]

I said at the end of last season that I thought Josh Brownhill might be sold in order to raise cash for transfers and the seeming delay over him agreeing a new contract only enhanced that thought. However selling him in our current situation I don't think would make good sense especially given the obtuse machinations regarding Lakonga and Ramsay. Unless we are going to receive a generous offer for him and there is an obvious replacement definitely nailed on I don't see the sense in it.

I was shocked he wasn't a starter against Man City. I am also surprised regarding the Twine situation. Burnley, Alan Pace and VK had a fantastic transfer market last summer and this transfer window also seemed at first glance to be really positive with links to all sorts of players. However I think some questions do need to be raised as there are some obvious issues regarding our squad.

1. The world and his wife easily identified that the club needed to either get permanent deals for those that had been on loan with us or to bring in other replacements. Maatsen hasn't materialised, Tella hasn't materialised and THB was replaced by O'Shea. Obifemi is currently injured.

2. Again virtually all posters recognised we needed upgrades in midfield, another LB and a goal scoring striker. The striker position requirement increased when Barnes left, Jay Rod might be an issue in the PL, Foster firing blanks and Obifemi crocked. Tella is looking increasingly more and more unlikely. Weghorst has gone on loan. The LB situation is a major priority with Coulibaly falling over, Maatsen not looking likely, Fernandes and Gomes not looking likely. We are currently not in a good place at LB with no ther links except a hint at Haartman but he is sought by a number of other clubs. Midfield upgrades look a bit doubtful, Lakonga messing about, Ramsay situation a bit weird and no other links at present.

3. We seem to be struggling in bringing in players in those areas seen as the priority yet bringing in loads of wide players that can't possibly all play and the sheer number of them must make selection quite difficult.

4. James Trafford I am sure will be a fantastic GK yet was paying £19m for him really a priority over securing the LB's, Striker, Midfielders and Tella each of whom we have offered less for linked players than for Trafford.

5. We have loaned out players that we clearly have no intention of keeping as they are nearing the end of their contracts where we might have obtained a small fee for them. I don't see much point in keeping what will be likely benchwarmers this season especially as they will be receiving a wage.

6. Last season signing lots of young players worked out brilliantly and their value will likely increase but I am not sure signing lots of speculative youngsters is going to work so well in the PL especially as we have so many players to pick from, a number of which seem pretty similar but lack experience at such a high level.

It seems increasingly difficult for us to get players over the line lately.

The team selection against Man City was a bit strange to say the least. Why play Berge when he was signed at the last minute with virtually no time to bed in with the other players, formation, game plan etc, yet leaving Brown hill on the bench ? Why was Zaroury and Benson on the bench. Why play 5 players new to the team.

I was excited and happy when Lakonga was linked but now my opinion is changing. Is it an injury holding things up or is it as perception is growing that he is waiting for a better offer ? This is going on too long now, if it is not the injury then we should move on because we will look foolish if he finally goes elsewhere while we are hanging on desperately for his agreement. He either want PL football with us or he doesn't. We have made our offer so it should now be take it or leave it.

We need to go and get decent LB's, midfield upgrades and another striker which was the case at the end of May earlier this year.

[ksrclaret]

Looks like Villa have agreed a deal to sign an attacking mid to compensate for Buendia being out long term.

I wonder if that might allow Ramsey to be announced now? Can’t think what else might be holding it up.

[CoolClaret]

Bournemouth agreed a fee for Tyler Adams from Leeds for £20m. They are making some serious moves and building a very strong team.

We should be all over that

[ksrclaret]

Yes Bournemouth are building a strong looking team.

Not good for us really but I suppose we don’t know how either side will perform regularly.