Kompany to Bayern Munich?

[kentonclaret]

I don't why anyone is surprised at this. There is no loyalty in football any more and money talks more than anything these days. I can't see anyone in their right mind turning down Bayern to stay at Burnley, the big clubs don't give a toss about smaller clubs and good managers will always be poached by them.

And yes it is sour grapes but I hope Bayern crash and burn next season like we did last season.

Loyalty and football managers are not really words that should be used in the same sentence. McKenna has guided Ipswich from League One to the Premier League but it doesn’t follow that he will be hanging around to guide them through their breakthrough season to enable them to become an established club. He is already favourite or second favourite for several top jobs. Basically football managers are primarily focused on furthering their own careers.
I never saw what Kompany had to gain from spending another season managing in the Championship and always thought it unlikely. As far as Kompany is concerned it’s a case of been there, done that and got the T-Shirt. If he stayed and we came back up he would have confirmed himself as a good Championship manager. But if he failed he would be labelled as a one trick pony who got lucky first time in a weak division following on from a disastrous PL campaign. Kompany and his advisors were busy sniffing out the next opportunity to further his career and seem to have hit the jackpot with the Bayern role.
Now we all move on.

[AGENT_CLARET]

I'm starting to think would he have gone to Bayern if he had kept us up ?
Surely he couldn't have wanted us relegated could he ?

Not wanting us relegated no, but 100% Him, his staff and the player's were distracted and that didn't help

[TheOriginalLongsider]

I think if you are offered the job at one of the top sides in Europe, then you’re going to take it. I don’t blame him. If it was someone like Brighton it would be a different matter. But it will disrupt our club massively. Most of those players came to Burnley because Kompany was here.

[Jamesy]

Trafford was a Euro U21 winner, now a full England squad member and actually made a lot of very decent saves despite playing behind a team leaking chances for fun. He’ll be sold for a profit.

Amdouni going to the Euros too. Money not spunked at all.

Tresor I agree but clearly some talent there to work on.

Koleosho, Odobert, Berge, O’Shea (poor start but eventually), top scorer JBL - all signed for peanuts. Assignon great potential.

Last season Muric, Annas, Benson, Tella, Maatsen, THB, Ekdal, AAD, Vitinho. All very cheap. Team storms the Championship.

Recruitment has been very good on the whole with a handful potentially wrong but no club gets every signing right.

Recruitment hasn’t been good. We have a massively bloated squad and got relegated.

[AGENT_CLARET]

The quicker we part Kompany the better

[Rick_Muller]

I'm starting to think would he have gone to Bayern if he had kept us up ?
Surely he couldn't have wanted us relegated could he ?

it does beg the question "how long has he known he was going to leave?"

[Sozturf7]

If he reads this board is it surprising.

[RetroClaret]

Best possible outcome. Get some compo, saves the club sacking him 10 games in next season at a loss, if he failed to put the wheels back on. It's early enough that the replacement still has a full pre season to get organised.

We can go back to being Burnley FC and not overshadowed by a big name. Good luck to VK

[AGENT_CLARET]

Recruitment hasn’t been good. We have a massively bloated squad and got relegated.

From the Premier league with kids playing against men and lack of experience at the top level, but that doesn't equal bad recruitment these player's will benefit from playing a season or two at championship level and will become stronger and wiser with patience and a good leader

[CrosspoolClarets]

As I put on the other thread, a very good chance that we get our necessary sales and some incomings from this move, Bayern will have some top young talent they could loan us.

Vital to keep things friendly. I hope ALK and JJ are wise enough to see this. He won’t suddenly dislike our club, he knows the infrastructure is good for player development, he could easily send some loanees our way like Maatsen and Tella last time.

[bfcjg]

Auf Wiedersehen, prick.

[burnley007]

Is anyone else slowly becoming an expert on all young European managers?

[Paul Waine]

it does beg the question "how long has he known he was going to leave?"

When was it Bayern started looking beyond their first and second and third choices as their new manager?

[Rick_Muller]

As I put on the other thread, a very good chance that we get our necessary sales and some incomings from this move, Bayern will have some top young talent they could loan us.

Vital to keep things friendly. I hope ALK and JJ are wise enough to see this. He won’t suddenly dislike our club, he knows the infrastructure is good for player development, he could easily send some loanees our way like Maatsen and Tella last time.

valid point about Alan keeping it friendly... for us fans though - he can feck off

[Neil]

From the Premier league with kids playing against men and lack of experience at the top level, but that doesn't equal bad recruitment these player's will benefit from playing a season or two at championship level and will become stronger and wiser with patience and a good leader

Priority one when you get to the Premier league is to stay in the Premier league.

Should not have flooded the squad with young players, should have gotten a blend of youth and experience.

If it's a long term project, you do it gradually not all in one hit.

They aren't all necessarily bad players but that's what makes it bad recruitment.

[Jamesy]

From the Premier league with kids playing against men and lack of experience at the top level, but that doesn't equal bad recruitment these player's will benefit from playing a season or two at championship level and will become stronger and wiser with patience and a good leader

We will find out then over the next season or so if it was bad recruitment. Don’t forget a lot of money was spent bringing these players to the club.
If they don’t have prolonged periods in the team or we don’t sell them on at a profit or at least break even then it will have been bad recruitment, simple as that.

[Boss Hogg]

If he reads this board is it surprising.

Paid millions a year and delivered a car crash of a season but off because a few people on a message board said a few nasty things .

[Aclaret]

All I'm hearing is that VK is in advanced talks with Bayern, what if these talks break down ?

[Neil]

All I'm hearing is that VK is in advanced talks with Bayern, what if these talks break down ?

Pace gets his girlfriend back and buys her a shiny new porsche to keep her?

[burnleymik]

All I'm hearing is that VK is in advanced talks with Bayern, what if these talks break down ?

It's reported that VK has agreedterms with Bayern. The last bit is supposedly to work out the compensation. Although that has already been reported too, although without confirmation, of a sum of £20m.

[Darthlaw]

it does beg the question "how long has he known he was going to leave?"

Considering Bayern have approached everyone under the sun and been rejected by plans A-J (including the chap they unceremoniously hoofed in February, who they asked to stay on) I think Kompany probably only found out quite recently.

I reckon it is more likely, however, that he thought he might be off to Brighton before the season ended.

[AGENT_CLARET]

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[Neil]

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Interesting!

[Neil]

Oh, I thought it meant last December, whys the date in the future

[quoonbeatz]

I'm starting to think would he have gone to Bayern if he had kept us up ?

Yes he 100% would have and so would any other manager in his shoes.

[Wembley09]

So surprised Bayern want him, I could understand if it was straight after his first season with us, but not now.

He got a woeful 24 points from 38 games in the Premier League (featuring a record breaking Sheff Utd with their awful defence) might have been fewer if a better team than Sheff Utd were there instead.

We've had such a unbalanced squad full of attacking wingers. The unbalance has shown over the season in both boxes.. constanly struggling to score and letting in so many.

9 goals we scored were against the open shop that is Sheff Utd.

Yes, we officially had the 3rd worst defensive record, but we had the record breaking Sheff Utd & gung-ho 'little' Luton this season.

78 goals is alot to let in, like 24 points is no where near enough to keep any Premier League team up.
It's not like he didn't have a big budget to spend, more than Sean Dyche got in any single season.

The last time we let in so many was 82 goals under Coyle/Laws (although we still got more points that season) I know Dyche always kept us structured/organised. I think the season we went down under Dyche/Jackson we still only let in just over 50 goals.

But after a performance like that, Kompany still gets offered the Bayern job.. amazing. But I keep reading that the people Bayern wanted rejected, and Kompany was far from first choice (maybe even desperation?)

I don't blame Kompany for going, nobody in their right mind would turn down Bayern.. especially after a really poor season with their current club.
I'm just more in shock that Bayern wanted him after that woeful debut season in the English top flight.

[Silkyskills1]

Is anyone else slowly becoming an expert on all young European managers?

I think there is definetly one.

[AGENT_CLARET]

So surprised Bayern want him, I could understand if it was straight after his first season with us, but not now.

He got a woeful 24 points from 38 games in the Premier League (featuring a record breaking Sheff Utd with their awful defence) might have been fewer if a better team than Sheff Utd were there instead.

We've had such a unbalanced squad full of attacking wingers. The unbalance has shown over the season in both boxes.. constanly struggling to score and letting in so many.

9 goals we scored were against the open shop that is Sheff Utd.

Yes, we officially had the 3rd worst defensive record, but we had the record breaking Sheff Utd & gung-ho 'little' Luton this season.

78 goals is alot to let in, like 24 points is no where near enough to keep any Premier League team up.
It's not like he didn't have a big budget to spend, more than Sean Dyche got in any single season.

The last time we let in so many was 82 goals under Coyle/Laws (although we still got more points that season) I know Dyche always kept us structured/organised. I think the season we went down under Dyche/Jackson we still only let in just over 50 goals.

But after a performance like that, Kompany still gets offered the Bayern job.. amazing. But I keep reading that the people Bayern wanted rejected, and Kompany was far from first choice (maybe even desperation?)

I don't blame Kompany for going, nobody in their right mind would turn down Bayern.. especially after a really poor season with their current club.
I'm just more in shock that Bayern wanted him after that woeful debut season in the English top flight.

It's s not good hiding your feelings Wembley09

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

So surprised Bayern want him, I could understand if it was straight after his first season with us, but not now.

He got a woeful 24 points from 38 games in the Premier League (featuring a record breaking Sheff Utd with their awful defence) might have been fewer if a better team than Sheff Utd were there instead.

We've had such a unbalanced squad full of attacking wingers. The unbalance has shown over the season in both boxes.. constanly struggling to score and letting in so many.

9 goals we scored were against the open shop that is Sheff Utd.

Yes, we officially had the 3rd worst defensive record, but we had the record breaking Sheff Utd & gung-ho 'little' Luton this season.

78 goals is alot to let in, like 24 points is no where near enough to keep any Premier League team up.
It's not like he didn't have a big budget to spend, more than Sean Dyche got in any single season.

The last time we let in so many was 82 goals under Coyle/Laws (although we still got more points that season) I know Dyche always kept us structured/organised. I think the season we went down under Dyche/Jackson we still only let in just over 50 goals.

But after a performance like that, Kompany still gets offered the Bayern job.. amazing. But I keep reading that the people Bayern wanted rejected, and Kompany was far from first choice (maybe even desperation?)

I don't blame Kompany for going, nobody in their right mind would turn down Bayern.. especially after a really poor season with their current club.
I'm just more in shock that Bayern wanted him after that woeful debut season in the English top flight.

It’s bloody hilarious, Alan needs to be careful it doesn’t break down because I don’t think fans will want him back now.

Take the compo and run.

Need an experienced manager to comb through the squad and whittle down all the excess.

Gets Alan out of jail with his silly long contract extension too.

Anything north of £15m compo and he should be gone, the sooner the better really before they get buyers remorse.

[Steddyman]

This has got to be the perfect exit from Burnley's perspective.

Not only do we get a wod of cash for him going but if he comes in for any of our players, we get to charge them top dollar. Hell, he can have Trafford for £50m.

[Clovius Boofus]

Still reeling from this and the shock GE news yesterday.

As someone who wanted to rid since November/December i do have mixed feelings but can't deny this is the worst timing and confirms he probably didn't give a toss about us this season and just wanted to showcase himself.

Good riddance frankly and let's put this whole nightmare behind us.

Showcasing himself by winning 5 games all season? Don't be silly. I bet he's as surprised as we are that a big club like Bayern Munich have come in for him.

Anyway, it's funny how those on here who wanted rid of him are now shouting the most, when after all, this is the best outcome for you. We have his expensive long term contract off the books, also have some compo and plenty of time to find the right replacement before we kick on. UTC.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

It is weird how some wanted him gone before Christmas, have moaned about him for the majority of the season and are now angry he is going.

I'll be consistent, I'm quite relieved him and his bloated backroom staff are leaving, it was always a worry that the idea was a safety in numbers approach that if it went badly wrong we couldn't afford to pay them all off !

[IanMcL]

Evidently, Pace is as barmy as we thought, about football. Bellamy being touted as a manager! We are doomed.

[Shaggy]

I've seen your posts over the last few seasons continually criticising our last 2 managers at every opportunity.

If Kompany has indeed left who would be your choice to replace him, just one name will suffice.

I didn’t criticise Kompany in the championship when we were winning, just last season on our worst ever season statistically. That’s fair don’t you think?

I could give you several names but I’ll plump for mark robins.
Done a good job in difficult circumstances at Coventry and should be in the cup final really

[bumba]

If he reads this board is it surprising.

If he's enough time on his hands to read this board then it'd explain how much of a failure the season has been

[Clovius Boofus]

Let's not forget, we would have potted him if we had a poor start. I reckon he only had until October if things didn't work out. Can't blame him for going for one minute. It's like a Nelson business accountant failing at their job, only for PricewaterhouseCoopers to headhunt them for a top job in New York.

Anyway, this is a gift horse for those who said he shouldn't be given the chance to get us up back, yet some of them are comparing him with Judas. It's nothing like that. The club was approached and gave its permission. And it's Bayern Munich, not a dogshit club half an hour down the road. A massive club that hardly any manager in the world would turn down.

[warksclaret]

PLease not Bellamy . Not being unkind but I believe his life is a wreck, and not the person some players, existing or new, will have belief in

[gandhisflipflop]

Here is a potentially scenario on what could have happened that could have explained bayerns interest. Having read Guardiolas comments last week next season could well be his final season. Bayern want a manager for 12 months, so is it conceivable that pep could have used his contacts in Munich, to recommend VK and told VK that the city job will be his in the season after next?

[Clovius Boofus]

I could give you several names but I’ll plump for mark robins.
Done a good job in difficult circumstances at Coventry and should be in the cup final really

Six poor results and you would be back to your usual form, of that there is no doubt.

[jedi_master]

Here is a potentially scenario on what could have happened that could have explained bayerns interest. Having read Guardiolas comments last week next season could well be his final season. Bayern want a manager for 12 months, so is it conceivable that pep could have used his contacts in Munich, to recommend VK and told VK that the city job will be his in the season after next?

Thought had occurred to me.

[daveisaclaret]

Hard to imagine City planning for the same situation Bayern are in, where all the good managers say no thanks and they have to settle.

[Selby Claret]

People keep referring to the 24 points gained

Let’s not forget that 10 of those were against the teams that came up (and down) with us

VK managed 14 points from 34 games against the 17 established PL teams - it staggers me that he is in the conversation for any job - never mind the one he seems odds on to be appointed for. Good luck to him and Bayern because I think they’re going to need it

[kentonclaret]

PLease not Bellamy . Not being unkind but I believe his life is a wreck, and not the person some players, existing or new, will have belief in

Social media these days usually provides a good barometer as to the feelings and thoughts of players. Upon the departure of Pochettino several Chelsea players posted positive messages thanking him and wishing him well. Pochettino was highly regarded and liked by the players at Chelsea but not by the owner. Be interesting to see if there is any reaction to VK departing.

[Devils_Advocate]

I really hope the first signing Kompany makes for Bayern is Muric as that would send half this board into meltdown if he took him and left us with Trafford

[burnleymik]

Bellamy is struggling to get his own life in order, no way should he be the manager and the responsibility that comes with it.

[kentonclaret]

People keep referring to the 24 points gained

Let’s not forget that 10 of those were against the teams that came up (and down) with us

VK managed 14 points from 34 games against the 17 established PL teams - it staggers me that he is in the conversation for any job - never mind the one he seems odds on to be appointed for. Good luck to him and Bayern because I think they’re going to need it

Reading comments from journalists and pundits alike they were more taken with the style than the substance poor recruitment being blamed for our demise.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

I really hope the first signing Kompany makes for Bayern is Muric as that would send half this board into meltdown if he took him and left us with Trafford

I don't think it would matter as long as our new manager isn't over reliant on possession based football where having a keeper who can play quickly out from the back is integral

[Indecisive]

Realise I'm in the minority but I'll be sad to see Kompany go.

This season has been overwhelmingly frustrating but going into next season, although I saw him leaving a real possibility, I had bought into his approach and did see why what he was hoping to create increased the likelihood of us competing better at a higher level, as oppose to a best case scenario of fleeting visits to the Premier league involving seasons of just pure graft and grind to hopefully just avoid the drop.

However the Kompany era is over and I genuinely can see him going on to have a great management career. He has an intensity and intelligence that I think is missing from a lot of the other top premier league players who have recently stepped into management. Really really would be impossible to blame him for taking this opportunity. I'll look back, particularly on thay first season, very fondly, and I actually wish him well in his career. He's definitely more in the Dyche camp (in terms of past managers I'd remember positively and always give a clap to) , as opposed to the Coyle camp (to me he genuinely did stitch us up).

Anyway, football is football. Hope the board make the right choice with the next manager... genuinely have no idea who that should be.

[Rick_Muller]

I’m sad to see him go too.

Reminds me when I was dumped by the most attractive girl at college, I didn’t want her to go either but finding out she couldn’t suck an apple through a hosepipe after promising so much at first it was refreshing to find someone who could.

[Newcastleclaret93]

This is looking to be an excellent deal all round.

Great cash for a manager that we could quite easily be sacking in 4-5 months.

Time to get a proper manager in and give them 40m. It looks like it is the start of some exciting times ahead