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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by burnley007 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:33 am

Hipper wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:28 am
What's this all about?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 01210.html
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Post by dermotdermot » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:38 am

claretandy wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:58 am
Spurs have turned down a loan move for Eric dier.
Thank God!
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by TsarBomba » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:38 am

Socrates wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:23 am
They’ve only got him at that price as part of the Nunes deal.

It will be to do with Wolves FFP. They’ll be limited in what they can spend.
Ah, didn’t think of that, makes sense.

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Post by TsarBomba » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:41 am

burnleymik wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:54 am
this account has 33k followers. No idea about the player though

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He was one of the stars for Morocco in their run to the WC semi final. Went to Marseille off the back of it.
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Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:42 am

dermotdermot wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:38 am
Thank God!
Out of his depth for England maybe, but a better centre half than any we have.

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Post by nil_desperandum » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:43 am

dermotdermot wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:38 am
Thank God!
Really?
So you don't think a player of Dier's quality and experience would add something to our squad?
(Not the greatest player to win an England cap, obviously, but an established PL player who has been on the periphery of the England squad for about a decade).
Edit: Also just thought - he could play CB as well as midfield, so could provide cover the Ekdal and Beyer injuries.
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Post by Fretters » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:43 am

Spijed wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:42 am
Out of his depth for England maybe, but a better centre half than any we have.
Also the holding midfielder we're crying out for.
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Post by dermotdermot » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:43 am

Spijed wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:42 am
Out of his depth for England maybe, but a better centre half than any we have.
I beg to differ.

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Post by Fretters » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:44 am

LDNBFC87 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:53 am
Where have you got the IM and KP medicals information from? Amazing if true
Read the full post properly :lol:
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Post by LDNBFC87 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:44 am

Fretters wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:44 am
Read the full post properly :lol:
Yep, my mistake - wishful reading! :lol:
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Post by ervi34 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:48 am

Bakayoko likely to stay at PSV.

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Post by Anthonini » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:50 am

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:19 am
Couldn’t care less to be honest. His career before last season looks pretty insipid on paper and it seemingly took him a year in a far poorer league to start making any impact, how long would it have taken him to adapt to this level?

If he has no faith in himself and would rather mess about playing in front of 15 men and a dog at a lot of fixtures that’s his prerogative, he’s clearly not got the ambition and heart that is required for the battle we’ve got ahead of us. Forget about him and let’s see who we get instead.

Agreed. He should have been on that airport 3 hours early watching the clock tick with excitement. You got alot of words for it but it surely isn't a manly move.

This makes me nervous about Bakayoko, would it be the same story as with his countrymen?

I find all this very weird as I would expect them all to really want to play for Kompany. Verbruggen included. Him going to Brighton was something I never expected.

A bit disappointing as well, makes me doubt their loyalty towards the manager who I thought was rated more highly by them.

Perhaps we should listen to what Antwerp wants for Vermeeren as a perfect midfielder. Check out his assist on the winning goal Vs AEK Athens yesterday, there's also Butez who we were interested in and Balikwisha who I rate higher than Paintsil)

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Post by Tall Paul » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:55 am

lol at anyone turning their nose up at Eric Dier.

No wonder there are unrealistic expectations if they think he's not good enough for us.
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Post by colne-claret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:56 am

Eric Dier would be a great signing imo. Valuable experience and versatility.
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Post by Anthonini » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:57 am

summitclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:21 am
We can have 1 loan from City. Would you want THB, Gomez or Philips?

Tough one, but Philips, because he is an excellent holding cm and can play cb. However, I could also see THB in both roles. As for left back, I still live in hope of a IM loan.

Doubt Taylor will be going anywhere atm.
I'd take Gomez, such a complete player than can fill in almost any position and will do what the coach asks of him. Technically a joy to watch, reminding me of a mix of Iniesta and KDB. Lovely tight crosses, great vision with good passing, can dribble, good first touch, overall intelligent player. Can be used as inverted wingback, defensive midfielder, wingback, both offensive wings. Would make a great 8 or number 10 as well. He'd be perfect for the versatile tactics Kompany uses and add lots of quality and creativity.
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Post by burnley007 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:59 am

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:57 am
I'd take Gomez, such a complete player than can fill in almost any position and will do what the coach asks of him. Technically a joy to watch, reminding me of a mix of Iniesta and KDB. Lovely tight crosses, great vision with good passing, can dribble, good first touch, overall intelligent player. Can be used as inverted wingback, defensive midfielder, wingback, both offensive wings. Would make a great 8 or number 10 as well. He'd be perfect for the versatile tactics Kompany uses and add lots of quality and creativity.
He sounds like a great prospect. But is he available?

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:08 am

Dierbolical? Is this a windup?Delcroix or O'Shea is good cover

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Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:08 am

Looking at the highlights Maatsen seemed to have a good game for Chelsea

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Post by Carport » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:10 am

LDNBFC87 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:53 am
Where have you got the IM and KP medicals information from? Amazing if true
Suggest you re read this. They aren’t having Medicals
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Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:20 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:59 am
Makes sense, you don't loan or sell to a rival. (Tongue firmly in cheek).
Why tongue in cheek? We aren't that much bigger and better than Spurs.

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Post by Rileybobs » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:24 am

When people claim ‘agent talk’ do they realise that agents work for the players and therefore any statements released to the press will have been almost certainly approved by the players?

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Post by Anthonini » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:25 am

burnley007 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:59 am
He sounds like a great prospect. But is he available?
He should be available but heard he really would love to go for his chances at Man City, due to the transfer of Gvardiol and City playing without real wingbacks it seems like it will be almost impossible to get into that team.

If he gets a loan transfer it would be a good step to come to Burnley. Vinnie already knows him well and rates him highly.
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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:29 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:53 am
We are apparently having to be careful around FFP (unsurprisingly) which a few journos have reported as a reason for our recent deal structures.
I find that almost impossible to believe this season - It could be a problem if the Premier League brought in UEFA style sustainability rules going forward

On a 3 season rolling view

2021/22 - allowable loss £35m - actual was a profit of £36m (net £71m in the FFP kitty as it were)
2022/23 - allowable loss £13m - actual unknown (note most player sales were in previous reporting period) plenty of players in and the MSD debt clearance/refinance and apparently a paying down of the November 2022 loan by around £7m (at least) - note there was an MSD pay down in August 2022 which is likely to be around £14.5m+
2023/24 - allowable loss £35m

in terms of transfer fees only the amortisation cost is considered for FFP
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:30 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:24 am
When people claim ‘agent talk’ do they realise that agents work for the players and therefore any statements released to the press will have been almost certainly approved by the players?
WHAT!!
As the player says “talk to my agent”.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:32 am

Eric Dier would be an excellent signing
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Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:36 am

Isn't Dier on the radar of Bayern and Dortmund?

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Post by whiffa » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:39 am

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:38 am
Nice to see you’re still praying VK and this team fails because it isn’t Dyche and the boys.
You do realise it's posts like this that completely derail the thread and are uncalled for, he's allowed an opinion. Shut up will you.
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Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:40 am

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:38 am
Nice to see you’re still praying VK and this team fails because it isn’t Dyche and the boys.
?????????

I'm completely lost by your comments.
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:45 am

Well I’m a yes so maybe all is not lost. This from sky.
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Post by Firthy » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:49 am

My prediction is that it's going to be a bloody long day tomorrow :lol: :lol:
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Post by burnley007 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:54 am

Firthy wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:49 am
My prediction is that it's going to be a bloody long day tomorrow :lol: :lol:
Hopefully a productive one...(that involves a bloody left back!!)

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Post by ArmchairDetective » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:03 pm

Don't let the big six and national team media circus fool you into thinking Eric Dier wouldn't be a good signing for us. He's played the holding role/cb for years for England and Spurs. He could certainly do a job for us.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:03 pm

Tresor / paintsil
Daka
Massango
Dier
Maatsen

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Post by Firthy » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:06 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:03 pm
Tresor / paintsil
Daka
Massango
Dier
Maatsen
None of the above.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:06 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:29 am
I find that almost impossible to believe this season - It could be a problem if the Premier League brought in UEFA style sustainability rules going forward

On a 3 season rolling view

2021/22 - allowable loss £35m - actual was a profit of £36m (net £71m in the FFP kitty as it were)
2022/23 - allowable loss £13m - actual unknown (note most player sales were in previous reporting period) plenty of players in and the MSD debt clearance/refinance and apparently a paying down of the November 2022 loan by around £7m (at least) - note there was an MSD pay down in August 2022 which is likely to be around £14.5m+
2023/24 - allowable loss £35m

in terms of transfer fees only the amortisation cost is considered for FFP
I agree but several overseas journos have stated it.

There is also January if we need to sell players so for various reasons I would like to think we still have flexibility.

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Post by jlup1980 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:08 pm

Some people on here need to give their head a wobble.

The fact we're even looking at the likes of Origi and Dier speaks volumes about what we are trying to achieve. These two are 28 and 29 and would offer a huge amount to our club. It's a far cry from signing the likes of Steven Reid and Dale Stephens to add experience.

It's been a remarkable turnaround in the last 18 months, absolutely remarkable!
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:11 pm

Firthy wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:06 pm
None of the above.
You don’t think we will sign any of the above?

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Post by burnley007 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:13 pm

jlup1980 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:08 pm
Some people on here need to give their head a wobble.

The fact we're even looking at the likes of Origi and Dier speaks volumes about what we are trying to achieve. These two are 28 and 29 and would offer a huge amount to our club. It's a far cry from signing the likes of Steven Reid and Dale Stephens to add experience.

It's been a remarkable turnaround in the last 18 months, absolutely remarkable!
agreed 100%, we are looking in a completely different pool to where we normally look (Stoke!)
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Post by KRBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:15 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:40 am
?????????

I'm completely lost by your comments.
I just find your switch up quite baffling, not a negative word to say when Dyche was here now he’s gone you don’t have a positive thing to say.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:19 pm

Going from bad to worse
🚨|-Divock Origi has rejected a move to Burnley

They have also explored the possibility of signing Patson Daka from Leicester, but that also appears unlikely at this stage.

[@JasonBourne1986]🥇

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:22 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:17 am
I checked in last night as soon as I saw Sacha Tavolieri break the news about the Tresor deal being off. My guy only found out during the game last night that Tresor hadn’t travelled. Don’t know whether VK would have known before the game or found out after.

Told to expect a few more. Daka from Leicester loan with an option and Massengo on a free (though Bristol will be due some compo due to his age)

Not got any other names yet and whether the Tresor deal falling through and the Ekdal injury leads to us looking at other players I don’t yet know.
How confident was your source on Daka, reports on talksport saying it’s unlikely

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Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:23 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:15 pm
I just find your switch up quite baffling, not a negative word to say when Dyche was here now he’s gone you don’t have a positive thing to say.
Again, I'm completely lost as I've not said anything negative regarding our players in my comments. But as others have said it'll just derail the thread if it carries on so we should just leave it there.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:25 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:03 pm
Tresor / paintsil
Daka
Massango
Dier
Maatsen
It’s gone awfully quiet on the left back front

I really hope we can get one

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Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:25 pm

Eric Dier would be an outstanding signing for us.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:28 pm

After the tresor news last night and now the potential Daka and origi news it’s beginning to feel very much like the end of transfer windows have in the past and as dyche would say ‘go with what we’ve got’

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Post by BigChaCha » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:33 pm

So we have literally hours left in the transfer window and have spent over 100m, yet...

From our peak last season...

We are weaker and have less leadership in defence overall...

Are far weaker at left-back...

Have not upgraded or backed up Connor Roberts...

Have only added one attacking central midfielder...

Have not strengthened the deep-lying central midfield...

Have not found back-up to Benson, who struggled to get into the team from the start at times in the Championship...

Have fewer strikers...

Have less pace, goal threat and control with not replacing Maatsen and Tella...

But don't worry, apparently, it's all part of the plan! :roll:

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Post by eastcoastclaret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:35 pm

Joseph Brown
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3m
🟣 Final bid has gone in for #SAFC winger Jack Clarke in the region of £15m from Burnley this morning.

They believe they can strike a deal before the deadline tomorrow

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Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:38 pm

Anybody else picture Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh when you imagine what's going on in some posters heads
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Post by CnBtruntru » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:40 pm

Well I'm feeling optimistic for this season, we just need 3 teams out of 19 to finish below us and with 36 games left we have 2 there now ;) I do think if we had beat City or Villa a couple of these transfers would have come off, expect they will be thinking they don't want a dog fight at the bottom 😭

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by LongsideClaret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:42 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:19 pm
Going from bad to worse
🚨|-Divock Origi has rejected a move to Burnley

They have also explored the possibility of signing Patson Daka from Leicester, but that also appears unlikely at this stage.

[@JasonBourne1986]🥇
I’m hearing news on he contrary…
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