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Man Utd (a)

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:02 pm

Not seen a thread yet for the Man Utd game.

Any thoughts on our team to start? (I assume most would want/expect the same team from the Sheff Utd game).

So hard to predict games against Man Utd. They can turn up and grind results out one week and then look like a pub team the week after. I don't even want to know what the odds are of them getting a dodgy Bruno Fernandes penalty.

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Re: Man Utd (a)

Post by GetIntoEm » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:13 pm

same team, Koleosho on bench instead of benson

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Re: Man Utd (a)

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:28 pm

draws aren't good enough at the minute, a win would be huge for confidence going into the last 3, I would probably start believing it was possible which wont be good for my health.

I expect it will be the same side and I'm going for a 2v1 with Foster scoring both

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Re: Man Utd (a)

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:49 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:28 pm
draws aren't good enough at the minute, a win would be huge for confidence going into the last 3, I would probably start believing it was possible which wont be good for my health.

I expect it will be the same side and I'm going for a 2v1 with Foster scoring both
Not sure about that. I would expect a win and a draw from our next three games would leave us in with a chance on the final day.

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Post by ecc » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:54 pm

Problem is Forest must surely beat the Blunts. Which means we need at least four points from three prior to the last day.
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Post by sykeclaret » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm

Luton win 2 or 3 games and it wont matter what we do. Everyone is mentioning Forest when no-one his discussed Luton, it's 2 from 3, Burnley, Luton and Forest

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Post by martin_p » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm

ecc wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:54 pm
Problem is Forest must surely beat the Blunts. Which means we need at least four points from three prior to the last day.
And we need to get three points more than Luton to have it in our own hands in the last day. Unfortunately they have four winnable games left.

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Post by Rileybobs » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:09 pm

sykeclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm
Luton win 2 or 3 games and it wont matter what we do. Everyone is mentioning Forest when no-one his discussed Luton, it's 2 from 3, Burnley, Luton and Forest
Only because we have absolutely no control over Luton, whereas we face Forest on the last day of the season so only have to gain a point more than them between now and then to leave it in our hands to finish above them. In terms of Luton, if for example we managed to pick up 4 points in the next 3 games, Luton would need 6 points from the next 3 (quite unlikely) to not leave us in with a chance on the final day.

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Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:20 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:13 pm
same team, Koleosho on bench instead of benson
It would be brilliant if Koleosho could be involved.

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Re: Man Utd (a)

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:24 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:13 pm
same team, Koleosho on bench instead of benson
Koleosho not available according to Kompany

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Post by 4:20 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:33 pm

Given how down in the dumps this season has been for the most part, it's almost unbelievable that with four games to go we're going into a game with a realistic chance of keeping it close and continuing the fight to stay up. I would've bitten your hand off a few months back if offered this scenario. All I can hope for is that Kompany gets it spot on tomorrow, likewise the players, whatever the lineup. Well up for it.
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Post by Anonymous Claret » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:51 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:09 pm
Only because we have absolutely no control over Luton, whereas we face Forest on the last day of the season so only have to gain a point more than them between now and then to leave it in our hands to finish above them. In terms of Luton, if for example we managed to pick up 4 points in the next 3 games, Luton would need 6 points from the next 3 (quite unlikely) to not leave us in with a chance on the final day.
On paper I think Luton have the easiest fixtures by far. Wolves and West Ham away along with Everton and Fulham at home who will probably all be safe and have nothing to play for.

It doesn't necessarily mean that Luton will stay up but I would rather have their fixtures than ours or Forest's

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Post by Rileybobs » Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:42 pm

Anonymous Claret wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:51 pm
On paper I think Luton have the easiest fixtures by far. Wolves and West Ham away along with Everton and Fulham at home who will probably all be safe and have nothing to play for.

It doesn't necessarily mean that Luton will stay up but I would rather have their fixtures than ours or Forest's
As would I, but Luton have picked up just 5 points in their last 10 games, we've picked up 10. They've picked up 4 points in their last 6, we've picked up 9.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:44 pm

I can't wait to hear how Forests appeal goes, have I missed it?, after their SM rant about Attwell.

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Post by Anonymous Claret » Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:53 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:42 pm
As would I, but Luton have picked up just 5 points in their last 10 games, we've picked up 10. They've picked up 4 points in their last 6, we've picked up 9.
Yes, that's the positive point. Let's hope our good form continues and Luton continue to struggle.
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Post by equinox » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:49 pm

Beat United and we'll stay up, well that should be Vinny's narrative all week to the players.

Over to you Vincent can you get them set up and have the game plan when it really, really matters, you've certainly had enough undeserved chances the last few months.

I'm not into comparing past and present managers but Sean Dyche was good at this sort of sh!t, still is actually.

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Post by Carlos the Great » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:54 pm

We really need a win ..,and then the pressure is really on Forest ,,,that goal difference would be cruel if we got relegated on that
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Post by jlup1980 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:11 pm

We can only control our games, but we can put pressure on the rest. Without being flippant, I think everyone thought we'd gone long ago. From a media perspective it's been a shoot out between Luton, Forest and Everton. However, one club has pulled clear and we've closed the gap. Suddenly we're back in with a chance and we've got nothing to lose as we're back from the dead!! Beat United tomorrow, which is possible, and it will have a massive impact on the rest.

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:17 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:54 pm
We really need a win ..,and then the pressure is really on Forest ,,,that goal difference would be cruel if we got relegated on that
The good thing about this is city are 8 shy of arsenal and it may well come down to that for them, so they'll no doubt be looking to put a few past forest, so coupled with a 2 goal victory for us at utd brings us a bit closer, I know, but we can only hope.
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Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:31 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:24 pm
Koleosho not available according to Kompany
Yes just seen on the team news, not great. I also didn't realise they confirmed Beyer and AAD will definitely not be available this season.

They must be absolutely gutted that they have had no impact in their first PL season.

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:46 am

Poulton-le-Claret wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:31 am
Yes just seen on the team news, not great. I also didn't realise they confirmed Beyer and AAD will definitely not be available this season.

They must be absolutely gutted that they have had no impact in their first PL season.
I'm not convinced these 2 are solely down to injury, don't think either were reported to have serious season ending injuries, but have missed most of the season. However I'm happy to see the current defence improve and grow together, just hope we can keep them all whatever league next season.
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Post by wbfc » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:52 am

if Forest win and we lose that is that ....we are right on the edge

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:02 am

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:46 am
I'm not convinced these 2 are solely down to injury, don't think either were reported to have serious season ending injuries, but have missed most of the season. However I'm happy to see the current defence improve and grow together, just hope we can keep them all whatever league next season.
We saw Beyer go down at Villa but for some time we were told he was progressing well and on one occasion that he was close to a return. I can only assume that he's suffered a further injury since or he's had further issues with the original injury. Al-Dakhil is different, we saw him score at the Etihad and, other than being in the away end at Liverpool, we haven't seen him since.

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Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:18 am

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:46 am
I'm not convinced these 2 are solely down to injury, don't think either were reported to have serious season ending injuries, but have missed most of the season. However I'm happy to see the current defence improve and grow together, just hope we can keep them all whatever league next season.
Yep, without wanting to restart the debate around releasing details around injuries again, I really don't know what to make about their continued absence. As Tony alludes to, their situation is a bit of a mystery.

I hope they will be at the club next season.

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Post by bfcjg » Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:21 am

All our remaining games are must wins, surely the players don't need motivating for this one especially, get momentum today and if results go our way we have a real chance of taking it to the last game.

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Post by FCBurnley » Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:25 am

This season has been a nightmare. Can’t see it turning into the sweetest of dreams

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:02 pm

Feeling really positive today. Have a feeling we can cause an upset here.

Foster to grab the winner

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Post by expoultryboy » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:04 pm

Fofana ???

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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:05 pm

It's always a good idea to change a winning team.

It's always an even better idea to bring in a bobbins centre forward like Fofana.

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Post by FCBurnley » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:06 pm

Vitinho at lb wtf

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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:07 pm

It's also highly likely that Fofana's inclusion will mean that Foster has to play on the right wing again lol.

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Post by Woody9229 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:07 pm

Fofana back? Why? Vitinho left back! Why o why? Overthinking things yet again Vincent. Don’t Bellamy of Jackson ever say anything? Makes no footballing sense and hasn’t worked before!!

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Post by expoultryboy » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:08 pm

Why change what's been getting us points ?

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Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:08 pm

I really don't understand this line up but hope it works!

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Post by HahaYeah » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:09 pm

Team

49 Muric
20 Assignon
2 O'Shea
33 Esteve
22 Vitinho
17 Foster
16 Berge
24 Cullen
34 Bruun Larsen
47 Odobert
23 Fofana

Substitutes

1 Trafford
3 Taylor
7 Gudmundsson
8 Brownhill
9 Rodríguez
10 Manuel
18 Ekdal
25 Amdouni
31 Trésor

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Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:11 pm

Was thinking during the win at Sheffield United that we should replace the left back with a striker and shift half the team around to accommodate.

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Post by whiffa » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:13 pm

Cannot understand dropping Taylor, can only assume he has a knock or something and isn'y fully 100%

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Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:13 pm

VK usually corrects his selection mistakes at half time - you’d think he’d learn

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Post by bfcjg » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:13 pm

FFS why does he chop and change so much.

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Post by expoultryboy » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:16 pm

I can only think he wants to expose their slowness in the middle at the back .

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Post by thelifeofbrian » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:17 pm

Lets change a winning team and play players out of position, sound like a tactical master class from VK, he really is learning on the job :D

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Post by bfcjg » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:18 pm

expoultryboy wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:16 pm
I can only think he wants to expose their slowness in the middle at the back .
I think the only slowness in Vincent's brain.
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Post by aggi » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:19 pm

Vitinho and Assignon down the right together look our strongest pairing there. Taylor is our best left back by default (with none of the other options anywhere near) and even more so when we have Assignon pushing right up on the opposite side. Foster has looked far better leading the line through the middle.

This one change will negate all three of those positives.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:20 pm

Get a tenner on Manure getting a penalty maybe two.

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Post by MDWat » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:20 pm

Hope the selection makes us all look a bit silly on this thread but can’t fathom why he’s made the change he has. Bizarre.

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Post by claretspice » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:20 pm

Assuming its not enforced, it seems an odd change. But it's looked quite likely in recent weeks that Taylor is managing an injury.

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Post by Woody9229 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:20 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:18 pm
I think the only slowness in Vincent's brain.
This!
I just don’t get his thinking at all.

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Post by Clive 1960 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:21 pm

Again Taylor makes way for a utility man at left back but don't worry he can always change it at h.t and bring Taylor on again like he's done before , got to feel sorry for Vitinho just hope he as a decent game..

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Post by Woody9229 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:23 pm

Charlie wasn’t great last week but off form and injured and he is still a far better left back than Vitinho is!!
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