Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by Pickles » Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:28 am

One more - "you couldn't write it" or "you wouldn't believe it!"

A footballer scoring a goal in a football game. I can believe it.

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by kentonclaret » Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:42 am

“If that goal had been scored by Real Madrid we would be seeing it over and over again”

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by Vim Fuego » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:09 am

Investor

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by Belial » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:11 am

I've noticed a common theme of players is to say a few words, pause, say "and yeah", then say a few words, say "yeah" then repeat

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by aclaretinstevenage » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:14 am

All of the above and any / many more. I now don't listen to any punditry before the game, at half time or after the game. Carragher is simply the worst of all with his unintelligible drivel but the others aren't far behind. As for the geeks sitting behind their laptops on the "total football" and "The transfer Show" words fail me!

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by Lu-tze » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:17 am

Describing an overhit cross as ‘big’
Andy Townsend is a repeat offender -
‘The ball in was just a bit big for him’
Pardon??

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:37 pm

“And to be honest”, that’s what you are there for.

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by ecc » Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:43 pm

The use of the present tense instead of the past conditional

The use of the present perfect simple instead of the past simple.

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by Mark the Claret » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:10 pm

Intent
Initiated contact
Wand of a left foot

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:42 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:27 pm
False Nine and Low Block especially grind my gears.
Theres a few tactical genius on here that use the words all the time, them and ''double pivot'' really Pi55 me off, I stop reading as soon as I see it :lol:

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by Gordaleman » Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:50 pm

"Got a head on it."

How many heads has he got?

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by claptrappers_union » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:38 pm

High press

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by forzagranata » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:16 pm

Pickles wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:27 am
Top, top.

Top, top player. Top, top manager. Top, top team.

Drives me insane.
Guardiola is definitely to blame for 'top, top player'

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by forzagranata » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:18 pm

Most of them are phrases of continental origin brought in either by foreign coaches or pretentious journalists.

Pressing used to be called 'closing down' in English.

'Half space' comes from German.

Some are just utter nonsense though - like 'inverted full-back', which doesn't even describe what the full-back is doing (formerly known as 'tucking in')

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by Pickles » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:10 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:16 pm
Guardiola is definitely to blame for 'top, top player'
Hmm maybe. Feels like a Keys and Gray thing?

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by Sgt. Pepper » Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:30 pm

He's been clever.
He's played for it.
There is contact.
From that angle.
Not a clear and obvious error.
VAR.

All usually heard following a dive that earns a penalty.

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by timshorts » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:46 pm

Pickles wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:27 am
Top, top.

Top, top player. Top, top manager. Top, top team.
I have the opposite problem - with bottom.

"Burnley are second bottom" when we are next to bottom.

"luton are third bottom" , when they mean 18th or second from bottom.

I can sort of understand" the quarterback role". However, it is an outdated expression already, as it is generally used to describe pirlo, shelvey, and other pretty immobile players that sit just in front of the back 3/4 and splay passes around. Immobile quarterbacks are no longer the norm. Comparing shelvey to mahomes, cj stroud, josh Allen etc just shows that those using the term don't know much about modern US football. They are rather more of the Bruno guimeraes, kevin de bruyne persuasion.

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by PWBFC » Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:44 am

Amazed that 'project' hasn't been mentioned yet.
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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by burnmark » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:50 am

I miss the days of the commentator yelling out ‘it’s there!’ As the ball hits the net.

I’ve mentioned it before l, but I really get annoyed by fans these days calling players by their first names as if they are a mate or family member.

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:15 am

Massively overusing 'world class' to describe a good player.

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:58 am

"We go again"

Yes, that's because all clubs are obliged to fulfil their fixture requirements.

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:54 am

“ False 9” and “ final 3rd” do my frickin shed in .

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by ecc » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:15 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:58 am
"We go again"

Yes, that's because all clubs are obliged to fulfil their fixture requirements.
A Gerrardism: "We go again" doesn't seem grammatically correct me but is now used by all and sundry.
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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by spt_claret » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:52 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:18 am
Dorking Wanderers chairman & manager Marc White has taken his team that were a group of mates from grassroots football at the bottom of the West Sussex league into the National League; genuinely one of the best achievements in British Football this century.

If they ever managed to get another promotion, the EFL wouldn't allow him to manage in the football league because he hasn't got his badges - make that make sense.
Easy enough to make sense of it- gatekeeping. Ensures there's more jobs for the boys already in football when they finish, and general 'pull the ladder up' mentality. I looked at doing my coaching badges once, it's just not viable if you don't already work in football and have a club paying for it, absurdly expensive and a time commitment you can't really fit in alongside a job once you're past the very first grade.

As for the topic:
No problem with 'false 9', 'final third', 'high press' etc. they're discrete terminologies to mean things- how else do you describe the attacking third or pressing high up the pitch. False 9's overused and misused, it's a specific role for a position. This is the bigger problem I have with jargon in general -not that terms exist to describe something specific but that they're overused or used inappropriately. So it stops meaning anything and just becomes a way to sound like you know what you're saying while saying nothing.

Can't stand things like 'He's a 6, 8, 10, 9". That's not a role or a position, it describes nothing. CDM, CAM, mezzala, playmaker, box to box, anchor man, these do actually signify pitch positions or duties. Numbers generally don't because you can see multiple guys called a 6, 8, 10 and they actually play very differently.

Can't stand double pivot or low block either, unnecessary new jargon. Double pivot just means 'two CDMs/deep CMs', low block just means what 'deep backline' or 'playing deep' used to mean, they're not describing anything new or distinct just buzzwords.

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Re: Frequently used ‘modern day’ football terminology

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:18 pm

Anyone who enjoys this topics might enjoy the "Football Cliches" podcast on Spotify and other platforms.

They take overused phrases and break them down - their recent discussion on what constitutes "ghosting" was hilarious.

https://open.spotify.com/show/6U4LfcF1ymFwxRDEsUq3Gd

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