Everton match thread

[Darthlaw]

Really starting to get worried about Cullen now.

Caught in possession again.

[IanMcL]

Cullen miscontrols and creates havoc

[warksclaret]

Vitinho. Got to be the least Brazilian Brazilian we could've found. Wouldn't mind but he can't defend either. He's more Co-Op than Copacabana.

But he was LiDl on price

[spt_claret]

I just don’t believe Cork can’t play for an hour.

It's not about his stamina it's his pace. All the experience and intelligence in the world wasn't enough last season he was getting overrun and having to take a yellow and bring the guy down.
We'd need to change our setup to bring Cork in or he will just be far too easily outpaced by everyone he's up against and we won't have the dynamism and mobility to get moves going.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Everton will not have an easier game all season

[CoolClaret]

I’d have McNally and Bobby Thomas over O’Shea and AlDakhil

[ksrclaret]

It's not about his stamina it's his pace. All the experience and intelligence in the world wasn't enough last season he was getting overrun and having to take a yellow and bring the guy down.
We'd need to change our setup to bring Cork in or he will just be far too easily outpaced by everyone he's up against and we won't have the dynamism and mobility to get moves going.

I say change the setup then!!

It's shite!!

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Pass it forwards!

[Murger]

It's not about his stamina it's his pace. All the experience and intelligence in the world wasn't enough last season he was getting overrun and having to take a yellow and bring the guy down.
We'd need to change our setup to bring Cork in or he will just be far too easily outpaced by everyone he's up against and we won't have the dynamism and mobility to get moves going.

We need to change our setup anyway. What we are currently witnessing is a shambles.

[Pickles]

Everton will not have an easier game all season

It's been a total stroll for them. All our possession has given them next to nothing to worry about.

[fidelcastro]

Radio Lancashire have just said it's us that are playing like we're 2-0 up.

No urgency or attempt to chase the game.

Tell me there'd be this much patience if Dyche was still here! He's done a job on us tonight!

[Ampth7]

Hate to say it, but I’m not seeing any improvement tonight and with 20 mins left we are yet to test Pickford! Another woeful performance.

[CoolClaret]

AAD needs to be sent to an NFL strength and conditioning coach for a year and get him back in for next preseason.

[RVclaret]

Vitinho. Got to be the least Brazilian Brazilian we could've found. Wouldn't mind but he can't defend either. Less Copacabana, more Co-Op.

[Boss Hogg]

If we carry on as we are I’m convinced we can break Derby’s low points record. Might as we go for wooden spoons properly.

[Newcastleclaret93]

It's been a total stroll for them. All our possession has given them next to nothing to worry about.

Yep, Everton are strolling around the pitch. Literally not even out of second gear.

[Vincent'sCap]

Another poor disjointed display it is getting really difficult to see where our next point is coming from, Everton as poor as they are have one this at a stroll

[jedi_master]

Sad reality is that it’s looking like we would need to spend £30m or so for a couple of players in the £15m range in defensive midfield and centre back to stay up.

I’m not sure anyone will want to sign for us if we are in this position when it comes around, couldn’t blame them.

[IanMcL]

Still piffling around at the back.

[AGENT_CLARET]

At least we can concentrate on the league now

[CoolClaret]

Berge, Cork and Brownhill in midfield for me next game

[burnleymik]

2-0 down and we aren't even going for it. No urgency. Just don't look like we want it.

[ksrclaret]

We're just not even capable of drawing a game of football.

VK has settled on this way of playing and all the noises suggest he's sticking with it.

Another pathetic, limp, woeful second half display.

[IanMcL]

Robbed of a corner there!

[ClaretAL]

Are you lit actually watching the match? We are massively improved. Forward 1 touch passing and Muric shows his quality and command in passing.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Giving Vitinho a four year deal looking like a masterstroke

[BobSykes]

Everton will not have an easier game all season

December 16th at the Turf with Trafford back?

[gandhisflipflop]

I get the sense some posters are revelling in this just to spout more negativity. This board has been unbearable in recent weeks

[Pickles]

Yep, Everton are strolling around the pitch. Literally not even out of second gear.

Been the same all season so far from us. I honestly don't mind us losing, I expect it in the Prem. And I like to think I'm fairly positive, honestly! But I can't pretend. The performances have been so limp. There's just nothing about us. No game plan, no identity. Sterile, stale.

[spt_claret]

We need to change our setup anyway. What we are currently witnessing is a shambles.

Don't disagree but I'm not sure we have the players to do it. Cork would require a compact counter attacking side to hit on the break with direct play, we MIGHT be able to pull it off with a midfield 3 of Cork as the anchor with Brownhill or JBG and Berge as the ball playing runners, pacy wing options of Koleosho and Benson (for directnes)/Amdouni, and Foster up top, Taylor/Beyer/Ekdal/Roberts back 4 keeping tight and playing orthodox fullbacks, take your pick in goal far less important . But it would be such a drastic overhaul in philosophy and involve dropping Kompanys golden boy Cullen and aspiring golden boy Tresor. Can't see it.

[BobSykes]

Though hard to see VK still being here by then so who knows....

[jedi_master]

Are you lit actually watching the match? We are massively improved. Forward 1 touch passing and Muric shows his quality and command in padding

Yes we definitely are improved but the same frailties are far too obvious in defence and Cullen is really looking like he can’t manage at this level (as a starter, at least).

[burnleymik]

To be fair to Vitinho, he has offered more of a threat on the right than Tresor.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Are you lit actually watching the match? We are massively improved. Forward 1 touch passing and Muric shows his quality and command in passing.

Haha give over.

This is pathetic. No shots on target in 78 mins.

Everton are literally strolling around like it’s a pre season game

[Florian]

Not having shots on target against a side thats no better than us on paper is whats frustrating

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Berge, Cork and Brownhill in midfield for me next game

VK is going to repeat the Dyche mistake of not playing Cork at all. Its nailed on.

[Pickles]

I get the sense some posters are revelling in this just to spout more negativity. This board has been unbearable in recent weeks

I'd love to be positive, believe me. We're only commenting on what we're seeing. It's a football messageboard and the football isn't great.

[CoolClaret]

I get the sense some posters are revelling in this just to spout more negativity. This board has been unbearable in recent weeks

Not at all, I hate seeing us lose every week.

I want something to be positive about

[warksclaret]

Giving Vitinho a four year deal looking like a masterstroke

On par with giving the 34 year old Rodriguez a two year one a year ago

[fidelcastro]

Giving Vitinho a four year deal looking like a masterstroke

We can continue to sing that stupid song though.

[PremierLeagueClass]

Not having shots on target against a side thats no better than us on paper is whats frustrating

I’d argue they’re quite a bit better on paper.

[boatshed bill]

I’d have McNally and Bobby Thomas over O’Shea and AlDakhil

I have a Coventry City season ticket holder mate who tells me Bobby Thomas is not very good, he did praise McNally though.

[ClaretAL]

I'd love to be positive, believe me. We're only commenting on what we're seeing. It's a football messageboard and the football isn't great.

In your opinion. In my opinion we are much improved

[jojomk1]

Are you lit actually watching the match? We are massively improved. Forward 1 touch passing and Muric shows his quality and command in passing.

What's the score in your game

Yes we have put some passes together but we don't look anywhere near scoring a goal and our defending is schoolboy stuff

[RVclaret]

I’d have McNally and Bobby Thomas over O’Shea and AlDakhil

Perhaps forgetting Al-Dakhil was flawless in the Championship and O’Shea one of the best cb’s in the league. McNally and Thomas have been in and out of teams in the bottom half of that league.

[spt_claret]

To be fair to Vitinho, he has offered more of a threat on the right than Tresor.

Tresor at the moment feels like 18 Ian Moores. Hoping it's just that he's on the wrong side and comes good (although if so why the hell isn't Kompany playing him on his favoured side??) but currently I'm just wondering why the hell we didn't spend that money on any of Tella, a top CDM, an experienced CB, or a LB

[ClaretLoup]

Not having shots on target against a side thats no better than us on paper is whats frustrating

Don’t think that’s the case. Which Burnley players would get into the Everton team?

[alboclaret]

My steam gone ****...thank god

[Pickles]

Not having shots on target against a side thats no better than us on paper is whats frustrating

I don't know about on paper... They're a whole library better than us.

[Andreshotboots]

Radio Lancashire have just said it's us that are playing like we're 2-0 up.

No urgency or attempt to chase the game.

Tell me there'd be this much patience if Dyche was still here! He's done a job on us tonight!

Merson made that point on Sky before the game. He said you could turn the TV and not know whether Burnley we're 1 up, or 1 down as they just play the same way..

Very worrying this as we seem toothless at one end and unable to defend the other..