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Post by Ric_C » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:03 pm

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/stat ... h6kVg&s=19

Cucurella deal to utd now off. Gives us more of a chance with maatsen.

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Post by Claretprinter » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:03 pm

Massengo done deal according to BBC

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Post by CnBtruntru » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:04 pm

Massengo signed as per site

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Post by LongsideClaret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:05 pm

claretlegend wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:46 pm
Daka and Origi? Surely we don't need both do we?
Just like to add I’m only reporting what I’ve been told. I also find it mad that we would be going for both Daka and Origi.

Regarding Maatsen I’ve heard nothing at all to suggest that it could happen. However, I think we will try again. Curcurella staying out helps massively. I also can’t believe we will end up closing the window without utilising any prem loans. Surely we try for Maatsen or Gomez tomorrow.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:07 pm

Surely if we go for both strikers then Jay leaves? Maybe even Obafemi in January?

Or just a case of spinning plates

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Post by Ric_C » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:08 pm

Bakayoko has rejected Brentford

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Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:10 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:08 pm
Bakayoko has rejected Brentford
Wants to play for Vinny…





(Or in the Champions League…)

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:12 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:05 pm
Just like to add I’m only reporting what I’ve been told. I also find it mad that we would be going for both Daka and Origi.

Regarding Maatsen I’ve heard nothing at all to suggest that it could happen. However, I think we will try again. Curcurella staying out helps massively. I also can’t believe we will end up closing the window without utilising any prem loans. Surely we try for Maatsen or Gomez tomorrow.
I agree. Maybe the loans will be Maatsen/Gomez and Lokonga…..
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Post by Steddyman » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:12 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:08 pm
Bakayoko has rejected Brentford
Wants to come to Burnley for less.

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Post by Steddyman » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:13 pm

Also means they may turn to Tresor instead.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:13 pm

If we get tresor, Daka and origi then we wouldn’t be able to get Maatsen on loan because it would be our 4 loan players including Larsen

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:13 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:04 pm
Massengo signed as per site
Don't know much about this lad, but wish him all the best.

Seeing how prompt the reveal video came out, and the fact I hadn't heard of a link till yesterday, it sounds like one of those that has been going on for a long while under the radar.

Here's hoping there are a few others under the radar.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:19 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:13 pm
If we get tresor, Daka and origi then we wouldn’t be able to get Maatsen on loan because it would be our 4 loan players including Larsen
Are you sure the limitation isn’t more to do with the number in your match day squad? And isn’t it 5 loans in your match day 20 players?

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Post by Nori1958 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:26 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:13 pm
Don't know much about this lad, but wish him all the best.

Seeing how prompt the reveal video came out, and the fact I hadn't heard of a link till yesterday, it sounds like one of those that has been going on for a long while under the radar.

Here's hoping there are a few others under the radar.
Our interest was reported in may
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Post by colne-claret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:28 pm

I might be wrong but I thought that the loan rules were as follows:

2 players allowed to be loaned from English clubs (only 1 player from a club though)
2 more can be registered in January if the first two are removed from registration.
Foreign loans don’t have the same restrictions and we can loan up to 7 players in total (max of 2 from English clubs at the same time).

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Post by Benson » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:29 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:00 pm
Any news on potential outgoings?

We are surely going to need to trim the squad a little - keep the wage bill down, bring some money in, ensure players are getting game time etc.
Marcel Lewis out on loan to Dundee until January.
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Post by TsarBomba » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:31 pm

https://x.com/sportspeteo/status/169734 ... Gkg4Pp-4vg

Jack Clarke and his camp seemingly unhappy that he wasn’t allowed to move on this window.

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Post by Carwin261 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:36 pm

We’re going to have flaireist team in flairsville.

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:43 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:51 pm
Burnley made 20m offer for Summerville at leeds

They rejected it out of hand
Tell me why
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:45 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:19 pm
Are you sure the limitation isn’t more to do with the number in your match day squad? And isn’t it 5 loans in your match day 20 players?
No we had this last night, it’s simple really, 2 loans from prem and 2 more from any other league in the world

The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:46 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:28 pm
I might be wrong but I thought that the loan rules were as follows:

2 players allowed to be loaned from English clubs (only 1 player from a club though)
2 more can be registered in January if the first two are removed from registration.
Foreign loans don’t have the same restrictions and we can loan up to 7 players in total (max of 2 from English clubs at the same time).
Incorrect this is from the premier league website
The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:47 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:43 pm
Tell me why
Why
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Post by ClaretFelix » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:51 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:46 pm
Incorrect this is from the premier league website
The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.

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Post by Firthy » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:51 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:43 pm
Tell me why
Great song from Hard Days Night album :D
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Post by ClaretFelix » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:54 pm

I'd read it as no more than 4 domestic loans per season. 2 per window, as long as the 2 from the first window are removed and replaced.

There is a maximum of 7 loans in and 7 loans out per season too, which makes the Chelsea splurge all the more baffling as quite a lot of the young prospects will have to play for the U23s as opposed to be farmed out to an affiliate on loan, as used to be the case.

It's probably why City are selling their young prospects with reasonable buy back clauses if they prove their worth elsewhere

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:56 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:54 pm
I'd read it as no more than 4 domestic loans per season. 2 per window, as long as the 2 from the first window are removed and replaced.

There is a maximum of 7 loans in and 7 loans out per season too, which makes the Chelsea splurge all the more baffling as quite a lot of the young prospects will have to play for the U23s as opposed to be farmed out to an affiliate on loan, as used to be the case.

It's probably why City are selling their young prospects with reasonable buy back clauses if they prove their worth elsewhere
So you read it as in the summer window you can have 2 loans from English clubs and 5 from abroad, then in Jan you can change your 2 from domestic and any of the 5 from abroad?

Maybe you are right, if you are I stand corrected

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Post by Holtyclaret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:58 pm

‘Tell me why’

Ain’t nothing but a heartache

I want it that way

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:59 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:54 pm
I'd read it as no more than 4 domestic loans per season. 2 per window, as long as the 2 from the first window are removed and replaced.

There is a maximum of 7 loans in and 7 loans out per season too, which makes the Chelsea splurge all the more baffling as quite a lot of the young prospects will have to play for the U23s as opposed to be farmed out to an affiliate on loan, as used to be the case.

It's probably why City are selling their young prospects with reasonable buy back clauses if they prove their worth elsewhere
City and Chelsea have been flogging academy players because it’s good for FFP

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Post by ClaretFelix » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:02 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:56 pm
So you read it as in the summer window you can have 2 loans from English clubs and 5 from abroad, then in Jan you can change your 2 from domestic and any of the 5 from abroad?

Maybe you are right, if you are I stand corrected
Yes something along those lines. Obviously the 2 domestic loans can't be from the same team either.
I think it's down from 8 on loan to 7, and maximum of 5 in the matchday squad.

Seem to recall Fulham having quite a few in on loan??

I stand to be corrected, it's far too confusing

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Post by Firthy » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:05 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:51 pm
Burnley made 20m offer for Summerville at leeds

They rejected it out of hand
I'm sure he'll be happy playing for a mid table Championship team rather than in the Premier League.

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Post by Dougall » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:05 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:43 pm
Tell me why
…why we never replaced John Deary?!!😳

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Post by colne-claret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:07 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:54 pm
I'd read it as no more than 4 domestic loans per season. 2 per window, as long as the 2 from the first window are removed and replaced.

There is a maximum of 7 loans in and 7 loans out per season too, which makes the Chelsea splurge all the more baffling as quite a lot of the young prospects will have to play for the U23s as opposed to be farmed out to an affiliate on loan, as used to be the case.

It's probably why City are selling their young prospects with reasonable buy back clauses if they prove their worth elsewhere
This. Premier league website however isn’t very clear, shock.

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:11 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:58 pm
‘Tell me why’

Ain’t nothing but a heartache

I want it that way
I was thinking more Jimmy Somerville but that works well too!
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Post by Firthy » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:20 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:11 pm
I was thinking more Jimmy Somerville but that works well too!
Don't Leave Me This Way

Never Can Say Goodbye

Ain't Necessarily So

You Make Me Feel

Disenchanted

Do They Know It's Christmas

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Post by St Austell Claret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:35 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:47 pm
Why
Won't you tell me why?

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Post by ClaretInLeeds » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:37 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:32 pm
Tresor back on....!!!!

http://sportwitness.co.uk/burnley-find- ... al-friday/
Why’s nobody mentioned this development?
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Post by dermotdermot » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:40 pm

What happened to the final bid for Clarke at Sunderland yesterday? I haven't read that it was turned down anywhere.

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Post by whiffa » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:43 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:40 pm
What happened to the final bid for Clarke at Sunderland yesterday? I haven't read that it was turned down anywhere.
https://twitter.com/SportsPeteO/status/ ... 8618118250

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:53 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:43 pm
Tell me why
Pushed around kicked around he was a lonely boy?
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Post by Commy » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:57 pm

He might want to leave as Sunderland look to be selling players. Might think they have no chance this season.
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Post by Swizzlestick » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:01 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:40 pm
What happened to the final bid for Clarke at Sunderland yesterday? I haven't read that it was turned down anywhere.
We didn’t make one yesterday, fake news.

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Post by warksclaret » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:11 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:37 pm
Why’s nobody mentioned this development?
Lets hope so

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:20 pm

Tell me why?

I don’t like Mondays.
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Post by yatesybase » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:39 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:32 pm
Tresor back on....!!!!

http://sportwitness.co.uk/burnley-find- ... al-friday/
Possible Private jet arrival today at Manchester, It's a larger Bizjet than normal footballers use normally Citations ,Pheonoms and Challengers , but the Legacy is a long range one , But he might have a lot of stuff to bring over 😉
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Post by dsr » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:39 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:46 pm
Incorrect this is from the premier league website
The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
You missed a line out in that quote, or else whoever you quoted missed the line out, hence the confusion.

https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747

"Under the rules in the Premier League Handbook 2022/23 (Download PDF, size: 16MB), there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs.

They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club."


The bolded bit emphasises that the four max is only from other English clubs. This particular article doesn't talk about loans from abroad.
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Post by yatesybase » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:45 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:32 pm
Tresor back on....!!!!

http://sportwitness.co.uk/burnley-find- ... al-friday/
A larger than normal Excurive Jet is s Legacy , but a flight from Antwerp arrived today at Manchester that wasn't in the system till late morning.

He must have a he'll of lot of stuff to bring with him using a Legacy Bizjet.
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Post by It Is What It Is » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:57 pm

BFC must be spending close £100 million this transfer window plus millions on wages... so the Watts couple and Dude Perfect must have invested quite a few quid.

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:59 pm

Tresor rumour is a minty bit stronger. 👍
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