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Yellow Cards

Post by karatekid » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:12 am

Thinking back to yesterday’s winner for Man Utd. Should a player who celebrates a goal by whipping his shirt off for a few seconds be given a yellow and as we saw yesterday then potentially sent off.
He didn’t foul anyone or swear at the ref.
It seems that yellow cards are thrown around so easy these days. Surely celebrating a goal like yesterday shouldn’t result in being sent off. What is wrong with taking the shirt off? Is it worse than celebrating in front of the opposition fans for instance?

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by Leisure » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:20 am

Simple. It's against the rules.
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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by ChrisG » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:30 am

karatekid wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:12 am
Thinking back to yesterday’s winner for Man Utd. Should a player who celebrates a goal by whipping his shirt off for a few seconds be given a yellow and as we saw yesterday then potentially sent off.
He didn’t foul anyone or swear at the ref.
It seems that yellow cards are thrown around so easy these days. Surely celebrating a goal like yesterday shouldn’t result in being sent off. What is wrong with taking the shirt off? Is it worse than celebrating in front of the opposition fans for instance?
It's to keep the sponsors happy. Every camera in the ground is on the player who has scored the goal, and the sponsor pays a lot of money for their name to be in the limelight too. If the shirt comes off then the logo isn't visible.

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by Cooclaret » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:31 am

Leisure wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:20 am
Simple. It's against the rules.
It is and was correctly punished.

But, for me it’s just a non sensical rule. Those who made it haven’t been in that moment, with those emotions.

Young kid who was lauded as the next big thing, battles for years to get an opportunity. Scores the winner in the last minutes of the most passionate derby in the UK, and totally forgets himself.

Stupid rule!

Those who have messages on their shirts, different story!
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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:07 am

Cooclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:31 am
It is and was correctly punished.

But, for me it’s just a non sensical rule. Those who made it haven’t been in that moment, with those emotions.

Young kid who was lauded as the next big thing, battles for years to get an opportunity. Scores the winner in the last minutes of the most passionate derby in the UK, and totally forgets himself.

Stupid rule!

Those who have messages on their shirts, different story!
Not sure whipping my shirt off would be the first thing that’s going through my mind after scoring a last minute winner

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:11 am

Player says he'd forgotten about the first yellow card.

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by Peter Loo » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:13 am

Leisure wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:20 am
Simple. It's against the rules.
There are no rules in Association Football...they are all Laws.

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by mdd2 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:45 am

I assume that as cards are competition specific these days the lad will miss the semi-final

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by IanMcL » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:52 am

Wasn't it banned as someone decided it might affect crowd control?

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by Cooclaret » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:39 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:07 am
Not sure whipping my shirt off would be the first thing that’s going through my mind after scoring a last minute winner
What would?

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by Ric_C » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:48 am

Running into the crowd or taking your shirt off should never ever be a yellow card

There are far more deserving incidents that I would insist on a yellow:

Keeper flops to the floor for no reason other than to waste time (warning, then yellow)
Player who shoves an opponent into advertising hoardings should be an automatic yellow every time
Sliding in with studs showing on a goalkeeper

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by dsr » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:53 am

It was banned because players were taking their shirts off to show political and other slogans.

Instead of getting excited about whether or not it should be banned, why not explain to the managers what the rules are, and let them give their players detailed instruction in how not to take their shirts off? Surely it isn't hard.
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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:59 am

It was rightly banned to stop players making "statements" whether political or otherwise, but I also think there needs to be a curbing on some of the more outlandish celebrating. Coaches, subs, youth players, all invading the pitch to pile on the goalscorer is becoming ridiculous and the amount of time it all takes never gets added on. Celebrating goals has always been an intrinsic part of the game and don't get me wrong, I hate VAR because it's spoilt a lot of that, but it just seems all this running to the dugout or subs running on and mobbing the goalscorer has become daft. (Imo)
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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:05 pm

It’s also seen as a sign of disrespect to the club - the player wants to make it about them, show off their chest or whatever. Should definitely be a yellow.

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:16 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:48 am
Running into the crowd or ........... should never ever be a yellow card
You can't be serious. I can't think of anything more potentially dangerous. If I'm in the crowd with grandchildren, (who tend to be near the front), the last thing I would want is a player piling into us and the crowd surging forward.
The crowd should stay in the stands, (and if the encroach on the pitch they get a significant ban.
Likewise players should stay on the pitch.

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:02 pm

I thought the law was also related to wearing the correct attire at all times when on the pitch but may be wrong. The problem is, where do you draw the line? Shorts off and windmilling around the head (windmilling the shorts!)? Easier if players just don't undress during games, it's not something I've ever had the impulse to do when playing football.
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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by sjb » Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:46 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:39 am
What would?
My win bonus

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:07 pm

Diallo should have worn an identical match shirt underneath the one he had on

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:15 pm

I'd like to think a little bit of discretion could be applied in these instances. But then I remembered there is very little, if any at all of it, left in the game of football. I was surprised at how much time was played after the goal was scored.

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by clarets1978 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:16 pm

There was a game in Italy last season where a striker scored and took his shirt off then got a 2nd yellow and sent off for it.... VAR then reviewed the goal and disallowed it for offside :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by karatekid » Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:55 pm

What if you leave the playing area and then take your shirt off then replace it before returning to the playing area?

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by Ric_C » Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:07 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:16 pm
You can't be serious. I can't think of anything more potentially dangerous. If I'm in the crowd with grandchildren, (who tend to be near the front), the last thing I would want is a player piling into us and the crowd surging forward.
The crowd should stay in the stands, (and if the encroach on the pitch they get a significant ban.
Likewise players should stay on the pitch.
Ok keep the yellow card if they jump into the family stand :D

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:10 pm

karatekid wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:55 pm
What if you leave the playing area and then take your shirt off then replace it before returning to the playing area?
Unless you've been given permission to leave the playing area then presumably you are classed as an active player.

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by yTib » Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:13 pm

modern goal celebrations are cringing.

the skidding on the knees one shows a particular lack of personality.

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Re: Yellow Cards

Post by basil6345789 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:33 pm

karatekid wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:12 am
Thinking back to yesterday’s winner for Man Utd. Should a player who celebrates a goal by whipping his shirt off for a few seconds be given a yellow and as we saw yesterday then potentially sent off.
He didn’t foul anyone or swear at the ref.
It seems that yellow cards are thrown around so easy these days. Surely celebrating a goal like yesterday shouldn’t result in being sent off. What is wrong with taking the shirt off? Is it worse than celebrating in front of the opposition fans for instance?
Celebrating, showboating, it's all cack

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