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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Thu May 23, 2024 11:18 am

No to Rooney, Fabregas or any other ‘name’. I don’t think we can afford to be messing around with another experiment.

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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Thu May 23, 2024 11:24 am

Steven Defour could he return to Burnley

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Re: Next manager

Post by DCWat » Thu May 23, 2024 11:25 am

The next manager, and their summer dealings, should tell us a lot in terms of any longer term plan that Pace and Co. actually have.

If we are in the market for other clubs, we will surely be looking for a manager that has a good track record with recruiting and developing younger players - players that we can send to these clubs for first team experience.

Does that mean that we need another ‘name’ to attract these players?

If we go for a steadier hand with Championship pedigree, who recruits experience to aid the younger players, perhaps giving us a better chance at promotion, what does that say for the model that has been talked about?

The two aren’t mutually exclusive, but it doesn’t half narrow down the market if we want something of a half way house.

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Re: Next manager

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu May 23, 2024 11:34 am

Roosterbooster wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:14 am
Kompany came after a very respectable managerial stint at Anderlecht.
Was it? I read his departure was similar to this one - that he could've been potted before leaving as he wasn't meeting the expectations there. However his brand of Pep football wins over his admirers.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Thu May 23, 2024 11:35 am

I hope to god it’s not Bellamy.
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Re: Next manager

Post by beddie » Thu May 23, 2024 11:38 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:24 am
Steven Defour could he return to Burnley
Possibly but not as Manager.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bigdavethemaddog » Thu May 23, 2024 11:52 am

beddie wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:14 am
Micheal Carrick’s been mentioned, comes across well but what’s he actually achieved?
he has just signed a new contract at Boro so no chance of him coming

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Re: Next manager

Post by Woonderbah » Thu May 23, 2024 11:55 am

David Moyes please.. the West Ham one.. not the Sunderland one
Failing that.. Knutsen
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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Thu May 23, 2024 11:55 am

bigdavethemaddog wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:52 am
he has just signed a new contract at Boro so no chance of him coming
He hasn’t

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Re: Next manager

Post by IanMcL » Thu May 23, 2024 12:03 pm

David Moyes remains the standout svailable candidate. He would bring structure and purpose to our young bucks, if they are not already all sold.
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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Thu May 23, 2024 12:08 pm

The board needs to learn from an experienced operator who's seen it all. David Moyes #1 without a shadow of a doubt for me.

If they do go with a new young manager, then they need to get an experienced #2 in or some other experienced football men in senior backroom positions.

Last season was a naive young manager and a naive young (in british footballing terms) board, both needed reigning in at times but non had the nous to.

UTC.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Woonderbah » Thu May 23, 2024 12:16 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:03 pm
David Moyes remains the standout svailable candidate. He would bring structure and purpose to our young bucks, if they are not already all sold.
He had West Ham playing decent winning football with a blend of experience and youth. Many are calling for young up and coming coaches to take over but we need an experienced manager with contacts who can rebuild the scouting network and backroom staff as well as instill confidence in the players with a huge season ahead.. he's just won a European trophy and he's available with no compensation.. I also think AP would welcome someone he can trust
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Re: Next manager

Post by HollandsPies » Thu May 23, 2024 12:17 pm

This nonsense about Cooper spending tons of money ...
Simply untrue - it was the board and the owner's son primarily to blame.
Pace better get a move on as there will be a vacancy at either Leeds or Soton soon.

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Re: Next manager

Post by IanMcL » Thu May 23, 2024 12:18 pm

Woonderbah wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:16 pm
He had West Ham playing decent winning football with a blend of experience and youth. Many are calling for young up and coming coaches to take over but we need an experienced manager with contacts who can rebuild the scouting network and backroom staff as well as instill confidence in the players with a huge season ahead.. he's just won a European trophy and he's available with no compensation.. I also think AP would welcome someone he can trust
Agreed. Moyes won't mess with the club. Like Mr D, he cares about the clubs he manages. He would get Burnley and restore order and belief.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu May 23, 2024 12:19 pm

Absolutely no sentimentality required when choosing the next person at the helm. Cold, calculated decisions need to be made.

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Re: Next manager

Post by IanMcL » Thu May 23, 2024 12:20 pm

Moyes, Moyes, Moyes, Moyes

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Re: Next manager

Post by Whatsupdoc » Thu May 23, 2024 12:23 pm

Solskaer an option for me. I liked his style of football at United and he has experience developing young players. Also has that star name that attracts players

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Thu May 23, 2024 12:33 pm

Didn't realise based on win % terry pashley was our most successful manager.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Fretters » Thu May 23, 2024 12:34 pm

brexit wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:33 pm
Didn't realise based on win % terry pashley was our most successful manager.
Steve Davis had a 100% record too I think!

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu May 23, 2024 12:38 pm

Moyes will not join a Championship club after all that time in the prem. It just won’t happen irrespective of whether he would be the best man for the job or if we offered a massive contract. The guy has earned millions and clearly doesn’t need to be farting around in the Championship with a load of foreign youngsters. It would be like Gordon Ramsay going back to Le Gavroche to work as a sous chef.
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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Thu May 23, 2024 12:45 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:38 pm
Moyes will not join a Championship club after all that time in the prem. It just won’t happen irrespective of whether he would be the best man for the job or if we offered a massive contract. The guy has earned millions and clearly doesn’t need to be farting around in the Championship with a load of foreign youngsters. It would be like Gordon Ramsay going back to Le Gavroche to work as a sous chef.
Or he's earned all those millions, still wants to manage where he won't be undermined and would preferably want to manage near to where his home is?

Not that farfetched is it?
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Re: Next manager

Post by Burtonwoodclaret » Thu May 23, 2024 12:48 pm

Murger wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:35 am
I hope to god it’s not Bellamy.
Why would you say that ? What do you know of Bellamy's involvement with Kompany's decision making ? Could Bellamy have recognised some of VK'S mistakes and perhaps know how to correct them ? Might he have a better relationship with the Squad when not under VK's direction ? He may be jiust the right person to offer both continuity and improvement. I don't have the knowledge of Bellamy in his workplace that you might have so I woukd value your wisdom on this >

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Re: Next manager

Post by tally » Thu May 23, 2024 12:49 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:45 pm
Or he's earned all those millions, still wants to manage where he won't be undermined and would preferably want to manage near to where his home is?

Not that farfetched is it?
No it is'nt not when you put it like that

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Re: Next manager

Post by Fretters » Thu May 23, 2024 12:49 pm

From The Athletic 20 minutes ago:

Craig Bellamy will not be joining Vincent Kompany at Bayern Munich should the German club’s negotiations with Kompany proceed as expected.

Bellamy remains assistant at Burnley and is likely to be a contender for the vacancy at Turf Moor once Kompany’s move to Bayern is confirmed.

Bellamy, 44, has worked alongside Kompany previously at Anderlecht, the two men having played together at Manchester City and formed a close relationship.

go-deeper
GO DEEPER

Why do Bayern Munich want Kompany?

When Kompany took over at Burnley in the summer of 2022 Bellamy went with him to Lancashire as assistant manager and was part of the club’s Championship-winning set-up.

It was thought Bellamy would follow Kompany to Germany once news of Bayern’s interest became public but the Welshman’s preference is stay in the UK and continue his coaching there.

Burnley are negotiating a severance package for Kompany and once that is concluded, there will be a focus on who succeeds the Belgian.

Burnley, relegated from the Premier League, are returning to the Championship after one year back in the top flight.


I thought he'd left, but not according to that.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Thu May 23, 2024 12:51 pm

I really don’t want Bellamy to be our manager.

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Re: Next manager

Post by tally » Thu May 23, 2024 12:51 pm

Me neither

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu May 23, 2024 12:52 pm

Fretters wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:49 pm
From The Athletic 20 minutes ago:

Craig Bellamy will not be joining Vincent Kompany at Bayern Munich should the German club’s negotiations with Kompany proceed as expected.

Bellamy remains assistant at Burnley and is likely to be a contender for the vacancy at Turf Moor once Kompany’s move to Bayern is confirmed.

Bellamy, 44, has worked alongside Kompany previously at Anderlecht, the two men having played together at Manchester City and formed a close relationship.

go-deeper
GO DEEPER

Why do Bayern Munich want Kompany?

When Kompany took over at Burnley in the summer of 2022 Bellamy went with him to Lancashire as assistant manager and was part of the club’s Championship-winning set-up.

It was thought Bellamy would follow Kompany to Germany once news of Bayern’s interest became public but the Welshman’s preference is stay in the UK and continue his coaching there.

Burnley are negotiating a severance package for Kompany and once that is concluded, there will be a focus on who succeeds the Belgian.

Burnley, relegated from the Premier League, are returning to the Championship after one year back in the top flight.


I thought he'd left, but not according to that.
A bad day for the ITKs

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Thu May 23, 2024 12:56 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:52 pm
A bad day for the ITKs
What’s the ‘go deeper’ all about? Has Fretters been looking at dirty sites? :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by Woonderbah » Thu May 23, 2024 1:01 pm

Moyes hasn't had much love of late.. since Sir Alex's glowing endorsement to be his successor he hasn't been afforded any stability.. hounded out of Old Trafford and the London Stadium despite in hindsight comparable records to more glamorous managers.. yes he might not fancy the Championship but if he sees us as a Premier League club playing in the Championship for a season then the stability and trust that comes with managing Burnley might definitely appeal

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Re: Next manager

Post by Clive 1960 » Thu May 23, 2024 1:02 pm

They might offer the job to Bellamy if he wants it and save money on a replacement but we will have to wait and see ..

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Re: Next manager

Post by HahaYeah » Thu May 23, 2024 1:07 pm

The Mail say Bellamy is likely to go with VK.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... rnley.html

Talksport describe a 'tug of war'.

https://talksport.com/football/1892365/ ... y-burnley/

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 23, 2024 1:18 pm

does anyone know what Kompany's record was like at Anderlecht when Bellamy wasn't there with him ?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Roosterbooster » Thu May 23, 2024 1:52 pm

burnleymik wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 10:20 am
Cooper and Moyes, although great managers in their own respective ways, feels like the wrong direction.
Cooper is only 44

He'd be an excellent choice
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Re: Next manager

Post by quoonbeatz » Thu May 23, 2024 2:02 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 1:52 pm
Cooper is only 44
The only thing that springs to mind here is "How?!"

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Re: Next manager

Post by helmclaret » Thu May 23, 2024 2:05 pm

He always looks stoned to me.

He would be my choice.
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Re: Next manager

Post by xxmunkyennuixx » Thu May 23, 2024 2:06 pm

The Bellamy rumours concern me. We should be going for a known managerial entity - Moyes, Cooper, etc. We should be looking to **** the Championship not experimenting with an unknown. Bellamy has enhanced his reputation for me whilst here. He has come across really well and played a substantial role in a great promotion season. But, having him stay as one of our coaches would be preferable.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Ric_C » Thu May 23, 2024 2:12 pm

Moyes would be perfect for us. His style of football is under appreciated.

Don't think he'd want to come though, but it's worth an ask.

Just as an aside, when we played West Ham just after Covid, he walked along the bob Lord from the Jimmy Mac corner and got a really good reception, which he seemed genuinely appreciative of.
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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Thu May 23, 2024 2:12 pm

Murger wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:35 am
I hope to god it’s not Bellamy.
I wouldn’t be so against this - knows the system, staff, players and formula for getting promoted from the champ…

Which other managers being mentioned like Robins and Rosinior do not.

Just posted on another thread but although this couldn’t have come at a better time in the season my big worry is we’re now at the start of a manager search that if Kompany’s appointment is anything to go by could take some time. But also should NOT be rushed.

One thing I’d be fine with is Bellamy being appointed interim manager so that we don’t have to rush anything and make mistakes.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Fretters » Thu May 23, 2024 2:14 pm

Murger wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:56 pm
What’s the ‘go deeper’ all about? Has Fretters been looking at dirty sites? :lol:
Haha!
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Re: Next manager

Post by NickBFC » Thu May 23, 2024 2:16 pm

I would like to keep Bellamy, but not as manager.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Thu May 23, 2024 2:16 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 1:52 pm
Cooper is only 44

He'd be an excellent choice
There’s just something about him I cannot warm to.

He always looks like his face has been slapped or he’s in an abusive relationship or something. He just doesn’t scream ‘leader’ to me.

Will say that with his championship experience and premiere league experience I’d prefer him to all this Robins, Rosinior talk. Definitely.

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Re: Next manager

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Thu May 23, 2024 2:18 pm

Edwards or Cooper for me, both know how to be successful in the championship

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu May 23, 2024 2:22 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 1:52 pm
Cooper is only 44
really tough paper round...?

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Re: Next manager

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu May 23, 2024 2:24 pm

Moyes or Cooper for me

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Re: Next manager

Post by ecc » Thu May 23, 2024 2:30 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 2:05 pm
He always looks stoned to me.

He would be my choice.
LOL

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Re: Next manager

Post by The Shire Claret » Thu May 23, 2024 2:31 pm

John Coleman - Pies and Beer deal might come back then

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Re: Next manager

Post by helmclaret » Thu May 23, 2024 2:31 pm

Haha not because he looks stoned!

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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Thu May 23, 2024 2:31 pm

Sproggy wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 10:53 am
It will be the opposite. There will be a queue of managers ready to snap Mr. Pace's hand off. Favourites to go up, talented squad, parachute payments, chairman that is prepared to invest, Premier League ambitions. Full summer to work with the squad.
Full summer to work with the squad?
They need to replace a full recruitment team, sell god knows how many players, recruit players they want, replace the backroom staff.
Clubs in a mess it's a massive job this summer.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu May 23, 2024 2:34 pm

The thing with Moyes, is we aren't the prettiest lass at Studio 54, but we are, arguably, "Miss Lancashire".

We are very local.

A man might settle for his local Curry House because it means not getting the train to Bradford.......

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Re: Next manager

Post by elwaclaret » Thu May 23, 2024 2:39 pm

It would not surprise me if Moyes really fancied the Burnley job. A club and fan base who appreciate pragmatism… evidenced by the SD years, a young squad to mould and expected challengers for an instant return to the top flight. A chairman that has already showed he backs his manager to the hilt and little chance he would be shipped out for a glamour appointment when successful. All an hour from his family home.
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