Kompany to Bayern Munich?

[NewClaret]

Fully get your point but perhaps in fairness to Vinny, Bayern might have only come in yesterday/today. I reckon he would have stayed with us if this was Brighton or Brentford (perhaps I’m naive?) but it’s Bayern Munich. Whilst I’d be disappointed in him as I think it properly shafts us (moreso the many young players he’s brought in) it’s hard to not understand leaving Burnley for a club like this. It’s probably once in a lifetime and we were always intended to be a footnote on his C.V I imagine.

Completely agree on all of this, although suspect his intention was more than just footnote but it’s not worked out that way.

[Vegas Claret]

A promotion/relegation with a B team into the second tier of Spanish football is vastly different than the season that we've just had - and yes, last year was great, but this year was god-awful.

so you acknowledge the facts

[fidelcastro]

I'm struggling to think that if we'd been managed by Phil Parkinson or Steve Evans this season, we'd have had fewer points than we got under Kompany.

If there really is something in this link, it would be astonishing.

[Goliath]

I'm struggling to think that if we'd been managed by Phil Parkinson or Steve Evans this season, we'd have had fewer points than we got under Kompany.

If there really is something in this link, it would be astonishing.

I think the big thing about Kompany was it felt like we were always trying to build something exciting for the future and on occasion you could see the potential.
When he goes I expect that we will all feel really flat, regardless of whether you were a big fan of his or not.
Whoever the next manager is, I doubt it will be as exciting as having Vincent Kompany as out manager was.

I like Mark Robins for example, but him coming through the door after Kompany is a huge step down in terms of profile. It will feel like a balloon being burst.

[fidelcastro]

I think the big thing about Kompany was it felt like we were always trying to build something exciting for the future and on occasion you could see the potential.
When he goes I expect that we will all feel really flat, regardless of whether you were a big fan of his or not.
Whoever the next manager is, I doubt it will be as exciting as having Vincent Kompany as out manager was.

I like Mark Robins for example, but him coming through the door after Kompany is a huge step down in terms of profile. It will feel like a balloon being burst.

Not really. I haven't felt excited about Kompany being our manager for about a year now.

This is the point I was making at the start of the thread about how clubs and their owners, and now seemingly some fans hear a name and go completely gaga.

[CoolClaret]

so you acknowledge the facts

I do... Do you acknowledge the nuance?

[Vegas Claret]

I do... Do you acknowledge the nuance?

it's irrelevant, doesn't change the fact

[Quicknick]

it's irrelevant, doesn't change the fact

CoolClaret is right.

[Elbarad]

Not really. I haven't felt excited about Kompany being our manager for about a year now.

This is the point I was making at the start of the thread about how clubs and their owners, and now seemingly some fans hear a name and go completely gaga.

So like within a week after the victory parade you started doubting him as a manager? Can you PM me the next lotto numbers please?

[Vegas Claret]

CoolClaret is right.

Can't beat the facts, crack on.

[Clive 1960]

managers like footballers move on sometime in there careers so if there's any truth in the rumours good look to him because Burnley football club will always be there and no one is bigger than our club...

[Clive 1960]

Also if he does leave the new manager as a lot on is plate with the current squad who stays and who goes, so it will be a interesting summer ahead that's for sure ...

[Paddy1882]

If he does go to Bayern fair play to him it’s a huge huge jump. Not overly bothered either way to be honest. Replacement wise I’d be all over Corberan at West Brom, cheaper options Moyes, lampard or Rosenior.

[pushpinpussy]

Im more than sure that the football experts at Bayern, one of the biggest football teams in the world, will take into account the comments from the so called football experts on this message board regarding VK, before they make their big decision on a new manager.

[JohnDearyMe]

If he does go to Bayern fair play to him it’s a huge huge jump. Not overly bothered either way to be honest. Replacement wise I’d be all over Corberan at West Brom, cheaper options Moyes, lampard or Rosenior.

Tresor as player manager for me

[Shaggy]

If he does go to Bayern fair play to him it’s a huge huge jump. Not overly bothered either way to be honest. Replacement wise I’d be all over Corberan at West Brom, cheaper options Moyes, lampard or Rosenior.

No one whether you like Kompany as our manager or not, no one can deny him going to Bayern. It’s like dating a nice girl who leads a fairly mundane life, then Paige spiranac comes along and says your mine. It’s an absolute no brainer.

I like Corberan as a manager, he is fantastic. Rosenior aswell could be a good shout. Moyes would have bigger suitors than us and Lampard not a chance.

[KlyBfc]

I’ve read Will Still’s name chucked about as a possible option by some of our fans. Can I just say please god NO.

After a very very bright start at Reims (17 unbeaten) he won two in about 14 games. That’s a risk we don’t need. He’s done very little in management (mainly a number 2) and only seems to be a popular name because he got himself on Talksport a fair bit.
The lad may go on to be a success but he’s not a risk I would like us to take.

[Paddy1882]

Tresor as player manager for me

To have the level of humour at this time of the morning is impressive.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Already looking forward to the list of random managers out there we should go for compiled by our resident experts.

[bumba]

Now 2/1 favourite, hopefully comes back with lots of money to take these £100 million players he brought in!
People said relegation wouldn't be that bad and that we'd walk the championship and come back up, well this is the thing in football you never know what's around the corner we now maybe finding ourselves with a squad full of young players who signed for one man who then leaves after relegation, rumours of discontent and cliques, this is where it could all go pear shaped.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The decision to not sack VK after 10 games this season is starting to look more and more stupid by the day.

Let’s face it, he’s absolutely shafted us, signed loads of crap using his scouting firm and then after one of the worst seasons in our history he jumps ship.

Pace has been too loyal and it’s come to bite him in the arse if he goes.

[Winstonswhite]

As if Kompany is going to Bayern Munich

Jesus some people will believe anything if they read it on a screen in front of them. Worlds gone mad

[NewClaret]

The decision to not sack VK after 10 games this season is starting to look more and more stupid by the day.

Let’s face it, he’s absolutely shafted us, signed loads of crap using his scouting firm and then after one of the worst seasons in our history he jumps ship.

Pace has been too loyal and it’s come to bite him in the arse if he goes.

I think if you made a list of his signings and had two pots for “good signings” and “bad signings” there would be more in the former.

Amazes me the focus say 4-5 bad ones out of 30 (all most agree have a lot of potential and we’ve only seen for one year).

[Dyched]

I'm struggling to think that if we'd been managed by Phil Parkinson or Steve Evans this season, we'd have had fewer points than we got under Kompany.

If there really is something in this link, it would be astonishing.

Always felt the way the season was going he was sacrificing our season to further his career. That’s what teams look for nowadays “ah he plays the right way”.

SD did what he and we had to do for this club to get points in PL, Kompany didn’t.

[JohnDearyMe]

There's only one way this story could have any legs.

RVclaret - Vincent Kompany's biggest fan

Rudi Voller - German football legend and current director and caretaker manager of the German national team.

RVclaret is actually Rudi Voller and has been singing Kompany's praises to the Bayern Munich board.

[agreenwood]

As if Kompany is going to Bayern Munich

Jesus some people will believe anything if they read it on a screen in front of them. Worlds gone mad

Certainly a lot jumping the gun. He’s reportedly on a list and has had a conversation with Bayern officials. I’m sure he’s not the only one.

[wilks_bfc]

I’ve read Will Still’s name chucked about as a possible option by some of our fans. Can I just say please god NO.

After a very very bright start at Reims (17 unbeaten) he won two in about 14 games. That’s a risk we don’t need. He’s done very little in management (mainly a number 2) and only seems to be a popular name because he got himself on Talksport a fair bit.
The lad may go on to be a success but he’s not a risk I would like us to take.

Still is lined up or the Sunderland job

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think if you made a list of his signings and had two pots for “good signings” and “bad signings” there would be more in the former.

Amazes me the focus say 4-5 bad ones out of 30 (all most agree have a lot of potential and we’ve only seen for one year).

You really think 80% of his what 40 signings have been good?

Come on Newclaret even you can’t be this disingenuous.

This season I would say the only successful permanent signings were Esteve and Berge. The rest were just Meh at absolute best. Then his successful signings from last season have disappeared into the football ether, will Zaroury Muric benson etc…. Even be remotely interested in playing for us this season.

VK has left us in a right mess if he leaves. A massive squad nearly all signed by him and very few we can make profit on.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Hope Pace is going after Christian Ilzer

[NewClaret]

Now 2/1 favourite, hopefully comes back with lots of money to take these £100 million players he brought in!
People said relegation wouldn't be that bad and that we'd walk the championship and come back up, well this is the thing in football you never know what's around the corner we now maybe finding ourselves with a squad full of young players who signed for one man who then leaves after relegation, rumours of discontent and cliques, this is where it could all go pear shaped.

Can’t work this out. Why would he come in for all the allegedly crap players he’s signed? If they’re as crap as everyone’s saying there’s no chance one of europes top clubs will come in for them.

They’re good and they’d be missed, or crap in which case they’ll be staying because no other clubs will sanction expensive moves.

It’s really weird how our fans have slated Trafford all season and saying we’d be lucky to get our money back and he now has Liverpool and Newcastle interested, and Kompany who Bayern are now talking to. Regardless of whether either end up leaving, so strange that some of the largest clubs top football people seem to appreciate our personnel more than we do.

[morninbob]

You really think 80% of his what 40 signings have been good?

Come on Newclaret even you can’t be this disingenuous.

This season I would say the only successful permanent signings were Esteve and Berge. The rest were just Meh at absolute best. Then his successful signings from last season have disappeared into the football ether, will Zaroury Muric benson etc…. Even be remotely interested in playing for us this season.

VK has left us in a right mess if he leaves. A massive squad nearly all signed by him and very few we can make profit on.

You missed out koleosho and odebert.

[theduke]

Interesting one. Seems his stock hasn't fallen from this season, which is a suprise.

But as has been said playing his style at Bayern is a vastly different animal than with us in the prem. Can hardly see neuer gifting goals with dodgy passing

[bumba]

Can’t work this out. Why would he come in for all the allegedly crap players he’s signed? If they’re as crap as everyone’s saying there’s no chance one of europes top clubs will come in for them.

They’re good and they’d be missed, or crap in which case they’ll be staying because no other clubs will sanction expensive moves.

It’s really weird how our fans have slated Trafford all season and saying we’d be lucky to get our money back and he now has Liverpool and Newcastle interested, and Kompany who Bayern are now talking to. Regardless of whether either end up leaving, so strange that some of the largest clubs top football people seem to appreciate our personnel more than we do.

I was being sarcastic he won't be coming back for any of the players he's signed here to go to Bayern!
Liverpool and Newcastle want Trafford?? Is there any proof this isn't just rumours or Traffords agent putting the feelers out? One thing's for sure he wouldn't be going to either to be 1st choice.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You missed out koleosho and odebert.

I wouldn’t say they have been a success. Just Meh.

Between them 7 goal contributions in 49 apps. For an attacking team that’s poor.

[NewClaret]

I was being sarcastic he won't be coming back for any of the players he's signed here to go to Bayern!
Liverpool and Newcastle want Trafford?? Is there any proof this isn't just rumours or Traffords agent putting the feelers out? One thing's for sure he wouldn't be going to either to be 1st choice.

Well the Trafford rumours have been in the papers a bit like this Kompany rumour we’re discussing.

[NewClaret]

I wouldn’t say they have been a success. Just Meh.

Between them 7 goal contributions in 49 apps. For an attacking team that’s poor.

So you evaluate the success of 18 and 19 yo signings on the basis of one season. Absolutely weird and no point discussing further tbh.

[NewClaret]

I think the big thing about Kompany was it felt like we were always trying to build something exciting for the future and on occasion you could see the potential.
When he goes I expect that we will all feel really flat, regardless of whether you were a big fan of his or not.
Whoever the next manager is, I doubt it will be as exciting as having Vincent Kompany as out manager was.

I like Mark Robins for example, but him coming through the door after Kompany is a huge step down in terms of profile. It will feel like a balloon being burst.

Completely agree with this. I can’t remember his exact words recently but it was something like “this club has an exciting future regardless of relegation”.

Obviously there’s a risk these kind of words do end up just being words but from day 1 I’ve felt excited by Kompany’s appointment and even during the darker days this season have felt it’s been building towards something that could be great for us.

Theres no guarantees of course, that’s sort of what makes it interesting, but I’m really struggling to get excited about any of the managers being touted on here - many of which haven’t achieved promotion from the division were now in despite many attempts. I’m so staggered that so many fans would be so accepting of what I’d see as a downgrade in experience and profile to attract the best players.

[Newcastleclaret93]

So you evaluate the success of 18 and 19 yo signings on the basis of one season. Absolutely weird and no point discussing further tbh.

Yes what else am I going to review them on? A few apps in worst leagues.

I’m reviewing them on there break through season.

Newclaret I know this is a hard time for you because you have pinned your hopes on VK but Koleosho and Odobert have had just ok seasons. I’m really not sure how you can say otherwise

[CaptJohn]

Just checked the date and it's not the 1st April. Feels like it though with a rumour like this.

[IanMcL]

I think the big thing about Kompany was it felt like we were always trying to build something exciting for the future and on occasion you could see the potential.
When he goes I expect that we will all feel really flat, regardless of whether you were a big fan of his or not.
Whoever the next manager is, I doubt it will be as exciting as having Vincent Kompany as out manager was.

I like Mark Robins for example, but him coming through the door after Kompany is a huge step down in terms of profile. It will feel like a balloon being burst.

Only because he said it was!

[claretonthecoast1882]

If he was offered the job he takes it and he should do.

Football is a fickle business which both himself and a large section of our fans have found out this season.

[jlup1980]

The whole thing smells a bit fishy from VK's side. It stinks the place out actually.

These rumours don't just appear from nowhere, the same as with players. Club representatives and agents will have been talking in the background for a while, putting feelers out to see who's head pops above the parapet. It started with Brighton a few weeks ago and now Bayern. He wants out, simple as that, and he's searching for his next partner. I thought he had more integrity than that.

He's had his team scurrying away in the background, trying to unearth his next job, whilst we were in the middle of a relegation battle. That doesn't sit right with me at all. I'm afraid Alan Pace is going to have his heart broken soon, when the most beautiful girl in town runs off with a bigger sugar daddy.

[IanMcL]

So you evaluate the success of 18 and 19 yo signings on the basis of one season. Absolutely weird and no point discussing further tbh.

The evaluation should be of the collective, not individual young lads. Did Burnley FC assemble a squad that had a prayer in the Prem snd did the manager maximise the player assets at his disposal?
Finally, did the club/squad/ team adapt and improve during the season?

[JohnMcGreal]

If we put this in real world terms it sounds like Kompany has applied for a job and he's been informed that he's shortlisted for an interview.

[Pickles]

Pleased to have a scan at this thread this morning and to see a few more people, like myself last night, not blinkered as to how and why other clubs may see Kompany as an attractive option.

[bumba]

Well the Trafford rumours have been in the papers a bit like this Kompany rumour we’re discussing.

I imagine it's his agent but even if those clubs are interested it's to go there as 2nd choice, no chance he replaces Pope or Allison

[CrosspoolClarets]

The concern I have isn’t him leaving for Bayern, it is:

1. Bayern have genuinely shortlisted him, so if they do, others will too, so he will be off soon, Sacha was right. It was a misjudgement from ALK getting someone it was unrealistic to keep.
2. He must have his agents bandying his name about, which implies he’s only dating us for a quick shag then is off to a better option. Hence why he never answers questions on his future.
3. He has remade the whole club in his image and we use his analytics company too.
4. He has bought a load of overseas players who had never heard of Burnley probably and would be downing tools like a stampede if he leaves.
5. We now have only 2 years of parachute payments then we are back the same as everyone else in this league and the 15 year adventure will probably be over.

The one thing that gives me hope is that many of these players have value and we could earn a fair bit by trading them and reinvesting.

[Goliath]

Only because he said it was!

Well no. There was a realm of talent being signed from across Europe in every transfer window. We've had a current Bundesliga winner and Champion League finalist play for us in the last 2 years. It was less successful as a strategy this season and pretty naive but we've still got a heap of young talented players.
It might actually be good for some of then to play for a more orthodox manager who coaches the traditional basics a bit better. For example I imagine Esteve would absolutely thrive under a Moyes/Dyche type.

Ths problem with that is how to keep the energy up within the fan base and players.

[ArmchairDetective]

Players and managers are always linked with other clubs. The question is, who's got something to gain from telling the media.

[Murger]

Whether he goes to Bayern or not is irrelevant. What is relevant though, is that he seems to be whoring himself about. First Brighton, then Brentford and now Munich. He’s obviously not in it for the long term.