Bournemouth v Burnley MATCH THREAD

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm

Despite looking fallible when we have the ball and when we don't have the ball we are somehow still in this game thanks to an open goal miss before they were gifted their equaliser.
It's truly awful watched this disjointed and frail side and the task of getting to the end of the game with the point intact is a very big one

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm
Come on man not a chance this defence / keeper are a shambles

It wouldn’t be under Dyche

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm

Indeed I'd bring on Berge and JayRod - we're desperately in need of a bit more muscle, even if it's on their set pieces.

I'm shivering each time they have a corner or free kick close to our goal. Trafford is not an imposing figure.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:35 pm
We need so much more/anything from Amdouni. The invisible man.

He’s another that flatters to deceive and really shouldn’t be in the starting line up.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:01 pm

boyyanno wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:59 pm
Well I used my eyes and made the decision that he was outside of the area. Quite simple really even for you to grasp.

You seem to be weirdly trying to defend Trafford, I'm not having a go at him, but after seeing it again I'm still firm that he was outside of the area.

Take the claret tinted specs off bud. We're awful it doesn't really matter.

I didn’t see the angle but he looked incredibly lucky to not be out of his area with that. Hopefully Coote has done us a solid after missing the blatant foul in Anaas.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:01 pm

boyyanno wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:59 pm
Well I used my eyes and made the decision that he was outside of the area. Quite simple really even for you to grasp.

You seem to be weirdly trying to defend Trafford, I'm not having a go at him, but after seeing it again I'm still firm that he was outside of the area.

Take the claret tinted specs off bud. We're awful it doesn't really matter.

Fair enough, so not 100% then.

Not defending Traff at all, just wondered how you’d decided it was outside from the angles shown.

Is it tinted specs to suggest we should have been given a pen for the shirt pull on Zaroury?

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:01 pm

Carwin261 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm
He’s the only threat we have ,how can you say he shouldn’t be starting?

He has pace then immediately gives it away after using it, so what’s the point? He’s far too raw to be starting week in week out at this level in a team like this. Larsen or Berge playing off the right would offer a lot more - just my opinion perhaps.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:01 pm

Koleosho should be on the left
Have seen today why Zaroury hasn't been starting

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:02 pm

claretandy wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm
Jay is warming up...

He’ll be needed to help defend the barrage of corners second half!

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:02 pm

Belgianclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm
Indeed I'd bring on Berge and JayRod - we're desperately in need of a bit more muscle

Muscle? Have you ever watched Berge play?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:02 pm

Berge and Jay Rod have to be on soon

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:03 pm

I don't think it's a matter of formation or even player selection. We need to do the basics better and work harder. We aren't winning second balls and we're not keeping the ball well enough.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:03 pm

TommyPicks wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:51 pm
Rabbit in headlights sums up the whole season thus far

I said after Chelsea, in this league rabbits get run over, and we are really bollockless. The lack of a leader just to bollock the errors, or stir up some aggression is killing us.

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:03 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:29 pm
Trafford been picking out pass after pass. Not sure what you are seeing

He’s seeing the same as me ,Trafford booting it anywhere and inviting more pressure.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:03 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:01 pm
Koleosho should be on the left
Have seen today why Zaroury hasn't been starting

Need Zaroury off, JBL on & switching wings with Koleosho.

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:03 pm

basically we are void of confidence and a yard slower and something as to give because Bournemouth are bad but we are worse .

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:03 pm

Massive effort needed this half

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:03 pm

Negativity gets you nothing.
We have a very cheap squad by PL standards, it would be so much better if "fans" could first accept that as a fact, and second show some support for the whole project.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:04 pm

Jr on for Amdouni

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:04 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:01 pm
Fair enough, so not 100% then.

Not defending Traff at all, just wondered how you’d decided it was outside from the angles shown.

Is it tinted specs to suggest we should have been given a pen for the shirt pull on Zaroury?

Like the majority of people who have seen it and also agree it was outside of the area I don't think it's too difficult to understand really.

If you want to pretend he wasn't then that's fair enough, but it does suggest tinted specs yes. Who mentioned a pen?

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:04 pm

Jay has come on for Amdouni.

Amdouni has been a massive, massive disappointment so far.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:05 pm

JRod coming on

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:05 pm

Jrod on.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:05 pm

Amdouni off. If it was up to me he wouldn't be close to getting back in the side for a few weeks.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:05 pm

Thank God Amdouni has been removed

Not got the heart for the battle.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:05 pm

Commentator has just said “Jay not use to playing through the middle”??

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:06 pm

We are ten games into this Prem season now and we are still making the same mistakes we were in game one. He has to accept we haven't got the ability for the type of game he wants to play right now. Our defence especially cannot retain the ball under pressure.

It's most concerning that up until this very point it doesn't seem to have actually improved at all.

Even more worrying that Jay is the answer after spending £100m on players.

Hope I am proved wrong, but at this moment I can feel another defeat on the horizon.

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:06 pm

Jay on. God help us, hope he finally does something but as anonymous as Amdouni's been I wouldn't have done that, would've rather gone 4231 with Amdouni in Foster's role.

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:01 pm
He has pace then immediately gives it away after using it, so what’s the point? He’s far too raw to be starting week in week out at this level in a team like this. Larsen or Berge playing off the right would offer a lot more - just my opinion perhaps.

I'd 100% start Larsen he looks such a well rounded player. Not as fast, but decent retention, flair/trickery that is effective, good at finding space, good shot on him, can cross, seems pretty too footed, decent size for his position, and seems able to move around across that front line- could see him as any of RW/LW/CAM or even a deputy striker in more of a false 9 role than Foster plays. Can't get why he's not in.

If Benson was fit I'd start him too. I know he's lightweight and defensively suspect but he's one of the few players I'd say is a definitive goal threat

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:06 pm

Can we get knutsen in?

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:06 pm

C'mon JayRod !

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:06 pm

Deadly position for this fk.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:06 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:01 pm
Fair enough, so not 100% then.

Not defending Traff at all, just wondered how you’d decided it was outside from the angles shown.

Is it tinted specs to suggest we should have been given a pen for the shirt pull on Zaroury?

Also yes it does, seenashow it was outside of the box. Bad shout.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:07 pm

The summer window was an absolute car crash that has taken the squad backwards

The fact we’ve all been clamouring for Cork, Brownhill, Taylor, Jay, JBG this season sums up the state of things.

Eye watering failure

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:07 pm

boyyanno wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:06 pm
Also yes it does, seenashow it was outside of the box. Bad shout.

Would have been a 3 game ban could have finally seen Aro

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:08 pm

Credit where it’s due - so far, Vitinho has done alright today. It’s all come down Taylor’s side.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:09 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:07 pm
Would have been a 3 game ban could have finally seen Aro

I’m almost at the point I’d have taken it!

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:09 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:07 pm
The fact we’ve all been clamouring for Cork, Brownhill, Taylor, Jay, JBG this season sums up the stage of things.

This is my issue too. The fact we spent so much, relatively speaking, and the players you list are still featuring so heavily. Most of them weren't good enough the last time we were in this league.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:09 pm

If it’s any consolation Bournemouth look as poor as we have at times, and they spent massively last January didn’t they?

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:09 pm

Annis is offering nowt today

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:10 pm

Zaroury miles off it. Change for Tresor soon?

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:10 pm

Get Zaroury off please. Keeps giving away FK’s and weak in possession.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:10 pm

That's a bit desperate RV hahaha

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:11 pm

For a "passing" side, it's a very laborious process.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:11 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:10 pm
Zaroury miles off it. Change for Tresor soon?

Bruun Larsen plz!

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:11 pm

expoultryboy wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:09 pm
Annis is offering nowt today

Wrong formation no support from others

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:11 pm

expoultryboy wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:09 pm
Annis is offering nowt today

Yeah and he’s given it away too easily. A big disappointment after we were all clamouring for his chance. They’re all just lacking that spark of confidence from last season.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:11 pm

All one way since the restart.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:12 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:09 pm
This is my issue too. The fact we spent so much, relatively speaking, and the players you list are still featuring so heavily. Most of them weren't good enough the last time we were in this league.

Absolutely, those guys served us so well for a good few years and I’ll always respect them, but in 2021/22 it was obvious it was a season too far for them.

2 years on and they’re our best players in the PL having spent so much money

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:12 pm

Kolo done nowt for me get BL on

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:12 pm

Can’t believe how bad we’ve become.