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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by bumba » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:16 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:52 pm
Our manager obviously doesn't agree with you and I'll trust him over you.
Why would you trust him more when he's clearly got it wrong? He's obviously sticking with him to justify the £19 million he's wasted
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:18 pm

bumba wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:16 pm
Why would you trust him more when he's clearly got it wrong? He's obviously sticking with him to justify the £19 million he's wasted
If you say so.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:18 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:04 pm
Who's arguing. Just stating a fact that the manager obviously prefers Trafford to Muric.
Which is bizarre. Must be a clause in the contract.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:20 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:04 pm
Who's arguing. Just stating a fact that the manager obviously prefers Trafford to Muric.
You made an outlandish claim of him being undoubted best/ #1, then cited the managers decision as reasoning.

That's an argument from authority.

I agree that the manager seemingly prefers Trafford to Muric, but that isn't evidence that he's our best.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm

bumba wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:16 pm
Why would you trust him more when he's clearly got it wrong? He's obviously sticking with him to justify the £19 million he's wasted
He’s hoping he’s going to turn into Buffon , ain’t happening anytime soon!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:29 pm

What do you think is going through Muric’s mind every time he watches Trafford in these games?

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:31 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:29 pm
What do you think is going through Muric’s mind every time he watches Trafford in these games?
Similar to most players who’ve been binned off this season. Bet team spirit is top notch at the moment.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Murger » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:33 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:52 pm
Our manager obviously doesn't agree with you and I'll trust him over you.
Aye, let’s trust a manager who rates Vitinho. Let’s trust a manager who continues to play Amdouni. Let’s trust a manager who’s spunked over £100m.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:20 pm
You made an outlandish claim of him being undoubted best/ #1, then cited the managers decision as reasoning.

That's an argument from authority.

I agree that the manager seemingly prefers Trafford to Muric, but that isn't evidence that he's our best.
Whatever.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:33 pm
Aye, let’s trust a manager who rates Vitinho. Let’s trust a manager who continues to play Amdouni. Let’s trust a manager who’s spunked over £100m.
Whatever.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Murger » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:37 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pm
Whatever.
Are you 10?

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by summitclaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:37 pm

Wish you lot would shut the **** up about Trafford. He's a decent keeper already. We have had far far more serious problems this season. Trafford is not the problem.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:38 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pm
Whatever.
Mature response! O

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:38 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:37 pm
Wish you lot would shut the **** up about Trafford. He's a decent keeper already. We have had far far more serious problems this season. Trafford is not the problem.
Ok.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Westleigh » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:40 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:37 pm
Wish you lot would shut the **** up about Trafford. He's a decent keeper already. We have had far far more serious problems this season. Trafford is not the problem.
So as regarding serious problems if only relating to football what’s more serious than having a league 1 keeper in a Premier League team.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Murger » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:40 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:37 pm
Wish you lot would shut the **** up about Trafford. He's a decent keeper already. We have had far far more serious problems this season. Trafford is not the problem.
It’s a thread about Trafford.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:44 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:37 pm
Are you 10?
Unfortunately no but wish I was!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:44 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:38 pm
Mature response! O
Agree.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:44 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:38 pm
Ok.
Yeah he’s a decent keeper only conceded 47 goals in 23 games what a ******* joke.

We need to make a new award for most stupid decision of the season for the manager who keeps playing him.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Darthlaw » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:47 pm

Same group of posters keep this thread going each week with their vendetta.

Colour me shocked. :roll:

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:54 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:47 pm
Same group of posters keep this thread going each week with their vendetta.

Colour me shocked. :roll:
If he’d stop making errors the thread might disappear.

As it happens, he makes one most weeks so it returns to the top of the board.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:57 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:54 pm
If he’d stop making errors the thread might disappear.

As it happens, he makes one most weeks so it returns to the top of the board.
Typical silly reply from a typical Trafford supporter blaming everyone else for his errors. We get it you think he’s blameless even when its obvious to people with eyes he isn’t🙈

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:00 pm

I do feel like if Traff wasn't English or played for the U21s or had some platitudes off VK there'd be a lot less support.

Hand on heart if I thought he was giving us the best chance to win a game I'd be massively in favour of him starting - but I just do not see it and I'm not seeing an improvement to keep justifying his selection.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:02 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:37 pm
Wish you lot would shut the **** up about Trafford. He's a decent keeper already. We have had far far more serious problems this season. Trafford is not the problem.
Christ knows what you were expecting to read in a thread entitled ‘Trafford’. And I keep seeing he’s not the problem when, to me, he’s a very serious problem.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:03 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:02 pm
Christ knows what you were expecting to read in a thread entitled ‘Trafford’. And I keep seeing he’s not the problem when, to me, he’s a very serious problem.
Might as well put coco the clown in at this point at least he would have saved the first!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:04 pm

He certainly gets a free pass on here each week!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:06 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:54 pm
If he’d stop making errors the thread might disappear.

As it happens, he makes one most weeks so it returns to the top of the board.
Why keep focusing on perceived 'errors' instead of looking at the numerous saves that he makes? But wouldn't fit the agenda would it!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:07 pm

bumba wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:16 pm
Why would you trust him more when he's clearly got it wrong? He's obviously sticking with him to justify the £19 million he's wasted
So you say, I say different. Ger over it!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by agreenwood » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:12 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:04 pm
He certainly gets a free pass on here each week!
I don’t understand this comment when at least half the contributions to this thread are critical or him.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Jamesy » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:20 pm

Just got back to the Midlands after the game. From my seat in the Bob Lord Trafford should have come and claimed that ball easily prior to it going out for a corner and the resulting soft goal.
For their second goal with the ball over the top I think it was a 50/50 between him and the goal scorer. A confident keeper like Tom Heaton would have come for that and put the fear of god into their striker. We have done this to death all season and Kompany isn’t going to replace him but Trafford is a weak keeper and doesn’t inspire confidence to the rest of the team.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Shaggy » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:23 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:06 pm
Why keep focusing on perceived 'errors' instead of looking at the numerous saves that he makes? But wouldn't fit the agenda would it!
Numerous saves? How many did he make today? 2 or 3 tops that’s it. How many mistakes did he make? 2 or 3, he constantly makes mistakes which usually result in a goal conceded or a good chance to the opposition.

A goalkeeper is paid to make saves. He’s had 1 game where he pulled of a lot of saves 1 game. Apart from that he’s done absolutely nothing other than routine shot stopping.

I do not see what is so special about him. We let a better keeper in BPF go. BPF is levels above Trafford and has a lot more experience aswell even then he’s nothing more than a capable back up at EPL level.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:25 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:06 pm
Why keep focusing on perceived 'errors' instead of looking at the numerous saves that he makes? But wouldn't fit the agenda would it!
Because he makes these errors most weeks

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:26 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:12 pm
I don’t understand this comment when at least half the contributions to this thread are critical or him.
Same posters defend him each week regardless. It’s been an horrific experiment by Kompany in choosing to play him week in week out regardless of how often be picks the ball out of the net.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by bumba » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:28 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:07 pm
So you say, I say different. Ger over it!
I was over it before Christmas, it's now just a running joke 😂
He didn't make any saves today I wouldn't have expected even Vigouroux to make today

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by bumba » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:29 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm
He’s hoping he’s going to turn into Buffon , ain’t happening anytime soon!
Ahhhh but we're forgetting....he had one good half at Brighton so should be going the euros as England's number 1!!!!!!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:34 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:37 pm
Wish you lot would shut the **** up about Trafford. He's a decent keeper already. We have had far far more serious problems this season. Trafford is not the problem.
Trafford is the whole problem. Even the people in the Cricket Field stand could see that today from 100 metres away. Why do you think they were singing 'Muric' to Kompany as he went off at HT? Trafford is a liability and the only reason that I can suggest for him not being dropped ages ago is that there must be something in his contract to say he can't be.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Shaggy » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:35 pm

https://youtu.be/oij1xj55tY0?si=fXgyqc9MbPCeodk0

Although this is a few months old, they have called it spot on with regards to our team/squad and Trafford.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:35 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:23 pm
Numerous saves? How many did he make today? 2 or 3 tops that’s it. How many mistakes did he make? 2 or 3, he constantly makes mistakes which usually result in a goal conceded or a good chance to the opposition.

A goalkeeper is paid to make saves. He’s had 1 game where he pulled of a lot of saves 1 game. Apart from that he’s done absolutely nothing other than routine shot stopping.

I do not see what is so special about him. We let a better keeper in BPF go. BPF is levels above Trafford and has a lot more experience aswell even then he’s nothing more than a capable back up at EPL level.

I don’t care who is in nets for us as long as they save shots, these Trafford lovers seem to be missing the fact that his stats are absolutely woeful at his job which is saving shots and stopping us from conceding simple easily avoidable goals.

They just give him a free pass like the manager has had all season long. I’m a fan for the here and now not six years down the line as some poster hilariously said he would be good by( in six years time!)

Probably looked great at league one level against league one players with his over the top dives directly upwards to save easy shots. Safe to say no other team will be buying him with the premier league in mind. Time for VK to own up to his massive error of keeping playing him and play anyone else!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:39 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:34 pm
Trafford is the whole problem. Even the people in the Cricket Field stand could see that today from 100 metres away. Why do you think they were singing 'Muric' to Kompany as he went off at HT? Trafford is a liability and the only reason that I can suggest for him not being dropped ages ago is that there must be something in his contract to say he can't be.
Only way he is getting dropped is if Kompany isn’t here. I’d be ready for that to happen if it was my decision , its beyond frustrating now.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Robbie_painter » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:40 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:35 pm
I don’t care who is in nets for us as long as they save shots, these Trafford lovers seem to be missing the fact that his stats are absolutely woeful at his job which is saving shots and stopping us from conceding simple easily avoidable goals.

They just give him a free pass like the manager has had all season long. I’m a fan for the here and now not six years down the line as some poster hilariously said he would be good by( in six years time!)

Probably looked great at league one level against league one players with his over the top dives directly upwards to save easy shots. Safe to say no other team will be buying him with the premier league in mind. Time for VK to own up to his massive error of keeping playing him and play anyone else!
His stats are actually quite good for making saves,he’s second top behind Wes foderingham which tells you something about ours and Sheff uniteds defence.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:50 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:35 pm
https://youtu.be/oij1xj55tY0?si=fXgyqc9MbPCeodk0

Although this is a few months old, they have called it spot on with regards to our team/squad and Trafford.
Precisely, "One of the worst goalkeepers in the division."

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:53 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:50 pm
Precisely, "One of the worst goalkeepers in the division."
Never mind one of…

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:03 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:53 pm
Never mind one of…
That interview was recorded before the last two home games,. He's easily the worst after those are included.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:08 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:03 pm
That interview was recorded before the last two home games,. He's easily the worst after those are included.
And we paid £19,000,000!
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by bumba » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:09 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:00 pm
I do feel like if Traff wasn't English or played for the U21s or had some platitudes off VK there'd be a lot less support.

Hand on heart if I thought he was giving us the best chance to win a game I'd be massively in favour of him starting - but I just do not see it and I'm not seeing an improvement to keep justifying his selection.
The same goes for VK too though, if his name wasn't Vincent Kompany and he was an unknown manager from the Belgium league the ones defending VK this season would also be calling for his head.
It's been a shocking summer and each game were getting worse.
Fans saying Trafford is our number 1 because VK says he's our best goalkeeper need also remember VK says Dara O'Shea can play for a top 6 club and that we have a £100 million player on our books!!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Alan Young » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:13 pm

Becoming ridiculous now. This season has turned into an exercise in hoping to improve our goalkeeper. I’m not convinced Muric is the answer but surely he deserves a run in the side. Currently it’s not fair on Trafford or the rest of the team who surely have lost all confidence in him.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Vincent'sCap » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:14 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:54 pm


As it happens, he makes one most weeks so it returns to the top of the board.
Always instigated by you !

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Dressinggown » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:20 pm

It's about inspiring confidence within the defensive unit.

Unfortunately, he doesn't provide it.

Like most of our squad he is too physically lightweight.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Westleigh » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:21 pm

I never known a manager go back to the club he played for revel in the adulation from the fans and staff ,and the hugging and backslapping towards his old manager I reckon he wouldn’t have known what to do if we had somehow got the 3 points ,I can remember Gary Neville leading Utd out when Smeichel was in the opposition goals ,Neville wouldn’t even look at him.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Vincent'sCap » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:21 pm

[quote="Alan Young" I’m not convinced Muric is the answer but surely he deserves a run in the side. Currently it’s not fair on Trafford or the rest of the team who surely have lost all confidence in him.
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Muric is a crap keeper,he played for us in the Championship which we plssed without him doing much,spraying passes around and looking good was a piece of plss for Muric he was only tested once and Sheffield United hammered us with Muric looking Plss poor at goalkeeping

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